t04b(v-trim) Bolt on Discussion

[questhe]

Just FYI, when I started up the car, I cranked it with the plugs pulled. So about 400 RPM.

I held the end of the feed line that goes to the turbo so that it sprayed into the oil fill hole.

I did this to pre-filter the oil so that the turbo would not see any debris -and- to insure that the oil pump was fully primed prior to startup.

When the pump got primed, the flow out of the -4AN hose was unexpectedly strong. I mean I could have painted the top of the garage door from the engine bay.

Now, the flow is directly proportional to the RPMs. Also, the oil pump is a positive displacement type pump. Google on that if you don't know what it means. Picture the oil flow and pressure at 4000 RPM - it is 10x this.

So, you better not have ANY problems draining that oil out of the turbine housing else it has no choice but to blow through the seals and make you a James Bond wannabe.

Another suggestion is to use lighter weight oil. It will reduce pressure through lower viscosity.

 

[nazthug]

by the end of the week i will have 25psi dyno runs, with meth/ water injection...stay tuned

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

by the end of the week i will have 25psi dyno runs, with meth/ water injection...stay tuned

We are ALL anxiously awaiting!!! All we want are relavent details, no excuses on tuning, car's condition, etc. Just, boost, gas, a/f ratio, and whp.

Just curious, but why not just run race gas? Or you trying to see what you can do with everyday gas and water injection?

 

[nazthug]

yup, everyday gas and water/meth injection, so i can know how much i can run on the streets

i may do a race gas run too...still gotta install my exhaust dump as well

 

[RavenX]

Naz you need to try and go for 30psi and race gas

 

[nazthug]

Naz you need to try and go for 30psi and race gas

hhaha..funny, stock head bolts will look like spagetti when its done :laugh:

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

hhaha..funny, stock head bolts will look like spagetti when its done :laugh:

Not if you tune it right.

 

[1029TSG]

All stocked up and ready for 2005. Here's looking at $250,000 in inventory just in turbine housings alone not counting our complete turbos. Look for two new turbine housings and three new compressor covers to be released later this year.

 

[sweet97]

Dave i am the guy who bought a turbo to exhaust manifold gasket and was charged much more for hipping that i was first told. I buy my gaskets from bullseye even though my turbo is from AGP. I need the turbo to 02 housing and the little gasket that the oil return line has between it and the turbo. I was of the understanding that Bullseye was going to send a turbo to 02 a no charge in good faith. I need to know if that ewas true or if I am waiting for nothing. I have an RS60T enroute from AGP and if it did not have that BEEFY Bullseye housing I would not have bought it. Can you help me on these 2 gaskets? Maybe bullseye can pick up the shipping on these until they get the prepaid envelopes from the postal service for things like gaskets so we aren't charged nearky the cost of the gasket for shipping. the first time I ordered a gasket a young lady personally shipped it at a post office to help me out. I love the bullseye turbine, just need help on gaskets that I like also. i like the thick composition gaskets. So can you find out if they are sending me a free gasket or what I need to do to get the 2 I mentioned wiothout oaying so much for such a low weight item, like a few ounces! Sincerely Mark

 

[1029TSG]

Yes, it shipped out already via the USPS like we discussed. You should have it in the next day or two.

 

[sweet97]

Thanks Dave! In my book Bullseye is on it's way to becoming the premier supplier of garrett turbo's and the manufacturer of the finest turbine housing out there for hybrid DSM turbo's. i can't suply feedback for the TO4B-V trim, just for the vendor supplying them, Bullseye! Thanks, Mark

 

[99gst_racer]

David - Any idea how much longer until the return kits are in stock??

PS - Thats a cool pic. I dont think I saw that room when I was there.

 

[1029TSG]

Nick just shipped me 15 today so we should have them Friday or Monday, but they likely wont last long. I'm not sure where all they showed you around but you're welcome back anytime.

 

[99gst_racer]

David - One more question....
Take a look at the last fitting at the bottom of this page....
http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=1291

I was looking for a restrictor fitting to screw in to the turbo where the feed goes. I want to insure that I am no over-oiling my turbo, so I started looking for restrictors. Does that look like this would be benificial for me to stay between 35 and 50 PSI??


EDIT: I called on the restrictor. It is 4AN and 7/16 inverted flare. The restrictor orfice is actually .045". A little too small for these CHRAs.

 

[1029TSG]

I'm not sure what size that fitting is but we recommend around .080, looks like it would do the trick. Not only is it beneficial to stay between 30-50 psi to keep from "foggin" out any tailgaters but to decrease your spool up time as well. The higher the oil pressure the more hydraulic drag you will have on the bearings in the turbo. This increase in hydraulic drag will cause slower than desired spool up so if you feel this may be a problem this $12 fitting might be worth a try.

 

[questhe]

Dave, you got me thinking about a pressure regulator on the feed line.
Even a ball/spring one would regulate better than a restrictor.
Anyone ever hear of such a thing?

 

[1029TSG]

I'm not quite sure if there's a benefit to that or not, it just seems like a more expensive way of doing it. Its not that you need to regulate the pressure just control it or "cap it off" at no higher than 55. There's a happy medium between the performance and the life of the turbo, which is 35-55 psi. The high end of the scale would sacrifice performance, the low end would sacrifice longevity.

 

[boostcreep]

I'm not sure what size that fitting is but we recommend around .080, looks like it would do the trick. Not only is it beneficial to stay between 30-50 psi to keep from "foggin" out any tailgaters but to decrease your spool up time as well. The higher the oil pressure the more hydraulic drag you will have on the bearings in the turbo. This increase in hydraulic drag will cause slower than desired spool up so if you feel this may be a problem this $12 fitting might be worth a try.

Dave,
I haven't check the website, but I'm under the impression that your selling the restrictor. Is this correct?

Emmanuel

 

[boostcreep]

Sorry didnt read far enough.... The restrictor mounts onto the center cartridge or the oil filter housing?

 

[1029TSG]

No we dont sell those yet, the one that was mentioned was a SBR piece.

 

[RavenX]

hhaha..funny, stock head bolts will look like spagetti when its done :laugh:

The head will survive ...i guess i'll be the one whos gonna try this then

 

[boostcreep]

Sorry didnt read far enough.... The restrictor mounts onto the center cartridge or the oil filter housing?

Which one...

 

[nazthug]

All stocked up and ready for 2005. Here's looking at $250,000 in inventory just in turbine housings alone not counting our complete turbos. Look for two new turbine housings and three new compressor covers to be released later this year.

this should prove to people that bullseye is around to stay i hope, and when i build my engine, i will be looking to them for an even bigger turbo

Hey dave....any GT style turbo's coming soon? Ball bearing style?

WHen i build my engine, i want to go with something slightly bigger, but dont want more lag, so i will be going ball bearing...and i also would like it to fit, ...anything that may fit that bill?

 

[Stapl3]

this should prove to people that bullseye is around to stay i hope,

Aside of the fact that Bullseye is no longer a site sponsor. I hope this is not a sign of things to come.

Can't wait to see some #'s on this turbo.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

Aside of the fact that Bullseye is no longer a site sponsor. I hope this is not a sign of things to come.

Can't wait to see some #'s on this turbo.

I just wanted to get something straight. All Bullseye Power supplies are the TURBINE HOUSINGS. Nothing more. They buy Garrett CHRA's, slap on their turbine housing, and call it a day. The CHRA's have worked in tractors/trucks for the past 30+ yrs. But until now, there wasn't a way to bolt a Garrett CHRA up to our manifold. That is until PTE introduced their housing a while back. I don't know what the difference is between the 2 housings, nor do I care.

So....my question is: Are other retailers purchasing these T04B V-trim/H3 CHRA's, and buying the turbine housings from Bullseye? Or are they buying complete turbo assemblies from Bullseye Power and reselling them?

Because many of the PTE items are actually producing decent #'s, when they stay together long enough.