ODDUWON
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- Sep 29, 2018
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NORWALK,
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Hey Guys, Do you think my "rebuilt" oil pump is the cause of the low oil pressure I am seeing on the stock gauge and in early bearing wear?
I saw some glitter in the last oil change. 1,000 miles on the oil and was 3rd change since break-in round 2 was completed, which has about 2,500 miles and 2 smog checks total. Glitter can be picked up with a magnet. Engine is stock with a .020 bore rebuild. Plastigauge when installing main bearings showed .0015 clear on all mains. Using 10w30 conventional from O'Reilly. Southern California Sunday Driver.
I have been seeing oil pressure on stock gauge staying at the first line with 3k+ RPM. Will drop to basically zero if idle for more than a minute. Engine is quiet with no ticks or taps. New OEM OP Sending Unit from JNZ, no change.
I checked oil pressure with a new Harborfreight gauge, that i don't really trust, at the oil pressure sending unit hole (90 OFH). Cold start saw 85 psi. Up to temp and fans on saw 20 psi at idle, 80 psi #3k, 90 psi @4k, 120 psi @5k in driveway. Stock gauge still read very low.
Main and Rod Bearing picture is from last week with 2,500 miles on it (street/fwy Sunday driving). Oil pump that was in it was a ITM from 2005 think. The pump back cover has the ground off Hyundai logo and front says DOHC 2.0. I could fit the .008 feeler in at Tip clearance. Seemed to open up rapidly as I went away from the narrowest point. Some circular scuffing on the cover plate at drive gear. Easy finger nail catch+. I checked the 90 OFH ports a few weeks ago and all looked clear. Cleaned relief spring piston and bore with #0000 steel wool. Spring looked good, did not measure.
Back story:
When breaking it in the first time back in 2021 the stock gauge would read just above the first line, which is a bit less than where it used to before the rebuild. Then around mile 600 the pressure spiked to the end of high and pegged for 30 seconds as I got off the fwy and then fell back to just at or below the first line. Barely passed smog on rebuild 1. Shop set ring end gap to 2X limit in the Haynes manual and compression sucked. Blew out my dipstick. Used homemade boost tester and leakdown to determine rings not happy. Shop man said he replaced the oil pump gear also. Oil idiot light came on at idle a few times. Anyway, I re-honed using ball hone and ATF like I think 1990TSIAWDTALON linked a video of and put in new rings. I also changed all the bearings because they had the same wear I am seeing now. Drove it for 1,000 miles of break in and passes smog easy. Car runs smooth and doesn't burn oil now, but the oil pressure gauge is always lower than where I think it should be. Put another 1,500 miles on it just hoping the gauge is as inaccurate as I've seen other folks say on DSMtuners forums (pressure yes or no haha). Then I found the glitter.
Current state:
I bought a ACL oil pump and set of aluglide rod and half groove main bearings from Extremepsi after I saw the glitter. ACL pump cannot fit the .006 feeler and looks tighter all around compared to the other one.The ACL case machining/casting looks rough, which others have mentioned, but I have a concern about the balance shaft section of the case. Should it look this rough? It is machined below the case's deck surface, but it is not smooth. Not sure if the balance shaft touches this surface or not, but i am concerned it would eat up the shaft face if it did. I put the spacer, sprocket, and bolt into the shaft with the ITM case and there is a little bit of play in and out. I slid a feeler gauge under a flat bar there on the bench and it is about double what the ITM was. Can't remember what feeler I used, i think it was .009 on the ITM?.
Also what is up with this ACL casting machine work? Should I clean this up with a burr, or just leave it? This is the main oil passage I believe.
Any suggestions on other places to look for pressure problems, or other sources of the glitter that attracts to a magnet would be greatly appreciated. Also opinions on which brand oil pump/front case to buy in 2025 would be cool.
Thanks.
I saw some glitter in the last oil change. 1,000 miles on the oil and was 3rd change since break-in round 2 was completed, which has about 2,500 miles and 2 smog checks total. Glitter can be picked up with a magnet. Engine is stock with a .020 bore rebuild. Plastigauge when installing main bearings showed .0015 clear on all mains. Using 10w30 conventional from O'Reilly. Southern California Sunday Driver.
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I have been seeing oil pressure on stock gauge staying at the first line with 3k+ RPM. Will drop to basically zero if idle for more than a minute. Engine is quiet with no ticks or taps. New OEM OP Sending Unit from JNZ, no change.
I checked oil pressure with a new Harborfreight gauge, that i don't really trust, at the oil pressure sending unit hole (90 OFH). Cold start saw 85 psi. Up to temp and fans on saw 20 psi at idle, 80 psi #3k, 90 psi @4k, 120 psi @5k in driveway. Stock gauge still read very low.
Main and Rod Bearing picture is from last week with 2,500 miles on it (street/fwy Sunday driving). Oil pump that was in it was a ITM from 2005 think. The pump back cover has the ground off Hyundai logo and front says DOHC 2.0. I could fit the .008 feeler in at Tip clearance. Seemed to open up rapidly as I went away from the narrowest point. Some circular scuffing on the cover plate at drive gear. Easy finger nail catch+. I checked the 90 OFH ports a few weeks ago and all looked clear. Cleaned relief spring piston and bore with #0000 steel wool. Spring looked good, did not measure.
Back story:
When breaking it in the first time back in 2021 the stock gauge would read just above the first line, which is a bit less than where it used to before the rebuild. Then around mile 600 the pressure spiked to the end of high and pegged for 30 seconds as I got off the fwy and then fell back to just at or below the first line. Barely passed smog on rebuild 1. Shop set ring end gap to 2X limit in the Haynes manual and compression sucked. Blew out my dipstick. Used homemade boost tester and leakdown to determine rings not happy. Shop man said he replaced the oil pump gear also. Oil idiot light came on at idle a few times. Anyway, I re-honed using ball hone and ATF like I think 1990TSIAWDTALON linked a video of and put in new rings. I also changed all the bearings because they had the same wear I am seeing now. Drove it for 1,000 miles of break in and passes smog easy. Car runs smooth and doesn't burn oil now, but the oil pressure gauge is always lower than where I think it should be. Put another 1,500 miles on it just hoping the gauge is as inaccurate as I've seen other folks say on DSMtuners forums (pressure yes or no haha). Then I found the glitter.
Current state:
I bought a ACL oil pump and set of aluglide rod and half groove main bearings from Extremepsi after I saw the glitter. ACL pump cannot fit the .006 feeler and looks tighter all around compared to the other one.The ACL case machining/casting looks rough, which others have mentioned, but I have a concern about the balance shaft section of the case. Should it look this rough? It is machined below the case's deck surface, but it is not smooth. Not sure if the balance shaft touches this surface or not, but i am concerned it would eat up the shaft face if it did. I put the spacer, sprocket, and bolt into the shaft with the ITM case and there is a little bit of play in and out. I slid a feeler gauge under a flat bar there on the bench and it is about double what the ITM was. Can't remember what feeler I used, i think it was .009 on the ITM?.
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Also what is up with this ACL casting machine work? Should I clean this up with a burr, or just leave it? This is the main oil passage I believe.
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Any suggestions on other places to look for pressure problems, or other sources of the glitter that attracts to a magnet would be greatly appreciated. Also opinions on which brand oil pump/front case to buy in 2025 would be cool.
Thanks.
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