Seafoam killed my car and I broke my fuel line.

[bryanwheat]

Phunny TY for your input.

I have personally seen these inline filters on many cars and have yet to see one rupture. And as I said before it is a temporary solution and a quick fix to see if the car will start. And the onyl way to verify that the pump is "gummed" up is to open it up. I had an issue earlier with this, encountering another stuck nut on a fuel line leading into the tank. Rather than risk bending or breaking another hardline. I simply went to this quick fix and "verified" the pump is indeed still working. Which it is- as for working at the "proper pressure"- no I am not sure.

After replacing what the ECU told me is malfunctioning didnt fix the issue, now I know is another issue.

Which I think is spark Or air.

Yes, those cars are carbureted that run these filters. The case is literally glued together on it. Good luck.

 

[SOADweskey]

I also advise that on a car with fuel pressure as high as ours gets you do not run that filter. I know it is a bit pricy but I had a similar issue with my stock filter not wanting to come loos and I bent it up pretty good so I just bought this STM | 90-99 DSM FUEL TANK TO RAIL KIT No problems since then.

 

[bmoha7321]

Clogged fuel filter will burn up a fuel pump quickly. Using said same crap clear fuel filter as a gauge to see if you getting fuel isn't a good test. You have no way to meter flow. You could be getting 6 psi. How to tell? With that setup you can't. It's very easy to pop out the fuel pump to replace the sock.

 

[Boomdeeze]

So seafoam kill your car because you had crap in your lines that clogged the really old fuel filter? And fix the car right. If you can afford to fix the fuel line correctly, I would just cut your losses and sell it now as its gonna run into more expensive fixes in the future.

 

[1990whitetsiawd]

I'm not sure it's worth trying to help him anymore. This is the reason why dsm's have a bad rap.

You should open the tank replace the pump and filter sock as all that crud has gone through the pump to get to the filter. Fix the line properly, stop saying seafoam did anything to your car because you poured it in the car. I have suggested this days ago and countless other people have as well.

 

[twicks69]

Well, the fact that he has not listened to ANY advice in ANY of his "help needed" threads on this forum, I only see this ending badly.

You should seriously not do this. Meaning, go pick up a different hobby that won't kill you by doing it wrong. Like sand sculptures or rock collecting. You clearly don't have what it takes to fix your car yourself, let a professional do this and accept the fact that you are definitely not a mechanic or capable of making sound decisions.

Tim Zimmer via Evo Phone

 

[RayRay32]

Phunny TY for your input.

I have personally seen these inline filters on many cars and have yet to see one rupture. And as I said before it is a temporary solution and a quick fix to see if the car will start. And the onyl way to verify that the pump is "gummed" up is to open it up. I had an issue earlier with this, encountering another stuck nut on a fuel line leading into the tank. Rather than risk bending or breaking another hardline. I simply went to this quick fix and "verified" the pump is indeed still working. Which it is- as for working at the "proper pressure"- no I am not sure.

After replacing what the ECU told me is malfunctioning didnt fix the issue, now I know is another issue.

Which I think is spark Or air.

There are easier ways to verify if the pump is working than hacking up a fuel line. I like that part of this thread where you blamed seafoam for causing you to go apeshit on your fuel line. Maybe you have been hitting the seafoam a little hard

Considering you botched a seafoam cleaning, I wouldn't listen to any of the advice in this thread because these people more than likely read directions. You have already made your mind up and know what is best for your car.

I'll say it again:

I SEA what you did there. You will learn a lot FOAM this experience. Good luck with your car.

 

[starfish]

If you realy need to see your fuel through the filter,order a Mr gasket clearveiw filter from jegs($11.99)not sure how much pressure it holds.It should hold up better than the one you have.Also use high pressure hoses with fuel injection clamps with barbed fittings.Should last long enough to save up for a fuel to rail kit.Why not just use a FP gauge?

 

[gofer]

This thread has ran its course. Seafoam works well for the million other DSMers that have ran it because they read the directions on the back of the can. To see how wonderful Seafoam actually is follow this
link ---> http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/222686-seafoam-works-merged.html?highlight=Seafoam+MERGED

Threads been cleaned up and re-opened.

Leon, if you ask for advice and you go the exact opposite direction from what everyone is telling you to do then its getting closed for good. What's the point of asking for help if you aren't going to listen to it in the first place? If you run that filter in place of the OE fuel filter you're an idiot, that's not designed for that application.

 

[Leonthefaded]

I'm gonna say this only one time

The car will not be running on this filter. The see thru filter was placed there to see if the pump still works and if it is pumping clean fuel. It is pumping just fine and the fuel is clean.

Lets move on from the filter that is being replaced by a BETTER and SAFER filter.

 

[bryanwheat]

So how many psi of fuel pressure at idle with the vacuum line removed do you have?

 

[nickk90]

I'm gonna say this only one time

The car will not be running on this filter. The see thru filter was placed there to see if the pump still works and if it is pumping clean fuel. It is pumping just fine and the fuel is clean.

Lets move on from the filter that is being replaced by a BETTER and SAFER filter.

That does tell you that fuel is flowing but it might only be 10psi of pressure not the 42-45psi required to start the car.
The filter on your pump itself is probably clogged just as bad as your filter on the fire wall . You need to remove it and clean/replace it

 

[evileclipse909]

If I had to make a guess I'd say the injectors are probably stuck open causing flooding. And when you flood it bad enough it can actually wash out the rings causing temporary no compression. Check to make sure your oil isn't contaminated. And if its really over full or more full than usual then definitely flooding is going on.

 

[RamenPride]

The see thru filter was placed there to see if the pump still works and if it is pumping clean fuel.

Nice try.... You could have accomplished this just by putting the end of the hose in a clean, clear container to catch the fuel coming out. You don't need the filter on there to see if it's dirty before coming out clean on the other end.

There's a method to removing the stock fuel filter, and it looks like you didn't follow it. The lower flare nut can be a pain to get off, but it can be done without twisting the line repeatedly causing it to break like that. The cheapest correct way to fix it would be to cut it, slide on an appropriate compression fitting, then re-flare the end. You can then use extra hardline or stainless steel braided line to make up the additional length needed depending on whatever fuel filter you want to use.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Nice try.... You could have accomplished this just by putting the end of the hose in a clean, clear container to catch the fuel coming out. You don't need the filter on there to see if it's dirty before coming out clean on the other end.

There's a method to removing the stock fuel filter, and it looks like you didn't follow it. The lower flare nut can be a pain to get off, but it can be done without twisting the line repeatedly causing it to break like that. The cheapest correct way to fix it would be to cut it, slide on an appropriate compression fitting, then re-flare the end. You can then use extra hardline or stainless steel braided line to make up the additional length needed depending on whatever fuel filter you want to use.

Right now I don't have the ability to reflare the end of the hardline nor the funds to take it to a shop and allow them to do it. For the sake of not leaking fuel everywhere the rubber hose has to stay put. I was aware of using a container to catch fuel and see if the pump was still functional but I decided not to use that because I'm still in the middle of diagnosing why my car won't start and this fuel system debacle only adds to another reason of why it won't start.

As in a previous post suggested, it would make sense just to upgrade my fuel system with an ss line from the tank to the rail and an inline filter. Along with a new fuel pump all together. Of course again that will have to be in a few weeks due to finances.

I get what your saying though

 

[jtmcinder]

[must resist....]

You're in the middle of diagnosing why your car won't start which is why you won't do one of the basic tests for why a car won't start - i.e., check the fuel pump by having it pump fuel into a bottle.

Is that what you're saying?

 

[TSITurbo95]

After reading this whole thread, how is it still open?

 

[Calan]

After reading this whole thread, how is it still open?

Entertainment value?

 

[BogusSVO]

Leon,

You can fix the fuel filter hard lies for $30 or less, 2 5/16 compression fittings, and a GM fuel filter, and a stick of 5/16 fuel line from any part store.

Then check fuel pressure up at the fuel rail

Pull the fuel injectors and check the filter baskets for crud and trash ( they are in the end of og the FI that goes in the fuel rail)

 

[jtmcinder]

Then check fuel pressure up at the fuel rail

Pull the fuel injectors and check the filter baskets for crud and trash ( they are in the end of og the FI that goes in the fuel rail)

Shouldn't you ask how far his house is from 640 California Avenue before suggesting the above?

 

[Leonthefaded]

[must resist....]

You're in the middle of diagnosing why your car won't start which is why you won't do one of the basic tests for why a car won't start - i.e., check the fuel pump by having it pump fuel into a bottle.

Is that what you're saying?

No I'm being serious. I was in the middle of diagnosing why my car wouldn't start. And then I broke my fuel line. Now I'm getting together what I need to fix the fuel line. And possibly replace my fuel pump and injectors. Then I'm right back to diagnosing my no start.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Leon,

You can fix the fuel filter hard lies for $30 or less, 2 5/16 compression fittings, and a GM fuel filter, and a stick of 5/16 fuel line from any part store.

Then check fuel pressure up at the fuel rail

Pull the fuel injectors and check the filter baskets for crud and trash ( they are in the end of og the FI that goes in the fuel rail)

I got that but at the present time I don't have that 30 dollars to spare on my dsm. But when I do have that and more I can replace the whole line with the stm fuel tank to rail kit OR peice together my own ss fuel line to a performance inline filter I saw on jegs. But that will take a bit of time. The car isn't going anywhere

 

[jtmcinder]

If you're going to try to start the car before fixing the fuel line correctly, then my question about how far your house is from 640 California Avenue is back on the front burner, as it were.

 

[kidtsi]

you are funny.

 

[Leonthefaded]

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