What cams with Evo III 16G??

[mayhem90GSX]

Please dont rip my head off for asking this if it has been covered too much. I have seen peoples opinions go both ways on this. I am debating on what cams I am going to need. My goal is 400awhp daily driven. I think that the comp 101100's or HKS 264's (maybe 264/272) or the fp1's are going to be the way to go with this turbo. Some people tell me to go 101200's or 272's or fp2's. But I am just here to get everyone's opinion. Maybe some of you wisemen can tell me whats up. Thanks.

 

[Maverick3169]

I have DKS 1 (264/272's) and they did wonders for my setup (E316G). So I guess I would recommend those. Can't beat the price (350.00), heres a link:
http://www.ffwdconnection.com/cams.shtml

 

[yangtech]

I have DKS 1 (264/272's) and they did wonders for my setup (E316G). So I guess I would recommend those. Can't beat the price (350.00), heres a link:
http://www.ffwdconnection.com/cams.shtml

that's a good price...

 

[Spooling99]

the DKS are very good cams for the money, they're made to mirror the HKS you just dont pay for the HKS name. I'd go with those
-ADAM-

 

[mayhem90GSX]

I have seen the DKS cams but havn't heard too much about them. "Maverick3169" did you have to get your cams degreed when or after they were installed. I hear alot of people talk about how HKS, Comp, and FP cams are pretty much perfect and NEED little to no degreeing.

 

[chicagoavenger]

Wow that is a great price I may have to try some of these or at least look for some reviews

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

i like the 101200's by comp for the EVOIII16G. even more so seeing how you want to push this turbo to the max and shoot for that 400hp. best of luck bro.

 

[ShapeGSX]

I've used HKS 264/264, 264/272 and 272/264 over the course of a couple months on my car and I saw absolutely no difference between any of them in terms of airflow with my Evo III 16G.

 

[Maverick3169]

I have seen the DKS cams but havn't heard too much about them. "Maverick3169" did you have to get your cams degreed when or after they were installed. I hear alot of people talk about how HKS, Comp, and FP cams are pretty much perfect and NEED little to no degreeing.

I installed them straight up, no degreeing needed. You can even use your stock valve spring if you have to. I can't say enough about these cams, night and day difference.

 

[TRBOBLU]

Whatever brand you buy, get something equivalent to a 272/272 combo. Buying a 264 camshaft is a waste of money.

 

[ShapeGSX]

Whatever brand you buy, get something equivalent to a 272/272 combo. Buying a 264 camshaft is a waste of money.

Now that I disagree with, especially with a 16G. 264s really wake the car up.

 

[andymoraitis]

I agree wholeheartedly with Shape on this one. 264's will maintain plenty of low end and still give top end breatheability on any turbo that runs in the neighborhood of 600cfm as will the FP1's.

Andy

 

[mayhem90GSX]

So "ShapeGSX" and "andymoraitis", in your opinions the 264's or equvilant's would be my best bet for 400awhp daily driven? I dont know if it makes a difference in your opinions but I will be getting a smim at the same time as the cams. Also does anyone else have any experience with the DKS cams? Thanks to those that reply, I appreciate all opinions.

 

[Slowboy]

i like the 101200's by comp for the EVOIII16G. even more so seeing how you want to push this turbo to the max and shoot for that 400hp. best of luck bro.

+1

Mike Huml

 

[1meanGSX]

I am also considering the HKS 264/264 for my EVO III 16g and was was wondering if it would be better to go to 264/272 and if it would idle any worse than stock. I want some decent cams but dont want to idle like a diesel. Derek

 

[Slowboy]

I am also considering the HKS 264/264 for my EVO III 16g and was was wondering if it would be better to go to 264/272 and if it would idle any worse than stock. I want some decent cams but dont want to idle like a diesel. Derek

If you must go HK$, the 264/264 will idle like a stock car, but only expect 5-6% more pwer than you have now. I ran 264/264 years and years ago and had great luck with them, I just think for the money there are better options now.

Mike Huml

 

[1meanGSX]

Ok , for better options than the HKS 264 and I decent idle what would you reccomend Slowboy.

 

[Slowboy]

Ok , for better options than the HKS 264 and I decent idle what would you reccomend Slowboy.

Comp 101200's idle like stock cams and will always make 8-10% more power even on a stock motor.

From what I know of the FP cams, the FP2's would work well also.

Mike Huml

 

[Black94DSM]

I ran my Evo III with comp 101200's. Idled like stock and pulled to redline. Very good set of cams IMO. Dont go with the smaller version cams, the Evo III will always ask for more.

 

[1meanGSX]

With the Comp 101200 do they drop right in like the HKS and will they work with the stock valvetrain. I think I might have have to check these out, was somewhat set on 264/272 but if the comps perform as good or better.

 

[daren_p]

Comp 101200's idle like stock cams and will always make 8-10% more power even on a stock motor.

From what I know of the FP cams, the FP2's would work well also.

Mike Huml

I am too still undecided on what cams I want, 264/272 or straight up 272's. Im currently running an evoIII but will probably upgrade to a 50 trim next year (I guess well see how long just the cams keep me happy ) My main concern is with emissions, does anyone know what kind of difference the 2 combos make? Also with the larger 272's, 200's, FP2's how much, if any vacuum do you lose?

shapegsx, is there a reason why you didn't try the straight 272's, since you tried all the other combos?

 

[1meanGSX]

Well I am still am not sure about all the cams. I am between 264/272 and Comp 101200's but I read the comp are more top end and lose a chunk of torque which I dont want on my Evo III 16g. I also read that the comps idle very well so I am not sure. ShapeGSX what rpms would you shift at with 264/272 combo and how was torque curve. Also if other guys have the comps chime in on how the the torue is and the difference in spool time. Thanks, Derek

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

101200 cam set will do good with the EVOIII and good with the 50 trim. It will keep the power in a great range. we love them.

 

[Slowboy]

Well I am still am not sure about all the cams. I am between 264/272 and Comp 101200's but I read the comp are more top end and lose a chunk of torque which I dont want on my Evo III 16g. I also read that the comps idle very well so I am not sure. ShapeGSX what rpms would you shift at with 264/272 combo and how was torque curve. Also if other guys have the comps chime in on how the the torue is and the difference in spool time. Thanks, Derek

Just my opinion, please do not take this the wrong way, but if you are worried about the subtle differences in these two sets of cams you mention, you had better be prepared to spend some serious time on the dyno!

90% of the people on here could not tell the difference between 264/264 and the 264/272 combo other than the idle is a little more lumpy. The other 10% have spent some time on the dyno, and can tell you the difference!

With that being said, if we switch from 264/272 to the COMP 101200, we will make 10-20 more WHP on a 400 WHP car from 4500 RPM's and up. (Yes, we did this a year and a half ago)

If we switch 272/272 for the COMP 101200's, we will realize the only thing we did was sacrifice a little bit of idle quality, and spent about $130.00 more money. These cams will make the same amount of power IMO.

Mike Huml

 

[mayhem90GSX]

Well I guess I will probably go with the Comp 101200's and a JM Fab SMIM. What do you guys recommend for valve spring kits? Crower or Manley? I appreciate all the good feeback I'm getting here. Thanks.