SkateBoard [Inline Skate wheel] Bearings? [Merged 12-6]

[will90Eclipse]

I'm thinking of doing the Skateboard bearing shifter mod and I was wondering what size the bearings are? I've checked other posts and can't find the sizes.
Thanks Will

 

[JUNKYARD1GTALON]

/Users/darkdesertsky/Desktop/Picture 2.jpg this is the are im talking about

 

[JUNKYARD1GTALON]

oops how do you show pics here?

 

[MrBoxx]

Honestly, I never used that part on my shifter. I replaced the base bushings and checked the play on the pivot and never saw a point to using it. Besides, a few days later, I replaced the whole thing with a B&M shifter.

 

[JUNKYARD1GTALON]

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this is what your talking about with the pivot shaft right? maybe i can find sone tubeing to fill this gap iF not in the kit?

 

[Gamble97]

Shit, I only did one of the shift linkage cables for now and WOW what a diff. I can't thank you guys enough. I am getting 2 more bearing to finish up the job.
It was a tight fit getting them in (at first look it looked like they were too small) i put a socket on the bearing with an extension and hit it with a hammer it went on like a charm.

best mod so far

 

[Talesin]

Junkyard, sounds like your shifter pivot bushings are dead/missing. You mean that the shifter arm (the part you screw the shift knob onto) flops around on the bolt that holds it to the shifter base, right?

You can get new bushings for that from Mitsu at about seven bucks a pop. You'll need two, to do it right.
Alternately, you can just take a plastic sign (like one of those FOR SALE things you can buy at OSH) and cut a thin strip of it, and slowly shim between the shifter and bolt. When you get it fairly snug, remove the bolt and lube the inner surface with grease. It's not as good as getting the bushings from Mitsu, but it'll work if you have spare time and don't want to spend $14 on two little bits of plastic.



I'm going to have to do the bearing replacement myself... the original under-hood bushings have degraded/rotted away enough that I have almost a full half-inch of play. Thankfully, my shifter base seems tight for the moment, rubber bushings and all.

 

[MrBoxx]

I still haven't done my rollerblade bearing install. Weekend after next, though. I'm getting excited about it after hearing a few excellent reviews in this thread.

 

[DSMunknown]

I just finished this mod yesterday. Here are a couple things that should be emphasized:



1. The vertical bearing is A B**CH to get in.

2. The vertical bearing is A B**CH to get in. It's a real b**ch.

3. The vertical bearing is A B**CH to get in. It is a mother******* wh**e-child.

4. Hopefully the first three points are clearly emphasized.

5. The horizontal bearing is not that great of a joy either, but it is quite easier than the vertical one.

6. DO NOT attempt to put two skateboard bearings into the vertical bracket. You might as well do something far more painful and less frustrating instead. Don't waste your time. If and when you get one bearing properly inside the vertical bearing, give yourself a pat on the back. Instead, use the washer method that "brute" suggests.

7. I was dumb enough to waste energy and time fitting in two bearings into the horizontal bracket that when I was about to say "F*** it, I'm just going to do one" it was too late. I already had fitted them onto their proper placements that I couldn't turn back. It was just easier to bear down and make them fit.

8. When "brute" tells you to use brute force, he means it.

9. The two cotter pins are not necessarily needed after the bearings are in. I had to use one of the two pins on my horizontal bracket hole because I don't think I got both bearings down as best I could. However, I figured if it took that much energy to get them on, what's the chance of them coming loose and falling off? So I only could fit the cotter pin in the hole.

10. In light of number nine, I used a small finishing nail to go through the vertical bracket hole. Noobs, do not ask me what size I used. Use your own common sense (aka one that fits through the hole).

11. Don't forget to bend the nail to an angle after you get it about halfway through.

12. As for the vertical bracket, I STRONGLY advise you to use two vice grips (if you do not know what those are, google them).

13. Here is what you do regarding number twelve: use one vice grip to at least get the bearing in the vertical bracket so it stays in. It can be barely in the bracket, so long as it doesn't fall out if you accidentally hit it when fitting other tools and stuff down and around that area.

14. Before I forget, zip-tie that damn radiator hose that is right in the way. You will know which one I am talking about when you start to perform this mod. I would advise you to zip-tie it so it is pulled slightly forward AND to the right. I would say that getting pulled to the right is more important, but you should do both. Do not pull the zip-ties so incredibly hard that the hose either comes off, comes off just enough to create a leak, or somehow damages the hose so that there is a leak.

15. Anyways, after you do number thirteen, get a quarter (you know, the George Washington 25 cent United States currency coin) and put it between the vice grip and the bearing. You will obviously have to take off the vice grip to perform this. Next, find something that is AT LEAST as thick as the quarter. DO NOT use another quarter. Do not put two quarters together. Find some piece of metal of some sort (on the thin side) and place it between the vice grip and the vertical bracket (basically, the opposite side of where the quarter is placed). If you use another quarter, you will end up bending it. Well, who cares about a damn quarter anywho? Well, first of all it is a federal offence to deface or damage US currency. But more importantly, the vice grip (in the following steps) will be applying so much force that the quarter will not be a very good base for the vice grip, and the bearing will not be as successful in getting in the damn hole. Also, I found out that if you do not use the quarter that is in contact with the bearing, the vice grip will begin to push into the bearing, which is not something you want.

16. Make sure you have the quarter, the vice grip, and the other piece of metal in your hands. You will be juggling the quarter and the metal piece in one hand while at the same time (and with the same hand) applying pressure so that these two things don't fall off the vertical bracket. It may take a few tries to find the proper adjustment for the vice grip so you can just grab on to the whole caboodle .

17. Once you have figured this out, take the other vice grip (remember, I said you needed two) and clamp it around the adjusting screw of the first vice grip. Now start turning so the first vice grip is getting tighter and tighter.

18. Be mindful of how much you are tightening. Really put some "umph" behind the tightening, but also check every time you tighten the vertical bracket that the bearing is trying to squeeze into. You do not want to damage this. This could lead to serious headaches, which I was fortunate enough to avoid.

19. If you see that the bearing is getting pushed in at an angle, simply take off the first vice grip and apply it to the place where it needs to go down more.

20. Remember to use some motor oil on the inside and outside of the bearing, as well as the inside of the vertical bracket. When fitting the bearing onto the vertical bracket "nipple" (you know, the thing that has the vertical bracket hole) also put a drop or two on that. It will make life easier.

21. I do not suggest you use any c-clamps (or anything similar) for this mod. They cannot apply the same amount of pressure with the same ease as the vice grip can. Plus, when using the c-clamp method, I found that random hoses and the tranny got in the way. Just do yourself a favor and use the damn vice grips.

22. When you're done, do a little dance, have "a cold one," thank me for the write-up, and remember to cut off the zip-ties. I think that's about it. I was going to add something about the use of sockets, but I will just simply say this: don't bother.




I sincerely hope this helps my fellow 4G63 family members out there (because I don't condone the 420A). Keep boostin'!!

 

[mjarrell20]

great write up. has anyone used mach v's green bushing kit? if so how does that compare to the bearings? cause i have the bearings waiting to go on my car.

 

[timm98gst]

it seems like some people are welding two bearings together and some are not - is this absolutely necessary? does it make a difference?

 

[4G63Boosted]

You don't have to weld them together. The only benifit I see, is it may make it easier when pressing the bearings into the cable ends.

 

[vr4gasmtt]

ok, I just did this mod and let me just say...

If your having a hard time doing this, take out the retainer clips holding hte shifter cables down and pull them back and up and over the intercooler piping, and get a wooden board and hammer them down. I spent numerous hours using a clamp, vice grips and to no avail started cussing...

so if it seems impossible... take the retainer clips out and hammer them in.

I do notice a difference but its not as "harcdcore" as everyone says they are. It feels alot stiffer thats for sure.

 

[VanIsleDSM]

bit of an older thread, but I'll revive it, did anyone just try putting the bearings in the feezer and lightly torching the cable ends?

 

[2gAWDTalon]

Again, old thread, but I thought I would add my experience. Just did the mod! In regards to the freezer/torch, it wasn't needed on mine, but is great idea if your's are extremely tough. For mine, Just as Brute explained, I got the bearings in a little bit with a channel locks and then used a 3" c-clamp to complete insertion. They fit in tight but it took me less then 5 minutes to do both. They were a little tight getting back on the shaft, but a little motivation from the channel locks and the were right on. I put 2 washers behind and 2 in front along with the big factory washer and the cotter pin barley fit back in, and that is perfect. The tighter you get it to the cotter pin, the less slop there will be. Cant wait to get the car back together and feel the difference of this mod and the Redline Shockproof I just filled the gearbox with! Thanks Brute!

In regards to the rubber ones that came out... I think Mitsubishi designed them for movement. Mine had slots cut into them to provide play! The factory ones suck for performance driving.

 

[meliketoball]

guys, I am stuck at level one. I don't know how to get the bearings out of my skateboard wheel! I tried hammering it out with a punch. I only ended up messing up my expensive element wheels..I don't want to ruin my expensive black bone bearings.

 

[DSMunknown]

guys, I am stuck at level one. I don't know how to get the bearings out of my skateboard wheel! I tried hammering it out with a punch. I only ended up messing up my expensive element wheels..I don't want to ruin my expensive black bone bearings.

As I remember, it's really a no brainer. Mine came out extremely easy, but it was on a very old board I never used. Try some WD-40. If you're still looking for some after a while, I've got some. Look here.

 

[nightspeed87]

Just another add in, I have the skateboard bushing and the symbroski shifter plate bushings on my dsm and they make the gears feel much stiffer and less inconsistent throws pretty much like everyone else is saying. Worth doing... Now I just need to get the prourethane motor mounts in the engine bay .

 

[Defiant]

guys, I am stuck at level one. I don't know how to get the bearings out of my skateboard wheel!

You don't. You pop the five bucks at the board shop for new ones. Or, eBay.

 

[thekellbeast]

They do make skate tools that have bearing pullers on them, but it's a lot easier to just go over to the local skate shop. Hell, even sporting goods store like Dick's will have them, as long as they carry roller blades.

BTW, I have the Symborski kit, brass cable end bearings, and the B&M short shifter. My shifting rocks!

 

[meliketoball]

I am just kidding about the bearing stuck in the wheel. I popped it out in like 2 seconds prying it with the trucks; Old school trick for the poor kids who couldn't afford tools. But anyways, I did this mod in like 10 mins..I lubed them up good with some grease then they went in easy with a pair of vice grips then I leveled it out with some washers. It looks pretty cool and shiny.

 

[DSMunknown]

I am just kidding about the bearing stuck in the wheel. I popped it out in like 2 seconds prying it with the trucks; Old school trick for the poor kids who couldn't afford tools. But anyways, I did this mod in like 10 mins..I lubed them up good with some grease then they went in easy with a pair of vice grips then I leveled it out with some washers. It looks pretty cool and shiny.

At least someone else used vice grips other than myself. Phew.

 

[meliketoball]

I drove my car and wow it made my shifts a lot softer for the tranny considering I have a damn ACT pressure plate with their damn hardened center. Good stuff.

 

[EnticivEclipse]

Heres more pictures from MachV...
And
if your lazy to dig up the skateboard bearings....
http://www.machv.com/mavshcabeinh.html

 

[DSM1G90]

I know this is an old thread, but what is the bearing number on these bearings. I know of a bearing supply house in town where I could possibly get these bearings since I also need to do this mod due to I have a good .060 of play in my cables in Neutral.

I have a small arbor press to press the bearings in the retainer rings.

thx-DSM

 

[frankenstein406]

any skateboard shop will have them just get i think its reds bones bearings there cheap and tuff