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The Battle of "Eris"

DreamChaser7

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Current Re-Build Wish List Updated: Constantly changing/evolving as I learn.
 

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DreamChaser7

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So this build thread had been basically sitting idle since I joined while I waited to obtain at least enough stuff to get started on her. While I don't have a lot accumulated yet we are starting to get some parts and equipment together. I think I at least have enough now to get the motor pulled, finish gutting the car, prep undercarriage and engine bay, etc. I even have a rotisserie on the way from Eastwood. Need to finish cleaning up garage enough to get to her properly but that's another story. I think I might put "SCRPMNY" on the license plate :hmm:as a large part of my play money is coming from stripping copper off jobs I do, hence the problem getting to her. I will update with some photos eventually. The purpose of this update is to edit the build thread finally introducing her by her proper name, "Eris". I feel it's very fitting for our history together and probably resembles a lot of DSM owner's quandaries throughout their journey. Here is a little background on the original Eris:
While I would like to post another book of an explanation here I won't, you can click the link if you care to learn more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(mythology)

The story of Eris being snubbed and indirectly starting the Trojan War is recorded in the Principia, and is referred to as the Original Snub. The Principia Discordia states that her parents may be as described in Greek legend, or that she may be the daughter of Void. She is the Goddess of Disorder and Being, whereas her sister Aneris (called the equivalent of Harmonia by the Mythics of Harmonia) is the goddess of Order and Non-Being. Their brother is Spirituality.[10]

Discordian Eris is looked upon as a foil to the preoccupation of western philosophy in attempting find order in the chaos of reality, in prescribing order to be synonymous with truth. Discordian Eris teaches us that the only truth is chaos, and that order and disorder are simply temporary filters applied to the lenses we view the chaos through. This is known as the Aneristic Illusion.[11]

In this telling, Eris becomes something of a patron saint of chaotic creation:

I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.[12]

The only time I ever felt order or free in this chaos in which we live was when driving her. Here's to all of us trying to create/build some order. :cool:

 

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Thanks for the explanation. Your car has probably been named with more thought than most of ours. Good luck on the build. With a rotisserie on the way, it sounds serious.
 

DreamChaser7

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So this showed up today...:cool:

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DreamChaser7

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I wasn't going to bother posting an update yet as there really isn't much to show, but then again I've spent the last year trying to make room in my garage for this point to pull the cover off her for the first time in 12 years! Couldn't believe that when I looked at the info from the old electric pics. Got the engine lift, engine stand and rotisserie assembled. My wife didn't think I could make enough room with all the shit I have but I gave her the National Lampoon's quote when I was done, "Hell, there's plenty of room!" LOL. The plan is to be able to keep Eleanor in the garage as much as possible throughout this build. Fingers crossed.
First thing that needed to be done was re-label the electric, at least in the engine bay, as the masking tape was disintegrating or illegible. (Glad I made good notes the first time through). Plan on re-wiring the car even though it is completely intimidating me and the more I read to try and quell that aspect the more my head hurts. From there just continued ripping out more of the interior before I ran out of day.

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DreamChaser7

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No major development yet. Did get most of the remaining interior removed and received a couple of the more exciting purchases for the build to come I thought were worthy to share...Magnus V3 Intake Mani and FF V2 Valve Cover.
 

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Vegas Smith

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Nice, National Lampoons quotes. Should be a good build. You've already got some nice stuff. Sorry if I missed it but what's the goal/plan for the car?
 

DreamChaser7

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Nice, National Lampoons quotes. Should be a good build. You've already got some nice stuff. Sorry if I missed it but what's the goal/plan for the car?
So it’s changed a little bit over the years of research so I’m kind of glad I wasn’t able to start spending money on stuff until I did a lot of reading. Although 22 years is a little excessive but hey we’re here now. Basically just want a nasty street car at this point. I need to drive her again before I get much older. Probably won’t drive it much is the reality so def no DD. Weekend cruises maybe the occasional weekend warrior. Will have 93 in it the majority of the time but will go flex fuel in case she ever wants to drink e85 to show off/dyno/etc. I live in Florida so AC is a must if I want to drive it 9 months out of the year. Planning on trying the new FP ZERO BB turbo with the new Morrison Fab stock replacement headers (tested a little better than the FP mani. and looks awesome). No specific demands on HP but anywhere above 500 would make me really happy. On the fence on the ECU stuff at the moment but that’s a ways off so I have time to do more investigation. Always wanted the ecmlink v3, but seems like more people are moving to Link and Haltech now. I’ve done a fair amount of mechanic work on others cars (never any major motor/tranny/ecu stuff) but nothing to this extent so it’s definitely a learning curve.
 

DreamChaser7

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Finally got the two engine harnesses out of the car. Been dreading this part for a while, but now that I’ve done it don’t know what I was so worried about. Working off the steel floor pan was rather uncomfortable though. Now re-wiring is another story and definitely dreading that, but that a ways off. Now to pull my first motor ever when I can find the time..
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DreamChaser7

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Wow you’ve got it broken down a good ways! Pulling the motor should be a cake walk
Should be. Surely. LOL. Just trying to figure out the best points to connect the chains to at this point. Not finding any great videos detailing this and everything removed mostly except the block and head at this point. Any suggestions? Keep debating myself. I know I want to be on the block somewhere with substantial sized bolts, but how do I do this without the chains pressing/rubbing on the head/valve cover? I do have a load leveler I bought too.
 

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I hooked one side of the load leveler to one of the studs in the front part of the side engine mount, above where the ps pump would be.

The other side is tricky now bc I hooked the intake or throttle body, which you have removed. I wonder about one of the bolt holes where the tranny mount is, but you may need to extend the chain some.
 

DreamChaser7

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I hooked one side of the load leveler to one of the studs in the front part of the side engine mount, above where the ps pump would be.

The other side is tricky now bc I hooked the intake or throttle body, which you have removed. I wonder about one of the bolt holes where the tranny mount is, but you may need to extend the chain some.
Kinda what I was thinking. If you hooked to those weren't you exerting the load on the head then? I was under the impression that was a no no to attach to the aluminum head and make sure whatever I lift from was a large bolt attached to the cast iron block...
 

Dericsh

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The bottom of that driver side mount bracket is bolted to the block, if that makes you feel better about it.

As long as you have a sturdy mounting point with a rather large bolt, it’ll be fine. Imagine the millions of junk yard engines that get removed every year by tying an old seat belt around the exhaust and intake manifolds.
 

DreamChaser7

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The bottom of that driver side mount bracket is bolted to the block, if that makes you feel better about it.

As long as you have a sturdy mounting point with a rather large bolt, it’ll be fine. Imagine the millions of junk yard engines that get removed every year by tying an old seat belt around the exhaust and intake manifolds.
True. I get that. I'm just super paranoid at this point. It took me 22 years to get to this point finally with mine and I know how rare what I have is, so I'm trying to not take any chances. Not sure what I'd do if I messed it up. :coy:
 

DreamChaser7

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Finally got the hood, motor and tranny pulled today. Been having a hard time figuring out where to hook up that I was comfortable with since I’ve torn it down so far there wasn’t much there. Didn’t want to waste time finding extra lengths of chain and what not so finally just said the hell with it and went to harbor freight and got a couple straps. Wasn’t too worried about the oil pan as I have a new one ready. Straps didn’t appear to affect the pan at all though so that was good. One problem I did run into was my hillbilly engineered rolling Jack stands kinda got in the way of the legs for the hoist. As I raised it it wanted to bind on the transaxle mount and the front of the car. Needed to be able to push the hoist back a few more inches but they were interfering. We overcame it though with some tweaking. Hey it’s my first time ever pulling a motor so we learned something. No blood, no broken bones, no one died. Overall I think it was a success for the afternoon.
 

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DreamChaser7

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Oh yah that’s the way I found the rear roller mount. No nut or anything holding the bolt on. Crazy. WTF
 

DreamChaser7

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Removed clutch assembly and flywheel. Got motor mounted on engine stand. Ran into same problem as pulling the motor here with the boom not all the way extended. The two bases of the crane and the stand were fighting for real estate so could only get it within 6 inches of each other. Had the wifey grab one side of the motor and we muscled it the last bit onto the stand. Live and learn. Planned on doing more today but POS back called it quits.
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