2G Rear Alignment Questions

[JackStieben]

Hello, my 97 gst is lowered with eibach springs and tokico struts. I just installed an rm sway bar and prothane bushings all in the rear. I wanted to try and fix my rear camber with the washer method using 4 washers on each bolt. When I took the car to the dealership for an alignment, the tech said the washers wouldn't do anything and he couldn't adjust my toe or camber unless I got new rear control arms to adjust it. Is this true? I'm not top knowledgeable when it comes to adjusting suspension. Should I try more washers?

 

[blkgst97]

By putting the washers behind the control arm mounting bracket and the body it pushes the control arm outward giving more positive camber. So depending on how you have them, yes it does do something and he's an idiot

 

[dustyboner]

That tech shoild be fired if he said he couldnt adjust the toe on the rear. That is the one thing on the rear that is adjustable from the factory.

 

[gst-turbo]

You should buy a rear camber kit and with that it's easy to adjust camber. The dealarship might not want to touch the washers to adjust it might be to much work and the toe can be adjust easily

 

[JackStieben]

You should buy a rear camber kit and with that it's easy to adjust camber. The dealarship might not want to touch the washers to adjust it might be to much work and the toe can be adjust easily

What camber kit do you suggest? I've been to another alignment shop that specializes in low cars and lifted trucks/jeeps, and they wereto adjust everything but rear camber. They suggested new control arms, but I've seen those brackets that attach to the control arm.

 

[gst-turbo]

I have the ones on the link and they are easy to adjust

https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=18785&cat=262&page=1

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

MJcanada, Aug 21, 2012 #6

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/camberplate.htm
http://www.jnztuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=3219&osCsid=d03436b75fba74ddccfb9adfb298f5d1
http://www.jnztuning.com/product_info.php?products_id=3218&osCsid=4f8ad72247fd062f81850e8e6a6a4547
http://www.jscspeed.com/catalog/Mit..._Camber_Kit_for_95_99_Mitsubishi_Eclipse.html

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-camber-kits.444686/

 

[JackStieben]

So am I going to have to get a camber kit to be able to adjust the toe? Can I just try more washers?

 

[dustyboner]

No the toe is adjustable from the showroom. It the only thing you can adjust on the rear without buying parts

 

[JackStieben]

Just got an alignment from a respectable shop here in town. Here are the results.

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I also just realized that they put down that I have 16" wheels, but I have 17". Not sure if that would make a difference.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Wow thats alot of rear camber! You need to fix that asap! -1.5/2 max for the rear, whow much are you lowered by?

 

[gst-turbo]

Rear camber is really bad and can be adjusted with the camber kit and one of the front wheels has a lot of camber might be wear on parts but you should buy a front camber kit also.

 

[gst-turbo]

When you said that they put down 16 wheels size and not 17 it's because that's what stock alignment specs are and some alingnment machines all you do is type in vin and it gives you own specs should be fine. It's really hard to get a perfect alignment on lowers cars.

 

[gofer]

You've got (3) options for fixing your front camber.

Cheapest : Ingall's front UCA camber kit
Moderate (needs pressed in for install) : Ingall's front UCA ball joint camber kit
Expensive but the most reliable way : 2g spherical 4130 front LCA's​

You've got (3) options for fixing your rear camber.

Cheapest : STM 2g rear camber kit
Moderate : Ingall's rear UCA camber kit
Expensive : 4130 rear tubular subframe/LCA's/toe arms
​

Pick your poison, whatever you can afford. You'll either spend it now on alignment parts/alignments and save your tires or you'll go through the set of tires and spend it later so you don't jack up your new set of tires. I learned the hard way, I couldn't get rear camber in so I said f*** it and 3 months later I popped a year old tire because of the inside wear.

You can spend $200 on the right parts to align your car to save your $500+ tires later...

 

[JackStieben]

The P.O. told me it was lowered 1.6". He's the one who put on the springs and shocks. Because of the previous awful rear toe, I'm going to need new tires soon anyways so I'll get to fixing this before hand. So my best bet would be to get one of the options above for the front and rear and then go back for another alignment? Thank you everyone for your help.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Its lowered more then 1.6" when i did mine and worked out the degree per inch it is not close to being 3* so my guess is your close to being over 2" lower, ive got my book somewhere were i wrote all this down so when i find it i will let you know what the rates are for camber per inch or mm of drop