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I live in Canada and right now its not very warm out, about -30c
my car does not have a block heater too keep it warm.

I tryed to start my car this morning and it wouldent start, ive had this problem before but this time, the car doesnt crank at all it just makes a sound that sounds like an electric drill.

Whats wrong.

Thanks

 

[92AWDHX40]

With the cold weather a lot of wires can become brittle so check wiring again.

 

[loredo12]

I cant post yet because my membership is new but my 99 eclipse spyder gs stalled on me while driving the other day, i check out the car tested my battery and alternator both of those were bad so i replaced them, also checked my valve cover and spark plugs and did see oil leaking into the spark plug wells so i replaced the plugs with new ones and replaced the valve cover seal. the codes that i read off the car came up as crankshaft position sensor, so i went out and bought one so i can replace it problem is i cant figure out how to get the existing one out or the new one in, i know it sits on the bottom of the timing belt under the cover but even when i jack the car up its extremly hard to fit anything in there to get the cover off bewtween the fram of the car and the actual cover.


If anyone has some suggestions that would be greatly appreciated as i drive my car to work everyday and need it back up and running asap.




( additional info: car starts to crank but wont turn over, no spark coming from plugs. so with that and the code read, i would imagine it has to def be the crank sensor)

 

[Benjyc32]

with the cold weather a lot of wires can become brittle so check wiring again.

+1^^

 

[loredo12]

my 99 eclipse spyder gs stalled on me while driving the other day, i check out the car tested my battery and alternator both of those were bad so i replaced them, also checked my valve cover and spark plugs and did see oil leaking into the spark plug wells so i replaced the plugs with new ones and replaced the valve cover seal. the codes that i read off the car came up as crankshaft position sensor, so i went out and bought one so i can replace it problem is i cant figure out how to get the existing one out or the new one in, i know it sits on the bottom of the timing belt under the cover but even when i jack the car up its extremly hard to fit anything in there to get the cover off bewtween the fram of the car and the actual cover.


If anyone has some suggestions that would be greatly appreciated as i drive my car to work everyday and need it back up and running asap.




( additional info: car starts to crank but wont turn over, no spark coming from plugs. so with that and the code read, i would imagine it has to def be the crank sensor)

 

[spin1r6]

what do you mean by the car starts to crank? with a bad crank sensor your car should still crank it just wont start. if your starter is trying to crank the motor but the motor is not moving at all you have bigger problems. since im not sure exaclty what youre explaining my first suggestion would be put a ratchet on the crank bolt and trying turning it over by hand just to verify the motor actually turns.

 

[loredo12]

what do you mean by the car starts to crank? with a bad crank sensor your car should still crank it just wont start. if your starter is trying to crank the motor but the motor is not moving at all you have bigger problems. since im not sure exaclty what youre explaining my first suggestion would be put a ratchet on the crank bolt and trying turning it over by hand just to verify the motor actually turns.

that what i mean the if i turn the key everything sounds like it should it just doesnt fully turn over. so the motor is moving, but i imagine with me getting no spark its not possible for it to fully start, which is why i need this crank position sensor replaced. what im really asking is how you get to it since its by the bottom timing belt and the space bewtween the frame and the lower timing belt doesnt allow space to work so i can remove the cover and get the old CPS out.
im just trying to see if anyone has done this replacement before and how they did it.

 

[Mcmuscle3]

Any wire that pop out in particular to be checking?

Should be installing the new starter in tomorrow or saturday. Then il get a chance to find the real problem hopefully:/

 

[nismoz]

B-n-l had this with a 96 420a car. Similar symptoms but it would blow a fuse.
Cause was a wiring harness rubbing an shorted. It was intermittent though so was a bi*** to find. If memory serves, it was the bulk part over the trans close to the battery tray. Dont hold me to that though

 

[gforced20g]

Sounds like you have had the same thing happen that happened to me. I had my balance shaft belt break and destroy the crank angle sensor. Shut the car down it would turn over but wouldn't start no spark. If I remember correctly you have to take off the timing belt and crank pulley to get to it. Happened about 9 years but im pretty sure that's how I replaced the sensor.

 

[Mcmuscle3]

Scratch that... Checked the flywheel with my fingers to see what kinda shape it was in. Its got a small chunk out of it. So now I need a flywheel for my gsx. So if anyone has a free on they would like to donate to my lost cause let me know.
My dsm really does hate me

 

[eric4g63]

So I just got off work and my car won't start it makes a whizzing noise and doesn't move and the relay is fine I swapped it out and ideas I have got the starter off because it's raining and in a parking lot also when I go to turn it over all the dash lights go dark until I let off the key

 

[ThaDsmKid]

have you checked out your battery and the terminal cables and such...maybe the coilpack or spark plugs/wires.Maybe try one of those!

 

[osohead]

Move the cables back and fourth on the battery. If that doesn't work take the cables off the terminals and clean them.

 

[GoodbyeSTI]

You took the starter off...? That could be the noise if it ain't engaging with the flywheel.

 

[Surfer240sx]

car starts fine when its cold but when its warm it won't start its 91 talon TSI fwd auto ... any one know what might be causeing it ?

Sounds like a leaky injector flooding when it has pressure behind it. Try putting a kill switch for your fuel pump kill it with that to relieve fuel pressure behind the injector. Temporary fix but you will get an idea if it is an injector(s) plus its a good anti theft device that costs $5.

 

[loredo12]

Sounds like you have had the same thing happen that happened to me. I had my balance shaft belt break and destroy the crank angle sensor. Shut the car down it would turn over but wouldn't start no spark. If I remember correctly you have to take off the timing belt and crank pulley to get to it. Happened about 9 years but im pretty sure that's how I replaced the sensor.

THIS HAPPENED TO BE IT, THANKS FOR THE HELP, NOW THAT I HAVE THAT FIXXED i have a new problem though, since picking it up at the shop the car now makes a rattling noise that becomes very loud only when im at about 2600+ rpm, i have no idea what it could be? any suggestions

 

[Insane20]

Sounds like the oil pump is out of faze. When they did the balance shaft belt they had the timing belt off. They probably didn't put the oil pump in faze with the balance shaft.

 

[loredo12]

Sounds like the oil pump is out of faze. When they did the balance shaft belt they had the timing belt off. They probably didn't put the oil pump in faze with the balance shaft.

I have a video check this out,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=husF7Dj29-w&feature=youtube_gdata_player


This is my actual car

 

[retry_1]

I'm at a loss. My 95 AWD manual was having an issue where it would sputter and not run right, and finally wouldn't start at all. Fuel pump, relay and coil all checked okay, so we swapped injectors, and the cam and crank sensors from my 95 FWD parts car. known good parts till it spun a rod bearing. With everything put back together, the car started and ran better than it had since i bought it. I backed out of the drive, drove 150 yards, and it shut down. no sputter, slow death, just shut down instantly. I tried swapping to the other 95 ECU, and checked all fuses, but still no combustion. Any ideas?

 

[92AWDHX40]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-miscellaneous/217951-how-diagnose-no-start.html

 

[demonicgnome]

Ok i don't even know where to start. I have a 95 talon awd tsi auto trans. all stock 100k miles. I got it cheap $1000 it was stuck in limp mode when i got it. So i went looking for the problem when i notice they had bypass the mfi relay. i hooked the wiring to it back to normal and wont start just turns over slowly. so i went and got a new mfi relay (fun to find since its the 95 with one plug) anyways didn't fix problem. any help would be great. will post pictures tonight.

 

[raizen]

If your sure the wiring is as it should be check all the easy stuff. Clean, tighten, and check the battery voltage. Did the person you buy it from tell you what they did to the car or was trying to do?

 

[530talon]

Check for any loose grounds or wires that may be pinched

 

[demonicgnome]

The owner before me didn't know much about the car he thought it was the trans so I guess the owner before him did the wiring. I took it to a mechanic and they said the abs control module was missing... Would that cause this problem and where is its location. I will be starting checking all voltages later today. Will keep up to date. Any input helps new to wiring

Forgot to mention the way they had the mfi/mpi relay wired.
both black red blanks untouched
red/white untouched
black/white and blue/light green spliced together...

wired this way car will turn over fine but will be in limp mode and floods... im really lost please help....

Picture of mfi the way it was when I purchased car

 

[907dirtybird]

were they trying to bypass the 20 amp "Engine" fuse located under the hood? Just a guess, but thats what normally runs all those things you mentioned.