wide band selection

[PIMking]

Okay I'm not to computer literate. So I basically need a low cost plug and play wideband. I see the LC1 kit is pretty cost effective but is it plug and play?

I would like something that I just put a new bung on the exhaust put the WBo2 sensor in the hole and run it to the gauge to read my WB read outs. I have been getting confused by

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/manual/LC-1_Manual.pdf

and it seems like alot of work to get the gauge and sensor in the car just to read a/f mixture. any help would be great


Ian

 

[PIMking]

what about this kit? eBay Motors: AEM GAUGE TYPE 6-IN-1 WIDEBAND UEGO CONTROLLER 30-4100 (item 270342149555 end time Feb-15-09 21:45:45 PST)

 

[twdorris]

Please stay away from the AEM sensors. By far, my favorite in terms of reliability and accuracy is the LC-1. Any and all will require *some* amount or wiring changes in your car.

Thomas Dorris

 

[PIMking]

Thanks Thomas.

Now If I just want to monitor the gauge and not plug it into the ecu would it be easy?

what is wrong with the AEM if you dont mind me asking?

 

[twdorris]

Now If I just want to monitor the gauge and not plug it into the ecu would it be easy?

No experience there. Sorry. I've never had a WB gauge in my car.

what is wrong with the AEM if you dont mind me asking?

Too much goofy misinformation from AEM. I don't trust much of anything coming from that sensor because you can't believe the documentation.

Thomas Dorris

 

[snowborder714]

If you get the LC-1 with the XD16 gauge, it's very easy. The gauge requires a tiny bit of wiring I believe and then you connect a plug (looks like a headphone plug) off of the LC-1 to an input for the gauge and you're done.

I recommend the LC-1 as well.

 

[mike96]

I use a tech-edge, they are a little more expensive but it works really good for the price. really simple to wire up only two wires to make it work power and ground, the gage gets its power from the controller, and the sensor just plugs in. if you think you might want to data-log it later you can splice into existing engine sensors or add your own. only downfall's are that almost all of them require a serial port or at least a serial to usb adapter to log with, and there isn't as much commercial software support for them like innovative hardware.

 

[tkelly27]

I think you missed the fact that the guy from ECMlink is telling you he's never had a gauge in his car. You can't watch the gauge and know what you are supposed to change in a tune while you are driving. It's much better to have it hooked into your computer and watch it on a logger than have a gauge that spits out a number without anything else meaning full. What RPM did it happen at, what boost did it happen at? You won't know.

All widebands can be sent into the ECU and into their own gauge.

 

[snowborder714]

I think you missed the fact that the guy from ECMlink is telling you he's never had a gauge in his car. You can't watch the gauge and know what you are supposed to change in a tune while you are driving. It's much better to have it hooked into your computer and watch it on a logger than have a gauge that spits out a number without anything else meaning full. What RPM did it happen at, what boost did it happen at? You won't know.

This is true, but it is nice to have a gauge to check your tune when you don't have a laptop in the car. I rarely drive around with a laptop (unless I'm specifically driving to tune). Yet, I know my tune will change with the weather, so it's nice to know what the ratio is at any point in time.

 

[big_d]

I have the LM-1 from Innovate in my car and I like it so far. Installation was a breeze. I plan on wiring the wideband to the egr-temp pin on my ecu in the spring so I am able to log some values.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuning-engine-management/211140-datalogger-mmcd-wideband-input.html

 

[1bad92awd]

I have the DB gauge kit from Innovate Motorsports and I like mine so far as well. Its a neat kit and was easy to install. Here is a link to what I have.

EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts - Innovate Motorsports DB Gauge Kit: Blue

 

[kahl23]

I used to run a techedge, but it stopped working for no apparent reason, would give really screwy readings that made no sense (super lean when there's soot coming out the exhaust, etc). Tried replacing the sensors and the problem persisted. I'm now upgrading to an LC-1 over the winter, take that for what you will.

 

[oplix]

theres no need to tell people to stay away from AEM sensors. I have the UEGO and it works great.

 

[twdorris]

theres no need to tell people to stay away from AEM sensors. I have the UEGO and it works great.

Well, all I can say is that we've had FAR more customers complaining about AEM gauge values not matching logged values than any other sensor out there, bar none.

Thomas Dorris

 

[oplix]

that could be due to the fact that most people use the AEM gauges and a lot don't install the sensors in the right spot.