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goddamn that front bumper and fenders is what aftermarket body parts manufacturers SHOULD be making, not ugly ass shit. Do you mind if I somewhat copy some of your ideas in the future for my own vehicle? You seem to at least know more about aerodynamics than I could ever.

Can you also tell us how your pcv valve is setup?
 
####in aye! I just JIZZED IN MY PANTS!!

the car looked like an Angry Panda for real ROFL

see you guys on race day!


hey Drew, I think you guys just OWNED every front splitter manufacturers in existence ROFL

aite, peace.
 
KBR said:
####in aye! I just JIZZED IN MY PANTS!!

the car looked like an Angry Panda for real ROFL

see you guys on race day!


hey Drew, I think you guys just OWNED every front splitter manufacturers in existence ROFL

aite, peace.
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... ASM out of Japan has you covered since they are an aftermarket manufacturer and not a professional level race team (I'd expect DTM, Super GT, and ALMS teams to pump out awesome splitters). The whole front bumper + splitter weighs under 5 lbs and produces up to 600lbs of downforce.
It would be awesome if Drew had the funds and time to create a dry carbon version of his bumper, fenders and splitter. :hellyeah:

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Flash said:
... ASM out of Japan has you covered since they are an aftermarket manufacturer and not a professional level race team (I'd expect DTM, Super GT, and ALMS teams to pump out awesome splitters). The whole front bumper + splitter weighs under 5 lbs and produces up to 600lbs of downforce.
It would be awesome if Drew had the funds and time to create a dry carbon version of his bumper, fenders and splitter. :hellyeah:

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DARN!!


well, as we all know Japanese are crazy so they can create a lot of crazy parts that we americans can only drool about.


aite, peace.
 
If I could design outside the rules with a raw DF number in pounds as my intention, any number can be exceeded. What speed is that 600lbs claim for, a lb number is nothing without a speed? Theres so much more to it than that and if I was designing to achieve a number vs weight as my only criteria I could easily exceed a weight and DF number even if the speed was 120mph. None of that was involved in the design process of my splitter setup there was a completely different criteria. Thats why comparisons like this seem a bit silly.
 
Also, a ride height change alone can swing DF equal up and down 600lbs, it's not that high of a DF number at all... a raw number like that means basically nothing anyway. The angle of a flat plane utilizing ground effect which is changing because the car is diving under braking can create that kind of DF at higher speed numbers you make an angle of attack to achieve a DF number but then under dive, suddenly your AOA is too high the car becomes unstable or the DF falls off drastically you make it less aggressive number to avoid pitch sensitivity if you do it RIGHT. Be really careful about the claims of people who sell parts. Not saying it isnt true or anything but I always want to see the data/details. When I design aero parts, I think about these things. Dynamic motion of the car, pitch sensitivity, ride height sensitivity and how all that ties back into the budget for the car. Without all the variables in play, and even with all the variables in play. I never like to draw those kind of comparisons. It's like those arguments about which car platform is better, its best to just enjoy all different cars for their specific strengths/weaknesses.
 
gixxerdrew said:
Also, a ride height change alone can swing DF equal up and down 600lbs, it's not that high of a DF number at all... a raw number like that means basically nothing anyway. The angle of a flat plane utilizing ground effect which is changing because the car is diving under braking can create that kind of DF at higher speed numbers you make an angle of attack to achieve a DF number but then under dive, suddenly your AOA is too high the car becomes unstable or the DF falls off drastically you make it less aggressive number to avoid pitch sensitivity if you do it RIGHT. Be really careful about the claims of people who sell parts. Not saying it isnt true or anything but I always want to see the data/details. When I design aero parts, I think about these things. Dynamic motion of the car, pitch sensitivity, ride height sensitivity and how all that ties back into the budget for the car. Without all the variables in play, and even with all the variables in play. I never like to draw those kind of comparisons. It's like those arguments about which car platform is better, its best to just enjoy all different cars for their specific strengths/weaknesses.
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this man speaks the troof!! :cool:

anywayz, any pix of the rear part of the car?? or should I wait till race day :D


aite, peace.
 
gixxerdrew said:
Also, a ride height change alone can swing DF equal up and down 600lbs, it's not that high of a DF number at all... a raw number like that means basically nothing anyway. The angle of a flat plane utilizing ground effect which is changing because the car is diving under braking can create that kind of DF at higher speed numbers you make an angle of attack to achieve a DF number but then under dive, suddenly your AOA is too high the car becomes unstable or the DF falls off drastically you make it less aggressive number to avoid pitch sensitivity if you do it RIGHT. Be really careful about the claims of people who sell parts. Not saying it isnt true or anything but I always want to see the data/details. When I design aero parts, I think about these things. Dynamic motion of the car, pitch sensitivity, ride height sensitivity and how all that ties back into the budget for the car. Without all the variables in play, and even with all the variables in play. I never like to draw those kind of comparisons. It's like those arguments about which car platform is better, its best to just enjoy all different cars for their specific strengths/weaknesses.
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Relax man, I said up to 600lbs. But still an educational post nonetheless. :)
I remember a Top Gear episode where they entered the Britcar 24h race at Silverstone and they lost the front splitter during the race and they were 2 seconds a lap slower.
 
gixxerdrew said:
Oh man this race is gonna be great. I cant believe what my car has become. haha My humble little DSM.... how things changed over the years.
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well, I guess once this weekends race is over we should store this beast in a controlled, safe location and call it quits :sneaky:


aite, peace.
 
As of this moment. Angry Panda guys are catching up on customers and sleep. David, I kid you not slept in the bed of his truck after going 2 days without sleep, meanwhile I was sleeping in my Supra waiting for Robi to get back.

Nick drove 4 hours to Robispec shop this morning he has not slept in 2 days. There are 4 people working on the car right now. Robi is arriving late tonight to setup/align/balance the car. Crazy days....
 
gixxerdrew said:
As of this moment. Angry Panda guys are catching up on customers and sleep. David, I kid you not slept in the bed of his truck after going 2 days without sleep, meanwhile I was sleeping in my Supra waiting for Robi to get back.

Nick drove 4 hours to Robispec shop this morning he has not slept in 2 days. There are 4 people working on the car right now. Robi is arriving late tonight to setup/align/balance the car. Crazy days....
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whats gonna work??.... TEAMWORK!!


I really wanna give props to our So Cal comrades :hellyeah: NS Fab, Angry Panda & Robispec are doing a heck of a good job with Drew's car ;) cant wait to see the car perform at its best this sunday :cool:



edit:

and Drew, I just paid for Sunday's race :) so we're all good to go!



aite, peace.
 
Yesterday was AWESOME. All expectations of what a FWD car can do were destroyed. Just a quick update because I'm tired as all get out. But suffice to say we won, by a LOT and bested every street AWD and RWD car on the grid save one.
 
Drew, do you have any full-size pics of the car? I would love to have some to download as desktop backgrounds!

The car looks AWESOME! Congratulations on the great finish!

Also, I wish you good luck with your future adventures in Japan! It will be interesting to hear your stories of the time you spend over there!
 
Wow...




I never would have thought your car would do THAT good. I mean I think we all expected you to take home 1st place in a fwd class... and to be a contended with some of the awd and rwd cars. But to also best the awd's and rwd's!! THATS saying something! I guess all that R&D really paid off....as well as decent driving skills I would think.
 
Excellent, a great step forward for DSM'S and front wheel drive. Your victory and Rados in unlimited shows fwd cars can be fast.
 
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