What I got for $500

[stace]

Ok, I bought a non running 90 awd tsi for $500. This is what I got...

Drive train seems still ok, everything rolls and the suspension looks new.

I new the belt had skipped and the valves were bent, pistons were fine..according to 3 mechanics. But while I was cleaning it up, I found the head had already had the head bolt holes drilled out. So I'm guessing its on it second broken timing belt.

Oh well, I was expecting this anyway.

Now I have the turbo off and I found new problems. I have 2 stock turbo manifolds and 2 14b's...The manifolds all have cracks, one mabye salvagable but I will ###### weld up a tube mani anyway.

Both turbos have cracks running around the outside of the turbine housing, right near the mitsi symble. I assume this is normal. Should I bother using either of these turbos?

I do have 2 chrysler t3 42/48s' and 1 ford turbocoupe t3 a/r60comp, a/r 63turb. they were byproducts of my turbo saturn project. Would any of these garrett turboe's work on a 4g63?

 

[iluvmy4g63]

honestly for get about the cracks for now. i would be looking for a fresh cyl head. and new timming parts. lets get it running first.then worry about some more boost. them turbos will work but buy the time you get oil feed,drains o2 housing and a t-3 manifold you could just buy a new 16g. that will proform better with out a tune compaired to the other turbos.

 

[JusMX141]

I do have 2 chrysler t3 42/48s' and 1 ford turbocoupe t3 a/r60comp, a/r 63turb. they were byproducts of my turbo saturn project. Would any of these garrett turboe's work on a 4g63?

Wouldn't fit the turbine wheel, wouldn't fit the exhaust manifold, wouldn't fit the o2 housing.

You're batting a "0".

 

[stace]

Oh, I'll make my own manifold, and down pipe. custome exhaust...


so do you guys think a turbocoupe turbo will desimate all! or is there some reason mitsi engines cant run gerrat turboes?

 

[iluvmy4g63]

its not that dsm's can't run other turbo's. its just a better idea to just stick with mitsu bolt on turbo at the time.(just my opion) but a 16-g mitsu turbo is more then enough turbo for 65% of the dsmer's out there. i've had my tsi for about 6 years now.and iam just starting to get to the point of realy pushing an FP 18-g to the max on pump 93. but iam not the one to tell you how to spend your $. that is up to you.

 

[delta448]

I do have 2 chrysler t3 42/48s' and 1 ford turbocoupe t3 a/r60comp, a/r 63turb. they were byproducts of my turbo saturn project. Would any of these garrett turboe's work on a 4g63?

The ford turbo sounds interesting... what are the wheel dimensions?

Of the two you have I'd guess the ford to be more appropriate. The Chrysler sounds like it has small and restrictive housings. Granted however I still don't know the specifics of inducer/exducer sizes for the compressors and turbines you've got. What size engine did the ford turbo come off of? Is it from a turbo probe or a t-bird maybe, and have standard bearings?

 

[pj91gsx]

What do you mean the head had been redrilled? Ive never heard of that. You need to get the head shaved and rebuild it. The guides, valves, and valve seals will need to be replaced. I would just say throw the 14b on. If you put a bigger turbo you will have to tune the car to make it run right.

 

[fatherbubble]

Just get the engine running first. Tune it with the 14b. then go from there when your done.

 

[stace]

by redrilled, I mean its a 7bolt head with the headbolts drilled out to fit 6bolt head bolts.

 

[stace]

T3 inducer42mm/ exducer60mm

14b 42.9/57.9

16g(s) 46.8/58.4

t3 ford 60 46.58/60.35

all have about the same 48mm turbine..garretts are heavier

 

[ilikespeeding]

One, dont use the cracked housing. That's just one more problem you're going to have to work around after the car is started. If it's cracked enough, it can affect idle. Look for a 7cm 16G housing. They're pretty cheap these days. Fits right on.

Two, if you're not worried about downtime, go ahead and pull the motor and freshen it up. Rebuild wont be that expensive and you might as well if you're having to redo the timing aswell as pulling the head.The whole process would be a lot easier if the motor is out of the car.

 

[stace]

no, im not worried about down time, this is just a project I picked up. I figured about 2 years before I drive it. I'm pulling the engine anyway.

Thats what I wanted to hear..if a cracked housing will effect my trying to get the engine to start up and run right without mistaking it for a bad sensor. I have the other turbos, and I can biuld the new turbo set-up on the engine as I put the car on the road...I can fab up a cool manifold and down pipe in about a weekend or 2 ,that I know will work..well enough that I can diognos problems to other things other then the turbo set-up.

Its gotto be easier then trying to turbo a saturn.