t04b(v-trim) Bolt on Discussion

[SpoOLxExO]

Great!

Except FWD numbers can't help me, espically if you live in Cali, and have to pass smog and such...

Any AWD numbers with this thing yet?

 

[nazthug]

yes, i live in cali, and yes its a fwd, but still will be interesting to see what it does(also my cyl #3 is down 15 points compression compared to the rest)

I will do it on race gas, not 91 octane, and about 20-22psi or so

Hey david: I think i will be needing the high pressure actuator, can we do a trade? I dont think my profec b will let me push to 22psi and hold it there to redline, it seems to fall off if i set it to 17, i get about 14-15 by redline

 

[SpoOLxExO]

Buddy, 10psi difference is the factory service limit.

You have 15psi difference. :thumbdown

I would suggest that you not try to make big numbers with your engine in that condition.


Again, anyone have an AWD and like what this turbo can do?

 

[yo2001]

I never said that. Besides We at NEWENGDSM don't run huge turbo setups at 13 sec ET's
We run 14bs in the 12's and 11's, EVOIII's into the 11's and 20g's into the low 11's.
A whole club that runs killer times on small setups. Thats us.


Well there ya go, you yourself wanted a bigger turbo and went with it, great. You couldn't get the same traps as some of the guys in my club and went to a bigger turbo, super.

, you are making up my life story for me. You think I couldn't do it that's why I went bigger? You clearly don't know me. I ended up going bigger because I had an offer that I couldn't refuse. Put it to you this way, I made money when I sold my 16G for $350.

I'm sure I could dipped into 11's and more trap if it wasn't my first time at the track with C16. In the summer in AL. Try 90% humidity with 80-90 deg weather, it'll slow down the turbo cars. Never got to try in the fall or the winter with lower temp because I ended up swapping the turbo.

Your CLUB does good job and clearly there some people who knows how to make the car reach its limit. However, it doesn't mean every 16G car is going to be running 11's just like your club member. Why are you speaking for your club anyway? How about you?

All the infomation you need is on their website and on this topic.

Sorry, back to the topic.

 

[nazthug]

Buddy, 10psi difference is the factory service limit.

You have 15psi difference. :thumbdown

I would suggest that you not try to make big numbers with your engine in that condition.


Again, anyone have an AWD and like what this turbo can do?

i just went and double checked it again, and now it shows up normal, which is weird, i dont know why

I even did cyl #3 first this time and then again at the end

all around i got about 168-170psi in all 4 with 5 cranks, and with 4 cranks, i got about 165 or so

Also, pushing the gas pedal all the way down helps as well(yes pump was disconected as well as spark)

Oh well, i'll do a test next week again, but as of today, they are all equal

 

[SpoOLxExO]

I wasn't insinuating anything but since you fired it up....

You sound like every other "Super turbo" owner. Excuses, excuses.

"I havent run it yet, I didn't have race gas, I bought a turbo that promised me the world, but I don't have my (Insert nessisary supporting mod here) installed yet. My internal wastegate keeps messing up, even though (Insert company name here) promised me it would work great, blah,Blah,BLAH"

Besides I never went off topic, you were so hurt by then fact I said you couldnt make the same trap as another car.

So, get bent.

I have decided that I don't want this turbo, simply because of the ###s like you that already have em, and the fact that no-one makes real numbers or has any "real" comparisons besides, "It hits harder then my 16g did", and "The top end it crazy"

Well you guys are running 12's at best, no thanks.

Good luck you guys!

 

[SpoOLxExO]

i just went and double checked it again, and now it shows up normal, which is weird, i dont know why

I even did cyl #3 first this time and then again at the end

all around i got about 168-170psi in all 4 with 5 cranks, and with 4 cranks, i got about 165 or so

Also, pushing the gas pedal all the way down helps as well(yes pump was disconected as well as spark)

Oh well, i'll do a test next week again, but as of today, they are all equal

You are supposed to do the test with gas to floor, so glad you found that out.

Very nice! Good luck with your setup and others like you that have this setup!

 

[1029TSG]

Hey Naz,

I tried to PM you but your inbox is full. Anyway, did you try tightening the rod a few turns? This should help and if not we can certainly swap it out for you.

 

[yo2001]

I wasn't insinuating anything but since you fired it up....

You sound like every other "SUPRA turbo" owner. Excuses, excuses.

"I havent run it yet, I didn't have race gas, I bought a turbo that promised me the world, but I don't have my (Insert nessisary supporting mod here) installed yet. My internal wastegate keeps messing up, even though (Insert company name here) promised me it would work great, blah,Blah,BLAH"

Besides I never went off topic, you were so hurt by then fact I said you couldnt make the same trap as another car.

So, get bent.

I have decided that I don't want this turbo, simply because of the ###s like you that already have em, and the fact that no-one makes real numbers or has any "real" comparisons besides, "It hits harder then my 16g did", and "The top end it crazy"

Well you guys are running 12's at best, no thanks.

Good luck you guys!

Corrected you post for you.

I didn't make excuses. it's facts. Didn't hurt my feeling at all. I got a bigger and better goal to chase than beating a 16G record now. At least I can talk about my own car.

 

[SpoOLxExO]

Well, then I'm just like you. I'm changing over setups.

At least my car has seen the 11's...

http://www.mightymouseracer.com/gallant.html

I'm all done with this thread...

All of you TO4B owners, good luck with your goals!!! I'll see you next year GT32 style.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

I'm all done with this thread...

Good because all you have done is start arguments, I've already had to clean your posts out tof this thread once.

If people haven't run they haven't, if they say it pulls harder than a 16g but haven't been to the dyno, good for them.

No use flaming them about it, all it will do is get YOU banned

 

[RavenX]

we need to rename this threa to something like "TO4B Discussion thread". If it wasn't for me losing my motor i would of gone to the track already and posted some concrete numbers for everything. In about 2 more weeks i will be done with the swap and have dyno numbers from 93oct to race gas as well as some drag runs to compare information.

Jay

 

[1029TSG]

I wouldn't mind driving down for that, should be worth the 90 mile trip. Should I bring some cash in case you win the Turbo Challenge?

 

[RavenX]

I wouldn't mind driving down for that, should be worth the 90 mile trip. Should I bring some cash in case you win the Turbo Challenge?

Hahah that would be cool if you could come....Am up for the challenge

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

we need to rename this threa to something like "TO4B Discussion thread".

If the thread starter and everyone agrees I will change it.

 

[RavenX]

If the thread starter and everyone agrees I will change it.

Am still amazed at how many replies this thread has. Alot of good info has been said. I don't mind changing it but like you said its up to the thread starter and everyone else here

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

The T04B v-trim made 400fwhp at 20 PSI.

I talked to David on the phone about the H3 version, and the he told me of a guy making much more than 400fwhp, but I'm not sure if it's a "secret" or anything, so I'll let him speak up, or at least give permission.

 

[RavenX]

Yup i know about this as well. He was on a mix of 93 and race gas according to what dave said. I however will max out the turbo with race gas and do some pump tests to find out how this turbo really performs and since dave lives about an hour and 30 minutes away from me i can be his personal guinea pig for any upcoming projects

 

[1029TSG]

Well, its not any "big" secret. However, this guy supplements his income as a weekend street racer so I wouldn't want to blow his cover. He's been running an H-3 for about 6 months or so and has managed to put down 525 hp on the dyno. Now, I can say its fully moded with all the goodies including water injection. It's hard to account for the added horsepower from the water injection since he never made a pass without it. His car never sees an ounce of pump gas or runs less than 25 psi. The biggest reason we dont want to share results like these or my personal 11 second pass is to avoid building a lot of "hype" about the turbo. I wouldn't ever want to mislead any of our customers in to thinking this turbo is going to run an 11 out of the box or lay down 500+ HP. I keep quiet so you guys can go out with your setups and share your "real world" results with everyone. Thus the reason for the Turbo Challenge. We wont allow test units, shop cars or NOS/Water injected setups to compete.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

John, You can change the name of the thread if you would like. I never knew this would get this big. Now it is filled with imformation and pictures also.

1029TSG : Is the turbo challenge for anyone that owns this turbo, No matter how long ago they purchased it? As long as they have proof? Would you need a video to prove this or how do you go about proving that? I only had this turbo for a little bit of time but I plan on putting some more mods on my car and having it dyno tuned. It is winter here so the track is not open yet. So when the time comes, If I put down 375-449whp or a 1/4 mile time of 12.00-12.49 I will get $50.00?

 

[1029TSG]

Thats correct!!!! As long as you purchased the turbo from Bullseye Power you are automatically registered to win. We have all your information in our database so you wont even need your receipt. The dyno or pass at the track really should be videotaped for all to see. If this is not possible and you are a tuner member please provide at least a picture of your car, list of mods, copy of the slip or dyno sheet.

 

[khendriksma1]

Does that also go for the B-52 from TheSpeedFactor.com since you are building those also? I just ordered that one.

Kevin

 

[1029TSG]

That's a good question, I'll have to get with Martin on that one.

 

[guitarXgeek]

Hey 1029TSG, what is this new T04B "50 Trim" that you guys are now carrying? What's the difference between this turbo and the T04B V-trim or H-3? Any flow numbers or compressor maps for us to look at? Thanks

 

[1029TSG]

V-trim - 48 lbs/min
50 trim - 49 lbs/min
H-3 - 50 lbs/min

Those are the "official" ratings from Garrett. With that being said, all three of these turbo combinations are very similar in flow numbers, they just make power in slightly different ways. The V-trim and 50 trim have indentical inducers, the 50 trim has a larger exducer (just under .25"). This larger exducer allows the turbo to be more efficient at higher boost levels. The H-3 has nearly a 60mm inducer that will provide more flow at lower boost levels than either the V or 50.