Where are the FWDs at????

[blcknspo0ln]

but your profile says AWD?

 

[nicknorth11]

^^ Not so for me. I need a better suspension setup NOW. I'm trading power for traction.(goodbye T3/T4...hello ported 14b). My best was 13.6@106 with a 2.45 60'. What's the sense of having 300+hp running mid 13s. I would be less embarrased with 14.0 on a 14b. My goal is to get low 60' times, not high traps....the rest will follow. Im considering new springs. I currently have eibach sportlines, but I might switch those out for the pro-kit (car too low). If anyone knows a good set of springs with a relatively high rear spring rate...let me know.

Oh yea....I already have plans for an LSD, in case you were wondering. No decision on tires yet though.

your poor 60' times are probably caused by a few things. obviously fwd, (peg leg too), good hp (prob. too much boost too early though), tires and you. the best thing you can do to get a better time is to get better tires, a staged boost controller (and turn that puppy down in first and second gears) and practice slipping that clutch. the T3/T4 is a good turbo for fwd's due to the late spool and good output. my friend has one and he starts burnin em off at the top of first and second, probably just like you. a greddy e-01 or any staged boost controller will help you more than a fast spooling turbo like the 14b. imo, you can get MUCH better times via this route than the one you mentioned. good luck either way.
on a side note: FWD's RULE THE HIGHWAY!!!

 

[xcelr8n]

but your profile says AWD?

Click on it, it also states 92 tsi fwd...

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Click on it, it also states 92 tsi fwd...

you tricked me

 

[xcelr8n]

So I take it its fine to drag race with winter tires?

 

[UPGRADED2G]

your poor 60' times are probably caused by a few things. obviously fwd, (peg leg too), good hp (prob. too much boost too early though), tires and you. the best thing you can do to get a better time is to get better tires, a staged boost controller (and turn that puppy down in first and second gears) and practice slipping that clutch. the T3/T4 is a good turbo for fwd's due to the late spool and good output. my friend has one and he starts burnin em off at the top of first and second, probably just like you. a greddy e-01 or any staged boost controller will help you more than a fast spooling turbo like the 14b. imo, you can get MUCH better times via this route than the one you mentioned. good luck either way.
on a side note: FWD's RULE THE HIGHWAY!!!

A few things....ME, ME, ME. You could call me "lead foot tranny breaker". 2005 was my first race season experience. I had about 12 runs total, Most of them in the 14s, about 4 in the 13s and never once under 100mph. Just like you said....I burn them off at the top of first and second. I have read so many FWD drag racing threads and have learned alot (rpm launch, slipping, NLTS, etc), I could only get better. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.

 

[tonster]

Last season I managed to pull a 2.25 60' and ran a 13.2 @ 109ish. I do not think that is too bad considering I have an open dif, using tokico blues and eibach springs, cfdf clutch, and just some summer season tires(bridgestone re750s).

 

[UPGRADED2G]

Last season I managed to pull a 2.25 60' and ran a 13.2 @ 109ish. I do not think that is too bad considering I have an open dif, using tokico blues and eibach springs, cfdf clutch, and just some summer season tires(bridgestone re750s).

Coincedence>> 2.25 was my lowest 60' on street tires. I ran a 13.9 (missed second). I too had an open diff, tokico blue and eibach sportlines. My plans are to run some bfgs on the front( for street and track purposes), but I'm concerned about the weight of my GSX rims (17"), even with an LSD. Not sure if I should do it.

 

[rhamlinii]

This tread is really funny, . I had a 1990 gst w/ stock 14b, an afc, boost controller, and a 255 HP lph fuel pump. Car went 13.6 at 106 @ 15psi w/ shity stock 205/55r16 tires and that was with a 2.07 60ft. I brought that car for 700.00 (needed and ecu to run) and sold it for 2300. Reading this tread makes me think I must have been doing soemthing right or you are doing something wrong. I don't think it's an fwd problum that is holding most of you back, I think it's that fact all of you accept that one girl and that one 12.40 guy just can't drive. If your a guy leaving as hard as I was with slicks, something has to be wrong with you. I like AWD becasue i'll run just about anyone heads up on the street. Not that it's matter much because I don't get traction anyway. I am trying to build a SFWD car or maybe a Radial tire car as soon as I find a nice shell in the area.

 

[girlieracr4g63]

Fwd's are truely more of a challenge than awd. Coming from someone who has both, and believe it or not I love my fwd the most. Good stiff suspension, LSD, weight, slicks and knowing your car and how to drive it is the key. I also truely believe that with fwd there is a happy medium when it comes to power (for the average weekend track racer). I have seen it a million times. A way over powered fwd going no where. Any who keep doing what your doing guys, and keep the fwd alive.

For those who are still wondering if slicks really are worth it. Id say so. This was on my
Big16G.

Reaction .9041
60 ft 1.6947
330ft 5.0987
1/8 ET 7.8458
1/8 MPH 91.80
1/4 ET 12.1447
1/4 MPH 114.22


Wendy

 

[firebirdvert305]

Hey wendy or any other dsm'ers out there who run slicks.....Wut size tire do u run? What rim did u mount them on? Is there any stock rims off a NT DSM or anything like that i can mount a 15" slick on? I see alot of people are using 24.5/8/15 slicks(i dont know how to convert this into regular tire sizes) Would i be able to mount this on any 15" rim that can take a 225 tire?....what are you guys using? Slicks will be my next mod. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[EkTsi]

I Love My 96 Gs-t Over My 91 Tsi

 

[girlieracr4g63]

I run the 8.5x24.5x15 M&H's with skinnies on some weld draglites I picked up from a local Mustang guy.(Little joke after I mounted them. He saw them and said hey...You have them on backwards ) I think there is a pic in my profile. That would be your best bet. Trying to find some off of a mustang person. Not really sure of any others. Sorry I couldnt be more help.


Wendy

 

[98eclipseRS]

Hey wendy or any other dsm'ers out there who run slicks.....Wut size tire do u run? What rim did u mount them on? Is there any stock rims off a NT DSM or anything like that i can mount a 15" slick on? I see alot of people are using 24.5/8/15 slicks(i dont know how to convert this into regular tire sizes) Would i be able to mount this on any 15" rim that can take a 225 tire?....what are you guys using? Slicks will be my next mod. Any help would be appreciated.

I run a 24.5x9.5x13. they are bogart wheels(don't know the exact model there is a pic in my gallery) with spacers and you have to run deep shank lugs but its worth it. If you have stock gs-t brakes they will just fit over them. A 14" rim is the smallest over awd brakes.

 

[98eclipseRS]

This tread is really funny, . I had a 1990 gst w/ stock 14b, an afc, boost controller, and a 255 HP lph fuel pump. Car went 13.6 at 106 @ 15psi w/ shity stock 205/55r16 tires and that was with a 2.07 60ft. I brought that car for 700.00 (needed and ecu to run) and sold it for 2300. Reading this tread makes me think I must have been doing soemthing right or you are doing something wrong. I don't think it's an fwd problum that is holding most of you back, I think it's that fact all of you accept that one girl and that one 12.40 guy just can't drive. If your a guy leaving as hard as I was with slicks, something has to be wrong with you. I like AWD becasue i'll run just about anyone heads up on the street. Not that it's matter much because I don't get traction anyway. I am trying to build a SFWD car or maybe a Radial tire car as soon as I find a nice shell in the area.

All hail the dsm king

 

[project_tsi]

I run Mickey Tomphson 24x8x15" slicks on 15" Aero wheels. I got the wrong backspacing so I have to run a 1/2" spacer to even fit the single piston calipers.

 

[98eclipseRS]

I run Mickey Tomphson 24x8x15" slicks on 15" Aero wheels. I got the wrong backspacing so I have to run a 1/2" spacer to even fit the single piston calipers.

Eh, now you can run a larger slick when your current ones are due for a change . I have to run almost a full inch of spacers on my wheels to clear the single piston caliper. The thing us fwd guys have to do to get traction.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

This tread is really funny, . I had a 1990 gst w/ stock 14b, an afc, boost controller, and a 255 HP lph fuel pump. Car went 13.6 at 106 @ 15psi w/ shity stock 205/55r16 tires and that was with a 2.07 60ft. I brought that car for 700.00 (needed and ecu to run) and sold it for 2300. Reading this tread makes me think I must have been doing soemthing right or you are doing something wrong. I don't think it's an fwd problum that is holding most of you back, I think it's that fact all of you accept that one girl and that one 12.40 guy just can't drive. If your a guy leaving as hard as I was with slicks, something has to be wrong with you. I like AWD becasue i'll run just about anyone heads up on the street. Not that it's matter much because I don't get traction anyway. I am trying to build a SFWD car or maybe a Radial tire car as soon as I find a nice shell in the area.

I'm glad you can, but this thread is about teaching others how to be better at driving FWD dsms.. if you have nothing to add, then don't post.

 

[coltboostin]

23.5x8x14 mounted on steelies. Steelies are not the best for slicks because you will get a much smaller contact patch than if you ran a properly (width) sized rim.

Either way it obviously worked-->10.7@134mph. Consistant 1.80-1.75 60 ft

 

[firebirdvert305]

Hey how much do u guys pay for a pair of slicks? I seen them in summit for about i believe 300/shipped for a pair of fresh new M&H. Now the hard part is to find a pair of rims to mount these on? Anyone have any cheap places to buy rims from?

 

[98eclipseRS]

Hey how much do u guys pay for a pair of slicks? I seen them in summit for about i believe 300/shipped for a pair of fresh new M&H. Now the hard part is to find a pair of rims to mount these on? Anyone have any cheap places to buy rims from?

Well alot of it depends on what size slick you are going to buy, if you want to go the cheap route just go to summit and buy some stell dirt wheels. What project-tsi is running, or what alot of the 4x4 guys run. If you have a bit and I mean a bit of extra cash lying around buy something nicer like welds or bogarts. Obviously the steel rims will be cheaper but they are also heavier which add rotational weight that needs to be powered and they are harder to get in the right offset/size. It really depends on yoru budget but I would think summit is your best bet for slicks/track wheels.

 

[firebirdvert305]

Im looking for a track only slick/rim combo....Only used for the track. What would you guys recommend? I want this setup to be a "bolt up" installation...no spacers or anything like that. Would this be possible?

 

[rhamlinii]

I'm glad you can, but this thread is about teaching others how to be better at driving FWD dsms.. if you have nothing to add, then don't post.

Wow, you really surprized me with that statement. All I read from this entire thred are people posting there times, and crying about traction. You can also find a few that compare traction to power and then blame there E/T to traction or anything else accept the person driving the damn car. The only one who said anything about how to drive and how to setup a car was the girl, who know more about her car then most of you know about your own dicks. Class is in, so pay attention.

 

[rhamlinii]

All hail the dsm king

I'm not the king never said I was, reading this thread is just sad(very funny at the same time). What do you think about some guy that post a 14.0 @ 12x MPH. Or guys that come across to me, bragging about 2.4 60 ft or 2.6 60ft? What do you think about people who have goals to cut 2.0 to 2.2 60ft. My favroite is the people who run 2.0+ on slicks. It's sad, I was expecting alot more information when I started on page 1, now i'm on page 8. I formed my own opinion at this point.

In the spirit of things maybe some people can post how they drive there car, and we can see what works and what don't. Maybe some supension guides to what you have or what people are using, and what setting they run could help everyone out.

 

[nicknorth11]

Reading this tread makes me think I must have been doing soemthing right or you are doing something wrong. I don't think it's an fwd problum that is holding most of you back, I think it's that fact all of you accept that one girl and that one 12.40 guy just can't drive.

i'd like to be the first to say you're a moron! most of us don't run slicks, have lsd, or jack the ass-end of our cars up 6 inches. that's the problem with fwd's. sure, anyone who has a combo or all of these things can run great, but since we don't all have them lay off and stop dissin' the drivers for something that is obviously due to the cars inability to gain traction.
on a side note, i don't plan on hurting my car in any way to achieve a good time, like i've seen many people do. this includes slipping my clutch like crazy, (of course, a little is a must) and putting slicks on and breaking an axle. so my times will always be slower than a maniac driver.