Parts Confusion: Starter From 99 4g63 FWD Not Working

[Playfortoday]

I have a 99 GST Manual. I recently bought and installed a 95-99 4g63 from tiger. Both engines are 7 bolt. It was engine only. No trans or starter etc. It looks like they sent me an awd engine, because the starter just spins. We used the fwd fly wheel from the old engine and starter from the old engine since the flywheel was seated already and both were pretty new.

Now before any should have searched comments, I looked for at least an hour to try to avoid being or looking dumb. The issue is I cannot find the same exact situation so I am getting confused.

I cannot say if the starter shim or starter plate was used or from which car. Has to be the usdm original motor stuff. Not the stuff from tiger since it was only the engine from them. Just trying to be thorough on the info and I was absent from that day off the swap. It continued on without me.

So in a nutshell, can you tell me which parts I need or should have used. So... which parts should I use or be needing?

Flywheel from which? The starter from the car or an awd one? A shim? A starter plate? Can I modify bolt holes or modify anything? Pays list I need?

Thanks so much in advance. I cannot tell you how much I would appreciate black and white answers with no room for interpretation.

 

[TSiAWD666]

Flywheel and shim from fwd, starter from either.

 

[miliman13]

you need a FWD starter plate STM: OEM MITSUBISHI STARTER PLATE | MANUAL TRANSMISISON | 2G 95-99 DSM | MD167356 | MD194962 | MD194962

 

[Playfortoday]

Flywheel and shim from fwd, starter from either.

Thanks very much for the response. I relayed that info to my son. He said the original fwd engine's flywheel would not line up with the jdm awd engine. It apparently was an aftermarket flywheel on the original engine if that matters. I don't think it would. Both are 7 bolt as stated earlier. So given that issue, is there a solution?

Also, supposing we must use the awd flywheel with the fwd trans, is there a solution to get a working starter?

Again much appreciated.

I read the second reply which has me worried. Is there any reason why the fwd flywheel will not line up with the awd jdm engine/crank?

 

[luv2rallye]

Factory starters and starter plate info: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/new...459007-bought-my-first-dsm.html#post153217957

Factory flywheel info (FWD vs AWD): http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/mai...64-after-few-starts-whizzz.html#post152565587

 

[Playfortoday]

I want to thank everyone who has helped so far. Sorry for the delay, but the Chicago winter had made it impossible to work on the car. We are still stuck. Here is the current state. ..

It is a 95-99 jdm motor. It had tobe from an awd car so, it has the awd flywheel. We have tried both the awd starter and a fwd starter. Both times we used the started plate from the fwd motor that was from the original fwd motor. I believe the flywheel is marked 63ket. Extra info is that the original motor had an adjustable cam sensor. The new jdm engine did not. Just adding that in case it helps identify what we have now.

All configurations ended with the same result... The starter cannot engage the flywheel and just spins.

So before we turn this car into a boat anchor out of frustration, is there something simple we are missing in the responses or in our work? I am assuming we just need to get the starter gear closer to the flywheel? Is there a mounting plate that will do this?

Or should we get a different flywheel? Which one?

What in the heck are we doing wrong? If it is a part, can you provide a link or manufacturer and part name?

Completely losing our minds. Thanks again for any help. I promise to post a solution when we get there.

 

[YUPOK]

I'll try to make this simple cause it get's very confusing and just went through the same issues.

FWD Flywheel = 110 teeth
AWD Flywheel = 106 teeth (smaller to clear AWD output shaft)

First verify the fly wheel issue. You need to have the correct one for your setup stock or aftermarket.

The fact that the starter bolts up most likely means your starter plate is functional.

Automatic starter has a shorter housing and plunger gear throw than the 5 speed. The 5 speed starter is getting harder and harder to find, even from the car parts store. The 5 speed starter will have a plate behind the little plunger gear that should line up flush with the mating surface of the starter and where it sits on the bell housing. If you see that the plate behind the plunger gear is recessed about a quarter inch, it's the auto starter and will not come out enough to grab the flywheel.

Even the car parts store by me had the auto starter in the wrong box, so careful there.

Hope this helps.