Which / What Oil Should I Use? [Merged]

[PieEyedPiper]

I run Schaeffers 5W-50 Race Oil. and this is why

Virgin Analysis of Phos/Zinc and moly - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Higher concentration of oil additives that you WANT, less of the crap you don't want. 5W winter, 50 weight summer, dry starts are no longer, plus my head makes less noise. Also for BB turbos, it made my cast wheel BB30r spool at 4500 rpm. I was hitting full @~4750-4800rpm before I switched.

"Now if these three were the only elements that mattered this may mean something. But since they are not it does not mean anything."
"schaefers Zn/Phos levels are at the point previously stated as corrosive to internals?"

I guess I'm just not understanding what you're basing your decision off of.

 

[JusMX141]

What should i use in the summer?

Brad Penn Racing 10W40/15W40.

What should i use in the winter?

Brad Penn Racing 10W30.

 

[H@xtGSX]

VR1 20-50. I have never noticed any build up unless you leave it in the motor too long and it gets burnt. If you do that, it leaves one hell of a varnishing.

 

[masterwolf420]

ok new at this posting thing,but all my cars run 20-50 full syn in the summer and the same in the winter. that because i live in a hot area and its high altitude. now the truth if you want the best out of your oil you must take in to account where the car is and how that environment will have and effect on your oil.
Things like altitude,common road ,air temps and oil breakdown at temp,as well as its foaming threshold.
When your higher then sea level you have lower boost at same setting but higher chance for heat build up deu to your turbo working harder in the thinner air.
road temp from the sun and other cars on the road makes heat for your car to deal with on top of your motor(this is the cooling part of the oil ). never think that a car will always be moving, it will not . At an idle most mod cars see temp spikes that are not seen but on the best Digital displays.
Air temps and higher or lower altitude( seen as barometric pressure) adds or removes pressure in the cylinder, depending where you are and how your rings are,thus making more heat or less heat. that all needs to come in to play when you pick an oil for your car. not just what every one else uses! yes 99% of the old and wise DSMs use the right oil but do the young ones know why its the right oil? teach the young DSMs the right way not just give the the finial answer
and i am a bit of a nerd so sorry if i sound to in to it all

 

[Calan]

ok new at this posting thing but all my cars run 20-50 full syn in the summer and the same in the winter. but i live in a hot area. now the truth if you want the best out of your oil one must take in to account where the car is.
things like altitude common road and air temps and oil breakdown at what temp as well as its foaming threshold
when your higher then sea level you have lower boost at same setting but higher chance for heat build up
road temp from the sun and other cars on the road makes heat for your car to deal with never think that a DD will always be moving it will not and at an idle stop most mod cars see temp spikes that you cpu allows for
air temps at higher or lower altitude adds or removes pressure and that all need to come in to play when you pic an oil for your car not just what every one else uses yes 99% of the old and wise DSMs use the right oil but why do they and how to teach the young DSMs the right way not just give the the finial answer
and i am a bit of a nerd so sorry if i sound to in to it all

I gave up on trying to decipher the second half that ^ about the third time through.

Please try to use English.

 

[masterwolf420]

Sorry for the slow sounding post. there are many factors that must be looked at when picking an oil for your car. Setup,environment,and random acts of god. Is easy to understand! Look at all factors when picking oil,don't just pick what someone else has used! Yes its works but that not all there is to it! Use your brain and learn why there are deferent oils. Meaning dont just ask to get an answer. Ask to learn, And we as wise men should teach. Not just give some one the answer. Thank you for your time

 

[red_devil]

I'm lost even more

 

[masterwolf420]

ok wow have any of you been to collage for mechanical engineering or metallurgy?
how about thermal dynamics or fluid dynamics?

ok oil acts deferent in el paso tx then in the north.( dumb way to say it sorry. i have to clean my oil three times as much and have to use a thinner high temp oil then others )
tell us where you are,not just what you run so that all factors can be taken in to account.
Is that dumbed down enough so you can get it?

 

[Calan]

It's been a weird day, so maybe it's just me... but I have no idea what you were trying to say in post #456 (the one that was readable) either.

oil acts deferent in el paso tx then in the north

I know what you were getting at in the last post, but just for clarity, oil doesn't act differently based on geography...only at different temperature (and to some extent, pressure). 40* in El Paso is the same as 40* in Montana.

 

[masterwolf420]

thank you and yes the temp is the same but thats why i put in my first post that its the pressure as well. due to cooling of oil not its own pressure. It does not get to 40* here for many days. So all most never have to run, winter oil or winter coolant . So where you are does matter. Only that what your altitude and barometric pressures deal with cooling. and if you can not cool the oil then you have to use thinner oil at higher temps to transfer more heat to the block for cooling.
If you don't know how these factors i am talking about help with cooling, look in pro racing forums about there oil cooing at high altitudes.
sorry i will just drop it. i dont need all this for trying to help.

 

[Calan]

sorry i will just drop it i dont need all this for trying to help

Trying to help is a very good thing; but posting redundant information in a merged thread that is 10 years old, on a topic that has been beaten to death, and with poor grammar... isn't the best way to go about it.

Not trying to sound mean... just some friendly advice.

 

[masterwolf420]

Thank you. This was my first post ever to any forum.sorry!
Yet this is not my first build if you look at my parts list alone it shows i have done most supporting mods to get above 250hp and have not put a big turbo on my car so by DSM forums i am not a dumb newbe!!!
This is my first DSM before this it was 3G eclipse,1G eclipse N/A ,Evox and now the 2G

HOWEVER I DO NOT KNOW IT ALL AND WILL NEVER SAY I DO SO ANY HELP TO MAKE MY POST EASY TO READ I WILL TAKE

As well i have to post ten times before i can do my build journal on here like i wanted.
Thats all i wanted to do in the first place,but we must follow the rules.

 

[LandoAWD]

thats all i wanted to do in the first place,but we must follow the rules

...including those about spelling/grammar. Thanks.

 

[masterwolf420]

so your telling me if make some spelling and grammar mistakes i will get kicked? wow i thought this forum was about cars! yes i will try and fix all miss spellings and gammer errors! but how i speak is how i speak and i am sure we are the U.S!! This is whats so important spelling and grammar? yet i see you long term members acting like they are so much better then others and talk down to them. Thats what this forum is about talking crap to people or is it about cars? i know you are an admin and this message is for DSM not you ......stop talking crap to everyone and just help like this site was made for. As an admin you have the right to correct me just not some young kids that cant understand how internal combustion motors really work.
for my closing argument, any one can read what someone has posted and then use that info but that does not make you smart again this for all DSM.

 

[97-TSi-Hx35]

thank you and yes the temp is the same but thats why i put in my first post that its the pressure as well but it does not get to 40* here for many days. so all most never have to run, winter oil or winter coolant so where you are does matter. only that what is your altitude and barometric pressures as well

sorry i will just drop it i dont need all this for trying to help

viscosity is resistance to flow, only temperature can influence the viscosity of a fluid, not barometric pressure or humidity. I am an A&P not a mechanical engineer (you sir have no formal education, stop giving faulty information out for all to see)

 

[Calan]

so your telling me if make some spelling and grammar mistakes i will get kicked wow i thought this forum was about cars! yes i will try and fix all miss spellings and gammer errors ,but how i speak is how i speak and i am sure we are the U.S !! this is whats so important spelling and grammar? yet i see you long term members acting like they are so much better then others and talk down to them.thats what this forum is about talking crap to people or is it about cars? i know you are an admin and this message is for DSM not you ......stop talking crap to everyone and just help like this site was made for .as an admin you have the right to correct me just not some young kids that cant understand how internal combustion motors really work
and for my closing argument, any one can read what someone has posted and then use that info but that does not make you smart again this for all DSM

First, an attempt at proper grammar shows maturity, attention to detail, and pride in yourself. Posts like yours suggest none of the above, and will for the most part be ignored by many of the more helpful members on this site. I for one, don't have the time or desire to decipher a post that looks like it was typed by an idiot. But maybe that's just me.

Second, correct spelling is important when it comes to searching for information. If everyone had a "who cares" attitude and posted like a bunch of 10 year-olds, we would never be able to find anything.

Third, posts like that ^ show disrespect to your peers and this site.

Fourth, it's in the rules you agreed to when you signed up. Deal with it, or go somewhere else.

 

[LandoAWD]

Your posting is not improving. We ask that you follow our rules...again.

Warnings have been handed out for infractions, and I have other things to attend to. Make sure your next post meets the basic guidelines you agreed to in order to have an account here.

Thanks

 

[Calan]

your not an admin have a nice day

I'm not a mod (not in this sub-forum anyway)...and technically there is only one admin.

I am however a member of the staff, and we all have a responsibility to help maintain the integrity of this site. I was simply trying to give some information and advice to you from a perspective that many of us share. If you don't care to listen to that and try to grasp what I'm telling you, no problem!

You have a nice day also.

 

[masterwolf420]

ok i see where you are getting it i do. so how is your oil cooled?

 

[snowborder714]

No more off topic comments from anyone. Either get back on topic or move on. Warnings/suspensions will be handed out and posts will be deleted from now on. If you have a problem with the site rules, a person (member or staff), a warning, etc. please PM a mod or the site owner (Ludachris).

 

[masterwolf420]

Post #465 is fixed. i will go back and fix all posts to standard. please allow for time and i will update when each post it fixed. thank you for your time.

Update! All my posts where went over again. To look for any errors. i tried to explain my self more in each one. So if you are an admin or calan please feel free to reread and tell me if i still sound like i am 10 years old ?

back to topic: Oil what should be ran in a turbo car?
I say if your a normal car, 20-40 full syn mob1!!! all year unless in cold climate.
and for a turbo dsm with and mods,30-50 for summer and and 20-50 in winter.
if and only if you have a lots of under hood heat all year round run thinner oil 0-40 or 0-30.
Change all oil in turbo cars very 6 months needed or not.

 

[97-TSi-Hx35]

I use Rotella T 15w 40 and a Mitsubishi filter every time I change my oil.

 

[red_devil]

Post #465 is fixed. i will go back and fix all posts to standard. please allow for time and i will update when each post it fixed. thank you for your time.

Update! All my posts where went over again. To look for any errors. i tried to explain my self more in each one. So if you are an admin or calan please feel free to reread and tell me if i still sound like i am 10 years old ?

back to topic: Oil what should be ran in a turbo car?
I say if your a normal car, 20-40 full syn mob1!!! all year unless in cold climate.
and for a turbo dsm with and mods,30-50 for summer and and 20-50 in winter.
if and only if you have a lots of under hood heat all year round run thinner oil 0-40 or 0-30.
Change all oil in turbo cars very 6 months needed or not.

Can you explain why you need to run such a heavy weight oil? All you are doing is causing high oil pressures, poor oil flow at start up, and poor gas mileage.

 

[Alan11]

Post #465 is fixed. i will go back and fix all posts to standard. please allow for time and i will update when each post it fixed. thank you for your time.

Update! All my posts where went over again. To look for any errors. i tried to explain my self more in each one. So if you are an admin or calan please feel free to reread and tell me if i still sound like i am 10 years old ?

back to topic: Oil what should be ran in a turbo car?
I say if your a normal car, 20-40 full syn mob1!!! all year unless in cold climate.
and for a turbo dsm with and mods,30-50 for summer and and 20-50 in winter.
if and only if you have a lots of under hood heat all year round run thinner oil 0-40 or 0-30.
Change all oil in turbo cars very 6 months needed or not.

WTF why do you want to run such a heavy oil?? I live in el paso as well and i have ran Castrol 10w-40 full synthetic for the last 2 years and never had problems. Ive ran this weigh on N/T Dsm's, turbo 1g's my GSX and on my Rx-8.

I change my oil every 2,000-2,500 milles. I never go past 3k miles on an oil change. You should NOT go by Weeks/Months/Years

 

[Calan]

back to topic: Oil what should be ran in a turbo car?
I say if your a normal car, 20-40 full syn mob1!!! all year unless in cold climate.

I assume "syn mob1!!!" means "synthetic Mobil 1".

Just as an FYI, you may want to read this white paper that FP published. Mobil 1 was found to be one of the worst oils for thrust bearing life in a DSM turbo. You may pick up a few other bits of good info from it as well.

if and only if you have a lots of under hood heat all year round run thinner oil 0-40 or 0-30.

Why would you run thinner oil in warmer temps?

Change all oil in turbo cars very 6 months needed or not.

Oil changes should be based on mileage and oil breakdown; not time.