Would a FMIC be a good first upgrade?

[UltraImports]

Originally posted by MaineDSM


Which is on the front of the car. Not the back. You can call it a Sidemount. (Most people do) You can call it a front mount, like I did. Technically I'm right. I may be flouting convention, but I'm right.

Jesus, people. Don't you have anything better to do with your lives?

Damn ricers.

I'm a ricer because I proved you wrong? NO ONE calls a side mount a front mount. Ask ANY company what type of intercooler comes stock on a dsm, they'll tell you a SMIC. There are more sides to a car than the front and back. Technically, you're wrong. My intercooler sits on the SIDE of the engine, not in FRONT. Maybe you had more important things to do other than learn about your car.

Shouldn't you be driving a civic or something?

 

[jaders]

Originally posted by doug

No. Like Larry said, a FMIC is not a good first upgrade-- there are many other things that you need first before you start thinking front mount. Read the upgrade guide on this site or here.

Hey Bcrosby your thinking ass backwards. J/K HEHEHEHE

 

[jaders]

Originally posted by larryd
adding a FMIC to a basically stock car will cause a pressure drop which means your turbo will lag in spooling up.. So answer to your question is NO its not a good idea as a first mod. Check out the tuning guide and follow it if you really wanna do things right

http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/

hEY YOUR FIRST STEP SHOULD BE TO INSTALL THE FUEL PUMP thE 1ST GEN BOV AND THAT DAMN FRONT STRUT BAR YOU WERE CRYING ABOUT.j/K YPU HAVE HAD THE FUEL PUMP SINCE YOUR LAST DSM.YOU NEED TO STOP THINKING ASS BACKWARDS AND START THINKING LIKE YOUR A "DSMER".OH WERES THE LOVE IN THIS ROOM???

 

[bcrosby]

Your just jealous that someone responded to my post, decieving DAN.

 

[spoolinturbo]

I dont see why FMIC would not be bad...ok it can on a "stock" car. If he does free mod and runs max boost...which i did in my 1gen when i was 16 running 20psi. The only reason I blew that car up is because it had 145kmi on it and I drove it to blow it up. I melted a piston to the point of no recognition hahahaha. but he can get a nice MAF, run boost and get a FMIC and be fine. then he can get exhaust, intake, ECU upgrade, then work on fuel manag. bla bla bla...let 'em do what he wants I say...he could do good or bad it depends on the car and how she runs...
jeff
owner of R.I.P.E.
Real Import Performance Engineering

 

[96TSi_Chris]

Originally posted by spoolinturbo
I dont see why FMIC would not be bad...ok it can on a "stock" car. If he does free mod and runs max boost...which i did in my 1gen when i was 16 running 20psi. The only reason I blew that car up is because it had 145kmi on it and I drove it to blow it up. I melted a piston to the point of no recognition hahahaha. but he can get a nice MAF, run boost and get a FMIC and be fine. then he can get exhaust, intake, ECU upgrade, then work on fuel manag. bla bla bla...let 'em do what he wants I say...he could do good or bad it depends on the car and how she runs...
jeff
owner of R.I.P.E.
Real Import Performance Engineering

Exactly, let him do what he wants. LarryD was just answering his question by saying its not a good idea ( i agree) and he obviously doesnt wanna use the proven guides to mod. I like the idea of the one post, buy it and put in the garage for a later day. Id love to have a FMIC waiting for me.

Hopefully you stick w/ your plan of working the exhaust side first, good call.

 

[TSiAWD91]

Ummm did anyone notice on that guys sig that he ran a 13.8@96mph before a FMIC then a 13.7@97 after it?That kinda tells me that there is a VERY negligible power gain,if it all.That quicker time could have been run in better conditions than the 13.8 run.Im not a DSM wiseman by any means,but common sense tells me that a tiny T-25 could not possibly spool hard enough and efficiently enough to fight the pressure drop a FMIC would introduce.Its that simple,and thats what everyone else has been trying to say.

 

[GST_Turbo]

so hey guys i have a question. I have 3" back, injen intake, and UIC piping. Is that enough to get a FMIC?

 

[Ludachris]

You can get a FMIC if you want - but you're likely to gain more power from the mods at each stage when you do them in the order suggested in almost every DSM tuning guide published - ours included. The reason a turbo and FMIC should be the last bolt-ons you purchase, is because there's plenty of power to be gained before you bolt those on, and for less money. Those are the two largest bolt-on purchases you'll make, and they won't give you that much power until you do all the other mods.

There's a reason every major DSM tuner suggests a similar modding path. It's proven, and it works. Besides, why buy a FMIC only to learn that later on down the road, you want more power and may need a larger core? Same goes for a turbo.

You gotto crawl before you can walk - and you gotta walk before you can run. Do things right, don't get sucked up into the trend of big turbos and huge FMICs just because they're cool.

 

[Ludachris]

Originally posted by GST_Turbo
so hey guys i have a question. I have 3" back, injen intake, and UIC piping. Is that enough to get a FMIC?

Look at this page and see where a FMIC shows up on the list:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/2gturbo/stage2power.php

 

[me612]

Just to add my 2 cents too, it sounded like one of the reasons you wanted the kit was so u didn't waste your money buying upper and lower IC piping, just to have to replace it again sometime with a FMIC piping kit. But If you get that FMIC kit that bolts right up to the T25 setup, lets say you want a 16g or a garrett or a hybrid one that is not set up like the t25 is, you will still have to replace that section ofpiping again because the compressor sides outlet will be facing a different way. That's why I'm waiting until I get the money, and I'm buying the full Garrett Turbo setup from AGP AND a FMIC all at once, that way the piping will fit to the turbo that i will eventually have. I hope that made some sort of sense. Because if I got a FMIC kit right now that connected to my b16g, it sure as hell wouldn't fit right up to a t3/t04e. and same, if u get a 20g or something that doesn't exactly like a t25, then you will have to replace some of the piping again anyway... wow that was longer than i wanted to write. good luck tho man