what to do????

[talonstalon]

ok i have a 91 talon tsi
mods
gm maf and translator
560 injectors
255 walbro fuel pump
full exhaust
spark plug wires
hks blow off valve
big 16g
and i goin to get a fmic

and what i wanted to know is what would be the best upgrades...i have $2000 right know and i wanting to get around 400whp... i'm think dsmlink.. and some more boost and i goin to port the exhaust manifold and turbo...
is there any thing else that you be good for the money
i really looking for the bang for the buck
thanks

also i have
a mbc
and a 6 pack racing clutch

 

[BeatupVR4]

what to do????

First learn to use the shift key.

Full exhaust? That's nice that it's full but is it stock or aftermarket? How about size? A 2.5" is good for over 400 hp (crank) and much quieter than a 3".
Plug wires and a BOV are not a mod relevant to this question in any way shape or form.

The link and bigger injectors would be nice considering you can max 550's on a 14B. Get rid of the translator as it is crap and get a 2G or 3G MAF.

400whp is a pipedream of a goal on a 16G. You're probably at about 200-250 depending on boost right now and you're not going to get 150 from strictly more boost. Go to a 20G or 50trim at the bare minimum.

Lastly I would search around and find the 1000's of staged build up threads before starting a new worthless one.

P.S. I'm tired and cranky.

EDIT: Oh god a six-PACK racing clutch??!?!?!? Is that better than a 6-puck?

 

[jjgrizz73]

, 400 is really maxing out a 16g but possible if you basically get everything you can. I'm hoping to get 400 out of mine but I have a lot of other upgrades in trying to do this. You will need a great tune, dsmlink or installing an evo 8 ecu will do the trick. Look for exhaust items, TBE, different 02 housing maybe a atmospheric dump, new exhaust manifold (FP is running a killer xmas sale right now might still be some left). You can change to a maft setup, intake manifolds etc. Theres plenty to do still! If you have the cash...

 

[talonstalon]

2.5 piping
and from what i reading you can get 375hp from the 16g but thats maxed out
so 375 + a really big wing and i should be around like 550 awhp
right?????

 

[c_riggan]

For 2 grand? DSM Link, bigger injectors and a 50 trim turbo. Should run close to your budget, assuming that budget doesnt include the FMIC you said you were getting.

And 375+Big wing for 550AWHP.... Nice sense of humor...

 

[jjgrizz73]

I'd say a 20g before a 50 trim if he wants to buy something else. I love DSMLink but why not evo ecu + FREE EcuFlash? Which means 150 < 600$ Saves some money and opens up some for other mods.

 

[BeatupVR4]

375 whp from a EVO16G has been done but on Dynojet dyno's and strictly on race gas or E85. Plus this is from someone who knows what they are doing and doesn't have to ask questions like you are on some forum, no offense.

Just stick to the tried and true mod paths and keep up on maintenance and your car will reward you. If you want more then search and read and experiment a whole lot and accomplish your goals.

It's taken me years to get to the point where I have a reliable 310whp (Mustang Dyno) pump gas 16G car.

Go for a ride in any actual 300whp car and you will be VERY surprised at how fast 300whp really is. Plus 300hp>400hp in the not breaking stuff all the time department.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Ohh yeah the wing is at least 200 hp alone, put on some NOS stickers and you could get 600.
Ever thought of E 85? A 16G on e85 with 900 or better injectors, more timing, and dsmlink should do the 400 hp trick right..

 

[talonstalon]

thanks c_riggan thats what i goin to do and i have the fmic but i still have to put it on

 

[jrohner]

I have far from "everything" in my car to get a 400+awhp 16g setup. Basically cams, exhaust, ported stock exhaust manifold, FMIC, injectors, and my own EPROM street tuning. I'm sure 450+ would not be hard with a few more things; if I could figure out how to hold a few more than just 22-23psi, almost 450 would be possible with the current setup.

I would think a bullseye 50 trim would be a lot better than a 20g since it's cheaper and you could put the money saved toward something that would help performance. The BEP turbo's are like 700 bucks external gate or 800 something internal gate.

 

[talonstalon]

i have to look into the e-85 alittle more but it sound good but i would got so 1250 injectors for the e-85

 

[jjgrizz73]

If you are making 310 whp on a mustang dyno then you are making more than 310, mustang dynos read lower than others. Plus there has been people who made over 400whp with a EvoIII16g. Anything over 300whp is getting quite quick.

I have far from "everything" in my car to get a 400+awhp 16g setup. Basically cams, exhaust, ported stock exhaust manifold, FMIC, injectors, and my own EPROM street tuning. I'm sure 450+ would not be hard with a few more things; if I could figure out how to hold a few more than just 22-23psi, almost 450 would be possible with the current setup.

I would think a bullseye 50 trim would be a lot better than a 20g since it's cheaper and you could put the money saved toward something that would help performance. The BEP turbo's are like 700 bucks external gate or 800 something internal gate.

You saw them numbers on the mods you have?

 

[jrohner]

You saw them numbers on the mods you have?

Yep.

 

[jjgrizz73]

Wow, well every car is different, I cant wait to get mine dyno'd with a good tune. Like I said I am hoping to bump up to the 400+whp range with my mods.

 

[hiimnotcool]

hmmm...hard to believe. i have more stuff done than that and i'm not even pushing 300 whp. what am i missing in this equation?

 

[Jeff99GS]

hmmm...hard to believe. i have more stuff done than that and i'm not even pushing 300 whp. what am i missing in this equation?

Tuning.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

sod all that save up and get a 2.3 or 2.4 stroker kit that will help make the engine stronger and better!! thats what i would do to much boost is not what you should be looking at!
if you've got 2k$ then ild get the exhaust system full turbo back if possible ild get cams aswell that will pull some power out get dsm link, and a fuel pump, 750cc injectors with a fuel regualtor but you will need gauges to help you with this so you dont ruin or over do anything. 2k is not alot for 400hp your'll get a maximum on 80 ish max if you put it in the right places and get the correct parts and tuning. i like where your aiming but come back down to earth abit . have you thought about how your going to stop aswell? more power means more braking and better brakes are a MUST!!!!!

 

[Defiant]

Go back to the first page of this site, read the Tuning Guide, and then come back.