Which BOV? [Merged 3-8] what bov best bov

[Batgirl]

I am looking at replacing my BOV. I was looking at the Greddy XS, but I seem to be seeing people with Greddy problems aplenty. What BOV do you like? Why?

Also, what is a safe PSI for a stock turbo? I hear rumors that anything beyond 14 will raise hell on the engine.

Thanks for your help!
Batgirl

 

[dsmayhem]

Get something that you can recirculate. You can always go vent crazy later once you have the supporting equipment.

 

[90GSXDan]

You send me the amount of money a HKS Bov goes for.....(I dunno how much) and I send you a UICP, a 1G BOV, and the hose clamps?

Save your money dude. I swear....50 gillion BOV questions a day!!!

Ricers want the loud Phsssssht noise.....car enthusiasts want the proper performance.

Pick a side of the fence.

Do you want respect....or do you want to ~sound~ cool? What BOV you have does NOT matter when you dust a Corvette.

Most DSMers that buy Greddy Type-S, TurboXS RFL, HKS, and Tial BOV's do it because it compliments their existing system. Not because it makes the cool loud noise. Well it used to be that way....I guess that statement isn't true anymore, with all the Brian Earl Spilner's running around these days.

I'm sick of answering Newbie threads about this subject.

You have a K&N air filter and want a non-recirculated bov.....how typical.

gsxtacy


Oh, and whats up with being a member since Aug. 02 and this is your FIRST POST?

Which BOV? Obviously Brian Earl Spilner.

You should really learn to keep your mouth shut. You love to generalize everyone as a performance person, while others could like style a little bit more. Let them do what they want with THEIR car and mind your business. He asked a simple question and others are giving him a hand. Now stop flaming and do something productive with your time.

Now getting back on track, I would personally go with the HKS because it could be recirculated and will never leak boost. And when you decide to vent into the atmosphere, you could get some different fittings and get different pitches of sound. Good luck and I hope your happy with your decision!
Dan

 

[Generation1JeY]

Ricers want the loud Phsssssht noise.....car enthusiasts want the proper performance.

No offense dude, but theres is nothing wrong with having a performance bov that sounds good to the consumer. I have a turboxs rfl bov, i love performance, but i also happen to enjoy the cheap thrills when people look at my car because my bov is loud. If i can get a loud bov, that also is fully adjustable to my performance needs, then i will get it. Its not like its a serious performance stereotype, where u get a loud bov and ur ricer, and if u get a quiet, recirculating bov ur performance.

I know u personally have probably driven a dsm that has a vented bov, but i doubt that half the people in this forum that flame it all day, have even tried it and experienced the differences in performance.


EclipseGSX012, i agree with the others saying u should get a recirculating bov, just because if ur not sure how ur car will react its better to be safe than sorry, but if u like having a loud bov that tweaks ur fancy, then go for it, it doesnt make a hell of a difference anyways.

 

[gsxtacy]

I didn't mean it to sound as if anyone who has a different BOV than a 1G is a ricer.

Anyone who goes straight for a HKS SSQ straight after the air filter is a ricer!! j/k

Okay that is clear now.

I understand that people mod their cars differently. You may do the exhaust first, whereas I would do the intake stuff first.

Going with a TurboXS RFL is okay by me....even if you vent without a MAFT. They sound good., really good BTW.

I just wish people wouldn't recommend a newb to get a Aftermarket BOV without first pointing out the disadvantages....because then the Newb buys it, installs it....drives around "sounding cool" but still being stock.....then gets raped by a NA bone stock B16 swapped into a hatch.

Or get this.....You meet a NewB DSMer and they pop the hood and oil is leaking from the valve cover, all the spark plug wires aren't even the same color, the air filter doesn't exist, their exhaust manifold heat shield is gone and they have a $400 BOV all shined up.,
Car may be a pile but damn that BOV sounds cool.

I hope that whoever has these aftermarket bov's I listed are using them to their potential and not just trying to be cool. Car parts are not toys, DSM's are not Newb friendly, and modding a car isn't childs play.

We as experienced DSMers are supposed to guide less experienced people through the upgrade path with testimonials of troubles, and guidance in doing the job right the first time.

Not open recommendation of BOVs based on how easy it is to install and how cool it sounds.

Sorry, about my rant, Everyone should try a 1G BOV before spending hundreds of dollars on a LOUD one though....1G bovs' get the job done on ALL counts.

gsxtacy

 

[Generation1JeY]

except they leak at idle when vented* which is why i got my RFL

I undestand completely what ur saying gsxtasy and i agree with u, but ur post before was a little harsh on aftermarket bovs.

I mean shit i'm not that kind of person that spends 400$ on a bov, when i have a stock one that will do the job almost the same, BUT!, when i'm ordering UICP and i have a choice to put a turboxs flange on it for no extra cost, and only have to spend 175 on the rfl itself, it just makes my life easier, because i want a bov that doesnt sound stock, and i want to vent and not have leaking problems at idle. So one thing leads to another, i wouldnt just buy a rfl bov and the 60$ rfl flange and completely mod my stock ic pipe to just to get something that sounds sexy and doesnt leak, but i would do it if i had the choice when upgrading for not a giant extra cost.

And also i love the sound of the RFL, but if it costed 400$ like some bullshit "Performance" bovs do, i wouldnt have paid for it just because IT DOESNT MATTER THAT MUCH.


But seriously school is starting and i need something to just keep reminding ricer civicers over and over and over that i'm here to show them they aint shit when they try and act hard, pretty soon they will just heard that sound and cringe, that is how effective a sound can be . :laugh:

 

[gsxtacy]

yeah I know....my bad on being harsh.

 

[EclipseGSX012]

You send me the amount of money a HKS Bov goes for.....(I dunno how much) and I send you a UICP, a 1G BOV, and the hose clamps?

Save your money dude. I swear....50 gillion BOV questions a day!!!

Ricers want the loud Phsssssht noise.....car enthusiasts want the proper performance.

Pick a side of the fence.

Do you want respect....or do you want to ~sound~ cool? What BOV you have does NOT matter when you dust a Corvette.

Most DSMers that buy Greddy Type-S, TurboXS RFL, HKS, and Tial BOV's do it because it compliments their existing system. Not because it makes the cool loud noise. Well it used to be that way....I guess that statement isn't true anymore, with all the Brian Earl Spilner's running around these days.

I'm sick of answering Newbie threads about this subject.

You have a K&N air filter and want a non-recirculated bov.....how typical.

gsxtacy


Oh, and whats up with being a member since Aug. 02 and this is your FIRST POST?

Which BOV? Obviously Brian Earl Spilner.

You asking why this is my first post? because i bought the car last friday. If you read my other post i said i'm finally owner of dsm. I was into dsm since i was 17 which is like 3 year and half ago. If u want me to tell you why i didnt get the car before you will understand. About the BOV question yeah it was simple question. Its not like i'm going to make my car rice with the sound of bov... My goal right now is saving up money for 6 bolt swap and making my car monster.... Give me some times because the car i just bought is in shit condition...

No offense dude, but theres is nothing wrong with having a performance bov that sounds good to the consumer. I have a turboxs rfl bov, i love performance, but i also happen to enjoy the cheap thrills when people look at my car because my bov is loud. If i can get a loud bov, that also is fully adjustable to my performance needs, then i will get it. Its not like its a serious performance stereotype, where u get a loud bov and ur ricer, and if u get a quiet, recirculating bov ur performance.

I know u personally have probably driven a dsm that has a vented bov, but i doubt that half the people in this forum that flame it all day, have even tried it and experienced the differences in performance.


EclipseGSX012, i agree with the others saying u should get a recirculating bov, just because if ur not sure how ur car will react its better to be safe than sorry, but if u like having a loud bov that tweaks ur fancy, then go for it, it doesnt make a hell of a difference anyways.

Thank you. Your right ppls have different opionion... I just wanted to know because i heard good things about Tial bov.. so i was wondering if anybody have it on their car and see what they say you kno? Thank you for the opinion!!

Thank you guys

 

[Generation1JeY]

i looked into tial, i mean theyre for mass ammounts of performance all that, but i mean if ur running a little over stock boost pressurs, u dont REALLY need it, thats whats great about bovs theyre not as complicated as other things, they either hold the boos or they dont, any performance bov like rfl and type s will be able to handle whatever pressure u throw at it if u adjust it properly, the only thing with me and tial is theyre 50 bucks more than what i payed for mine, and it will hold my boost pressure with ease and give me a good sound so i love it.

 

[KlowdDragon]

You send me the amount of money a HKS Bov goes for.....(I dunno how much) and I send you a UICP, a 1G BOV, and the hose clamps?

Save your money dude. I swear....50 gillion BOV questions a day!!!

Ricers want the loud Phsssssht noise.....car enthusiasts want the proper performance.

Pick a side of the fence.

Do you want respect....or do you want to ~sound~ cool? What BOV you have does NOT matter when you dust a Corvette.

Most DSMers that buy Greddy Type-S, TurboXS RFL, HKS, and Tial BOV's do it because it compliments their existing system. Not because it makes the cool loud noise. Well it used to be that way....I guess that statement isn't true anymore, with all the Brian Earl Spilner's running around these days.

I'm sick of answering Newbie threads about this subject.

You have a K&N air filter and want a non-recirculated bov.....how typical.

gsxtacy


Oh, and whats up with being a member since Aug. 02 and this is your FIRST POST?

Which BOV? Obviously Brian Earl Spilner.

you rememberd his whole name , thats worse than a huge metal downforce wing on a pinto, your definitly a ricer now

 

[draxus83]

how about SEARCH THE OTHER 5OOO POST ON THIS BOVS THERE WAS A POLL ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO

 

[EclipseGSX012]

how about SEARCH THE OTHER 5OOO POST ON THIS BOVS THERE WAS A POLL ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO

Lol i did and i couldnt find it.. that's why i asked dont worry i do search before i post

 

[VRMAN]

BOV shouldn't be your first mod, this is money poorly spent.

If you are bent on getting one, go with the Blitz DD it is very clean sounding and holds boost very well.

Anyone who says they are into performance (gen1jy) and then buys an RFL is hilarious. That BOV is only rated to hold 18psi, most "performance" oriented people have boost aspirations in the 20s. I will be getting rid of mine soon...

 

[Generation1JeY]

2psi, big deal, i'm not gonna be boosting 20psi anyways #### face ur the one whos hillaroius, ur contradicting urself as u speak, u say bov shouldnt be ur first mod because it doesnt matter, ok then what difference does it make on which one u get as long as it holds boost.

Worry about ur own car u can do whatever the hell u want to it, but theres nothing wrong with getting a bov that sounds sick and holds 18psi.

####ing losers like u dont even make sense, ur sitting there saying it shouldnt be ur first mod, obviously because it doesnt make that big of a deal, ok then, wtf does getting a rfl bov have to do with killing my performance? u think because i like having a fast car i dont like having a bov that sounds good, Dont flatter urself guy, u don't have any right to take the roll of the "extreme performance tuner" who hates the sound of anything that isnt "necessary." Well my loud bov is necessary for me, because appreciating my turbo everytime i hear the sound of it works for me, makes me more aware.

In closing, suck my dick u little bastard, go call someone else out on their "non-performance mods" instead of giving urself high blood pressure on an overrated topic of discussion thats been played out way too much times.

 

[Generation1JeY]

and for someone who talks shit about rfl, nice bov u got there, what is that turboxs? hmmm sleeping with the enemy......

 

[VRMAN]

Wow, and the over-reaction award goes to..... :thumbdown

Calm down man, it readily apparent by your first response that any retort I have will be met with more ignorance so I won't bother making glaring contradicting facts to most of your weak argument.

 

[VRMAN]

and for someone who talks shit about rfl, nice bov u got there, what is that turboxs? hmmm sleeping with the enemy......

Quote:
I will be getting rid of mine soon...

Learn to read jackass, this was the last line of my post.

 

[VRMAN]

, just figured out you are in my city. We can gladly race if you want see "what 2psi difference makes"

You must be part of Team Total Eclipse

 

[Generation1JeY]

whatever i'm done arguing dude, i really dont care what u think, but the fact that i have a 1g and i dont have a body kit pretty much says that i'm not part of the eclipse ricer squad here in san diego, all i see on the streets are 2g N/Ts and guys trying to drive them hard with nothing on them but a catback and a bodykit. Its actually quite pathetic, but me buying a rfl has nothing to do with that buddy.

And it doesnt matter if ur getting rid of it or not, the point is that for talking shit about turboxs u at some point in ur life purchased one of their blow off valves, so ur really not qualified to insult turboxs when u bought one urself.

Calm down man, it readily apparent by your first response that any retort I have will be met with more ignorance so I won't bother making glaring contradicting facts to most of your weak argument.

Who the hell are u talking to? u think by using the word readily wrong and saying retord ur somehow proving a point that i have a weak argument? My argument is ur implying that a person who has a rfl doesnt care about performance, sorry to break ur heart, but having a loud bov means nothing, i bought the rfl because it doesnt leak at idle like my 1g does, is fully adjustable, and because when i ordered my uicp i had a choice to get the flange for it. May not make much sense to a guy like u, but this is infact my first car, and i like knowing its turbo.

 

[VRMAN]

Bwahahaha, yeah I am trying to bowl you over with giant words like "retort" :laugh:

Like I said, calm down dumbass. I didn't say anyone who buys an RFL should die of AIDS, I made two points with no undercurrent implications being made that aren't stated plainly:
1. A BOV shouldn't be your first mod, more important aspects of the car to be addressed
2. Don't preach performance and then say an RFL is the best choice BOV, it isn't.

If you like your RFL, thats fine man, have a ball. But your reasoning for buying it "I like being reminded I have a turbo" is borderline as ricer as the bodykit+exhaust NTs you see around here and despise. They like their bodykits because it reminds them they are driving a "sports compact car"........similar to your thought process.


Join www.sddsm.org to meet up with and discuss anything DSM and San Diego related, no Total Eclipse kooks over there. Although take a ####ing Valum pill before joining, no need to flame at the drop of a hat.

 

[90GSXDan]

Be quiet already, jeez. Let the man do what he wants, when he wants.
Upgrades are upgrades. So it doesnt matter, its one more part scratched off the list.
Why wont anyone get that already? Its like buying a FMIC as your first upgrade.
Now you know you wont need a FMIC when the time comes for an upgraded turbo and such.

Dan

 

[Generation1JeY]

2. Don't preach performance and then say an RFL is the best choice BOV, it isn't.

Unfortionately for ur well rounded insults and arguments i dont say that either, if u scroll up u will see i never once said that a rfl is the best choice. And as a matter of fact, BOVs are more of an opinionated product, because they all do the same thing, and if they all do the same thing what is the point of having so many of them? You saying the rfl isnt the best BOV doesnt mean shit, a bov that holds 18psi and doesnt leak and is fully adjustable for 150$ is the best for the money, bar 1g crushed bov, but that just has originality screaming from it.

Like I said, calm down dumbass. I didn't say anyone who buys an RFL should die of AIDS, I made two points with no undercurrent implications being made that aren't stated plainly:

Calm down? u know besides the many things i've noticed from u in this argument i've noticed ur a great hypocrit. And when the hell did aids get brought into this? Wonderful amounts of metaphors, i can tell ur english teacher must love u a lot.

If you like your RFL, thats fine man, have a ball. But your reasoning for buying it "I like being reminded I have a turbo" is borderline as ricer as the bodykit+exhaust NTs you see around here and despise. They like their bodykits because it reminds them they are driving a "sports compact car"........similar to your thought process.

Borderline ricer? how so because i like having a turbocharged vehicle? i guess loving my first car, and loving the turbo on my first car must make me a ricer.

Wtf do bodykits have to do with reminding the owner theyre driving a sports compact car? u can put bodykits on anything, and bodykits arent a trademark of sports compact cars, putting a bodykit on a compact doesnt even turn it into a "sports" car. On the other hand, Blow of Valves, whether u've realized it or not, ARE trademarks of turbochargers.


It might seem like i'm not making much of an argument, and thats true, because there is no argument here, ur just a wannabe performance drag racer who believes any cosmetic aspects of a car that don't help performance are a waste of time, well for someone who seems to know a lot about bodykits u would know cosmetics are what make cars original and creative, Example: the stock 1g bov that many people have, of course it holds boost fine and is very affordable, but at some point in someones life they might get tired of hearing the sound of the bov that comes stock with their car.

 

[2gGSX]

You two are going to get this thread locked

As for the original question, the BOV's they've mentioned already (1g, the RFL) are probably good enough for the moment. While you're doing this I suggest getting a new UICP as well, since you'll most likely need it anyways. http://www.dsmtuners.com/parts/default.php?manufacturers_id=184 dave brode UICP (cheap) and flanged for a 1g bov.

 

[dsmayhem]

You two are going to get this thread locked

Yep would be best to take it to PMs.

 

[Generation1JeY]

whatever i'm done.

eclipsegsx, order UICP from dejontool and have them put on whatever flange u want for the bov of ur choice, u can buy the bov from them too. Its a lot easier that way u dont have to buy the flange seperate, or install it urself, the uicp comes with it alread on all u gotta do is bolt the bov to it and ur done.

 

[KFT0001]

I bought the rfl because it doesnt leak at idle like my 1g does

It wouldn't leak if it wasn't vented. You're making it sound like there's something inherently wrong with the 1g bov, but that's not the case. It works fine up to a decent amount of boost (I ran up to 18psi on mine before I finally changed it out because my mods grew to let me support 25+ psi).

Anyway, my suggestion for the original poster would be to get the HKS over the TiAL. There's no need to run the TiAL bov on your car yet, and you don't have the mods needed to have it run correctly with it installed.