What would be a good size FMIC

[SuzukiRidr326]

hello everyone, i currently just bought a 95 GSX with a built motor and a Big 16G turbo, and i was wondering what a would be the best size FMIC for it, i guess the bigger the FMIC the more pressure drop youll get? Im not sure though, new to the turbo scene, any help would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Jon Blemler

 

[RvlutionMtrsprt]

Jon,
We offer 5 different FMIC kits for your car for this exact reason. You can get by with our 25x7x3 bar and plate core good for 650cfm or 450hp. That complete kit runs $675. If you want a little headroom you can step up to the street/strip setup with a 3.5" thick core vs the 3" thick street core. The street/strip setup runs $725. If you have plans for a big turbo in the future I would just start out with a race setup so you're not doing the work twice and buying parts twice. Feel free to give me a shout if you have any questions.
Jesse

 

[turboglenn]

I have a spearco core that measures 9x18x3, i bought it with my B16g and had picked the core size because it closely matched the airflow needed with some room to spare. I'm still using it on my 57 trim adn it's still pretty effective.

It's the same core use in RRE's "Jumper's FMIC install" I may have one of teh core size numbers off a bit, but i ordered the core from them and built piping for just under 400 bucks total for the mandrel bends, couplers, and core

 

[tkelly27]

"Bigger" is a relative term. It's the flow path that will cause the pessure drop. I've seen double pass intercoolers that were huge and would have huge pressure drop, and single pass top to bottom ones that will have really low pressure drop. There is no "right" intercooler, just ones that are the least comprimise for a given application. Check out the ones from the vendors and talk to them about your goals, they can really help you out, and you can make a decision from there.

 

[asd_gst]

check out ets, talk to tom there

 

[Boosted98gsx]

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That is the best fmic you can fit on a 2g.

 

[dalatinromeo]

Its is one of the best front mounts but DV/DT is kind of on the expensive side. I was going to go that route but ETS is more than enough at a better price.

 

[nfernotalon]

I have an ebay one and it was a huge improvement, I made my own short route piping and couldnt be happier.

 

[No_Skillz]

Search "Ebay FMIC" and browse through the most monstrous thread you can find. Best price to quality ratio you can get.

 

[DSMunknown]

http://www.niseiengineering.com/images/IntercoolerTutorial.swf

 

[Freerevving]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhh


That is scary.... and probably one of the biggest I've seen on a DSM

 

[ETS Tom]

Hey Jon,
Sorry for the slow response! Sizing an intercooler is best done by your future goals, or what airflow level you'll require. For a Big 16G you won't need anything bigger than our Street Intercooler Kit which Jesse mentioned uses a 7" tall and 3" thick core. Pressure drop across the core is relative to backpressure, so a larger free-er flowing core will have less backpressure. It is a relatively common myth that a larger intercooler will slow spool time, but actually the opposite is true for the aforementioned reason. If you have any questions don't hesitate to get a hold of me!

Tom

 

[silver bullit]

Depends what your goal is, turbo, setup. etc.

 

[2gAWDTalon]

I vote ETS!

Do you have any options on the core choice with a DV/DT FMIC?
How do you know it is better than the new Garrett 24X12X4 core w/ sm endtanks?

 

[DSMunknown]

As I have said in this very recent thread, the new Garrett is very tough to beat.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

I vote ETS!

Do you have any options on the core choice with a DV/DT FMIC?
How do you know it is better than the new Garrett 24X12X4 core w/ sm endtanks?

The new Garrett core is much more efficient than the fluid control products core that Albert used(uses) in his cores. It did, however, come out after Albert designed his intercooler endtanks, so he was stuck with a certain core measurements to be used in his kit. I would LOVE to see Albert revise the endtanks to work with the new Garrett core, but with sales down (since everyone is jumping on the china crap flooding the market), he has no ambition to market them anymore.

 

[DSMunknown]

How sad.

 

[Defiant]

That is the best fmic you can fit on a 2g.

Holy crap. Once it comes out of there, your boost will have about as much force as a fairy's fart.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Holy crap. Once it comes out of there, your boost will have about as much force as a fairy's fart.

But will be so dense that it will invert space time

Bernoulli's principle my friend. Pressure(in)*Volume(in) = Pressure (out)* Volume (out)

As long as the core has no leaks, the only thing affected by my core will be velocity, the same amount of air will be there, but it will be denser, due to a temperature decrease.

 

[Defiant]

Yeah, but you have that gargantuan space to fill between the compressor and the intake valves. You won't get enough charge density increase from whatever cooling you think might be going on to compensate for the volume of that big an intercooler.
Bernoulli's isn't the one you'd be wanting to apply here. You'd be hoping for Dalton's law to help you out. However, that's too big a territory for that sheriff.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Funny how with the DVDT I noticed no decrease in intake pressurization times when compared to other stroker motor + 16g setups when I was still on a 16g.