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Beautiful. As I have said before, I can't wait to see everything together. The color is amazing, it will showcase your aero work very nicely!
 
DSM-ZERO said:
I just read the whole thread and Congrats man.....Last night i was watching dyno vids on youtube and came across your videos. Your turbo hits so hard once it spools!!. sooo i did some searching and found your thread ...I love your car i like the fact the you walk a different path and dont cookie cut. Thats the reason why i built my 420a. just some Q's
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Thanks mate!

Yah that turbo is crazy. Its an FP 3582HTA it is nuts when we loaded up the dyno we had to tune up to 18psi at 3200rpms!
What kind of turbo are you running?
I know your hood is custom but were do you get the vents from?
were dose your exhaust exit?

and BIG PROPS to you
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The hood started out as an ebay scoote2 hood and then required I think at least FIFTY hours at the body shop to make it fit right. It would have been less time/effort to build a hood from scratch but it was one of those things where you keep thinking your almost there then find out your not and the saga continues. That hood was a piece of JUNK!

The material was way to thin. David and John did extra layers of fiberglass so it wouldnt fly apart at speed. The orientation and placement of the vents was wrong, the gaps were terrible. The hood was the wrong dimesnsions and overhung the front bumper by like an inch! They changed the whole front bumper construction to match. It was really crazy and I felt bad for the guys. I guess if we hadn't cared about how well it fit things would have been much simpler.
 
Those are some badass looking parts drew! Awesome work again man, can't wait to see it all together!
 
Karlo, hit me up! I'm in SD right now yah!


Also guys check this out. Back in I think it was 08 or 07 when I was still setup for land speed, I got some photos taken for Urban Racer and I never knew when the article was going to come out but it did come out and someone sent me a link just recently.

https://urbanracer.com/articles/anmviewer.asp?a=3589&z=45
 
Dont know yet, I'll update as soon as I know!

Here are some things that are getting done, I cant talk about all of it but some of it. We are focusing on reliability at this point, and repeatability get matt in the seat and get faster with the car from consistancy

Swirl pot
Fuel Pulse damper
Denso Supra pump as a lift pump
twin bosch pumps and ditch the aeromotive setup
relocate fuel cooler
ceramic coatings on various items,
tungsten carbide coating on exhaust manifold
replace head gasket
IC pipes with wiggins clamps
simplified vacume hoses with AN fittings vacume distribtion block. So all air stuff comes off/on the intake mani from a single big fitting
brake prop valve
gas pedal height
C6R delrin shift knob conversion
rear view mirror
gas pedal height (so matt can heel toe)
new plumbing to the steering rack has a small leak
re valving the shocks increasing the spring rates a little
finishing up the paint and body
some dyno tuning and clean up the map
replace scroth 4pt harness with 3" 5 point and lower the seat mount height to keep matt's head out of the cage.

These are all little things but they are all things that were preventing us from moving forward. Sometimes you have to look backwards before you can move forward, right?



right now nick is working his magic on all the wiring in the other half of the car (all the engine bay wiring was finished).
 
gixxerdrew said:
Karlo, hit me up! I'm in SD right now yah!


Also guys check this out. Back in I think it was 08 or 07 when I was still setup for land speed, I got some photos taken for Urban Racer and I never knew when the article was going to come out but it did come out and someone sent me a link just recently.

https://urbanracer.com/articles/anmviewer.asp?a=3589&z=45
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yO Drew! Im here in National City now. I left Long Beach this afternoon around 2:30, then got here in SD by 5:00pm. the TORC meet was pretty kool.. hella TOYOTA's out there! :hellyeah:

anywayz, I'll hit you up in the morning.. maybe I should come and visit the Eclipse.


aite, peace.
 
Drew, when you say you want to focus on reliability why are you willing to try some eBay wiggins clamps? Maybe save a couple bucks? I don't understand how rolling the dice could offer any reliability. It's just not a risk I would want to take. LOL
Why not just go with the original Adel Wiggins clamps?
 
Flash said:
Drew, when you say you want to focus on reliability why are you willing to try some eBay wiggins clamps? Maybe save a couple bucks? I don't understand how rolling the dice could offer any reliability. It's just not a risk I would want to take. LOL
Why not just go with the original Adel Wiggins clamps?
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You got to give me a *little* more credit than that.. Save a couple bucks? I think you mean two thousand bucks? We have a problem. We need a solution. We dont have a budget for wiggins.. Unless youd like to donate $2000 to the cause? So I evaluated several potential options and I dont mean evaluate as in I look up specs on the interweb I mean like I had one of these in our hands for evaluation months ago and we found problems with it already at that time so trust me when I say that we're on top of it.

Thats not to say that we are even at that 100% sure that they will work out, but we have expected failure points, testing modes and contingencies worked out already. Just because something is cheap and on ebay doesnt mean it wont work. It means it has a much higher likelihood of not working. So far, every thing is going as we've predicted. The reason I don't want to post about them until we're done and tested is because of whats gone into getting this far with them. I know the general public wouldn't do and would have reliability problems. and.. We may still have reliability problems with them even then, but as I said I already have contingencies and test plans worked out. We're side stepping cost by dealing with problems by other means we have available. It's that simple, if I had more money I'd be happy to take another course.

When I figure out what mods to do next, I don't just dream the stuff up. I have lots of documents going for risk analysis, pro and cons. I even run track simulations on various modifications and their expected effect in lap times. I run parts through tests on benches and in real world before putting them on the track. I think this stuff through VERY carefully. This wasn't a lapse in judgment, this was careful consideration, testing and planning at work. I actually have a certain expectation of failure, but just because you have a certain expectation of failure doesn't make something useless either. It depends on: timelines to failure, percentage chances of failures, contingency plans in failure, costs of failure and most important, potential reward if successful. Racing is always some kind of a gamble. It's easy to say any risk is a bad risk, but believe me when I say: It's my good friend driving risking his life, my money, my car and my teams success on the line, nobody knows that better than I do. I've had lots of "baller" parts turn out ot be total pieces of crap, and I have also seen crappy ebay parts turn out to be totally fine in spite being pieces of junk in some or many ways. I think its more fair to evaluate the specifics in each situation.

When the dust settles from this and I know up or down if they survive I'll go over the minute details of the clamps, their problems and solutions publicly...
 
I understand now, it was just something that stood out to me on your list and I needed to ask. But I appreciate your openness to answering questions.

Another question: what is the process you go through when you talk about simulations and bench testing?
 
Unfortunately, I can't be that open in answering some questions. So I cant answer a lot about simulations. But I can answer about testing. In the case of plumbing connections, a typical testing mode is pressurize in excess of rating and then test the ranges of motion vibration, etc in excess of expected real world loads for extended periods of time.
 
Can you explain your reasoning behind a tungsten carbide coating on the exhaust manifold? What parts will you have ceramic coated?
 
gixxerdrew said:
Unfortunately, I can't be that open in answering some questions. So I cant answer a lot about simulations. But I can answer about testing. In the case of plumbing connections, a typical testing mode is pressurize in excess of rating and then test the ranges of motion vibration, etc in excess of expected real world loads for extended periods of time.
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Can you share with us how your doing this testing / simulations? Are you doing real world lab style simulations on things or computer modeling?
 
For the harness, go for a 6 point instead of a five point. Most manufacturers are moving away from five points because while they keep you from submarining, they do it by sacrificing the driver's family jewels. Also, when you say you're moving to a 3" setup, do you mean for the shoulder straps or the lap belt? If you're talking about the lap belt, Schroth is leading a move away from them because a 2" lap belt fits much more snugly against your hip bones compared to a 3" lap belt (like 1"-2" tighter).

For those of you that don't know what submarining is:

Schroth Racing Harnesses go down to "Other Tech Documents" and then click on "Explanation of Schroth ASM"
 
Are the clamps you're testing Pegasus clamps? If so, that's definitely a substantial price savings at over 75% cheaper than Wiggins clamps! Hargett QDC have a nice design too but are only 60% cheaper than Wiggins.

I was surprised to find 6 different brands/styles of these clamps out there:
Adel Wiggins Clamshell
Pegasus Clamshell (Adel Wiggins clone, made by OBX)
Accufab
Vibrant Vanjen
Linder Power Systems
Hargett Precision Products Quick Disconnect Coupler (QDC)
 
Flash said:
What engine oil do you run?
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you wont believe what brand of engine oil we've been running for the past 2 yrs ROFL and it worked flawlessly for us.

but then we have a new sponsor on board so yah, we're getting some good stuff this time for FREE :hellyeah:


aite, peace.
 
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