Oil in the coolant. Help. NOT HEADGASKET

[Nick2gGST]

So I had my headgasket done by a "reputable" (crappy shop). So everything was done right. I looked at it and the radiator cap has oil on top of it and on the elbow above the thermostat circled in picture below. The oil in my coolant is brand new oil i know, its not a milky color its not burnt its fresh oil. Also this happened right around the time I had my heater core bypassed, which was done by a REAL shop. I'm going to fix this car, EVERYTHING will be fixed then I'm going to sell it so if anyone wants it PM me. It's not overheating or anything its running perfect other then the oil thing.

 

[Nick2gGST]

The head was done professionally.

Yeah I believe it's the cooler too but i don't want to bypass the coolant I need the oil to be cooled, without having to do relocation's or or swap to air cooled.

I'm not getting into a debate about air or water cooled. But how can air cooled cool your engine if your stopped at red lights or have nothing but 30mph zones here, it won't get much air.

 

[BogusSVO]

you may just want to loop the cooler for a test period of time, that will let you know if that is it or not...

 

[Blaze2gDSM]

The technical term for the oil filter bracket is just that the oil filter bracket. You aren't going to find these parts at advanced don't even bother. Oil coolers are pricey so just check the classifieds. You should be able to find it there. There are two lines that connect to the cooler and one bolt behind the filter if you can't take the oil cooler off then you might as well just quit now and drive it to a shop. People are tryin to help you out not piss you off if you aren't just gonna listen then you really shouldn't post. reclipse gave you all the right info, pretty much down to a t.

 

[Nick2gGST]

yes he did and i considered it until he was a dick telling me i don't know about cars...just like you are suggesting "if i cant take those two hoses and bolt off then i might as well quit" it's not that i cant do it like i said for the 3rd friggen time, it's too damn hot outside at the moment, maybe tonight or tomorrow...and I heard the classified thing also a million times...I don't have down time with my car, I have a pregnant fiance, i need the car ready at all times so i don't have time to order an wait.

btw no its not blowing out any smoke.
its not overheating at all
the oil in the coolant is CLEAN brand new oil meaning not dirty brown old oil and it is not mixed with the coolant
usually but i don't know about always...the coolant and oil particals mix completely to look like coffee..that's usually a head gasket sign and right now its not mixed even though they are both in the reservoir.
You guys need to listen to what I am saying if you want me to listen to you guys...don't get on my back about it, it's kinda hypocritical. I appreciate the help.

 

[Nick2gGST]

oh btw, I heard it's not as easy as taking the oil filter bracket off. I heard you have to pull the crank pulley off and get a hard to reach bolt behind the timing belt cover.

 

[dsm8883]

Well appearently you are NOT reading thoroughly. It IS leaking internally, i CAN'T see anything leaking out because there is nothing coming out of the car it is oil going into my cooling system, not onto the ground....and I don't still have the cap, once I found out it was leaking I stopped driving the car (last night) I'm bringing the cap back to the store and getting another one for free. The thermostat gasket is leaking OIL only, and most likely because them mixing has made it very thin. Again it's leaking internally via most likely a crushed oil cooler. I unscrewed the oil filter a little just to get a small drop of oil to inspect it, it does seem like there is some coolant mixed in it. Hard to tell how to inspect the cooler...That's my only questions, How do I inspect it? And where can i get another one besides the dealer? Also a replacement guide would be helpful I can't find one in the search anywhere.

I know how to read and what I'm saying is your pissing me off and trying to sit here and tell me I don't know shit about cars because I don't want to work on cars myself on 120 degree f pavement? That'll be all you don't need to say anymore, go post elsewhere.

i live in fl and i am a tech i do it for a living what does the temp have to do with fixing your car? do what you have to do. if you did all the work your self you would not be on here asking dumb questions

 

[Nick2gGST]

I'm sure you don't do all your work at a little apartment outside with no shade.
Look I don't care you guys are making accusations and forcing me to point out stuff making it look like I'm bitching...Just help or get out. BUT I'm pretty sure we know what this problem is anyways, so why are you guys all still being assholes? I used to do all the work myself btw, but my ankles are all ####ed up and I have a bad back, and had to sell all of my tools because of the damn recession. I suppose we still want to argue about stuff right?

 

[donniekak]

The only way for oil to get on the outside of the housing without leaking water also is if it's leaking from the head and running down onto it. Is their any water in the oil? Pressure test the cooling system. Could you post up a picture of some drained coolant? I live in Arizona it was 117* yesterday and i work outside all of the time so don't complain to me about heat.

 

[Nick2gGST]

Donnie look what I said, I'm not complaining about just the heat. Not only that I'm from new england...so this is hot to me

There is no coolant in the oil.

And again! It is not leaking on the outside of the housing! it's going into the coolant reservoir...damn people.

 

[Blaze2gDSM]

If you are pulling the oil filter bracket yes you have to pull the dampener, the accessory belts and the water pump pulley it takes then minutes. If you are just pulling the cooler you do not have to remove the bracket. Just loosen the alternator pivot it bolt a little so you can rotate it up (may not even have to if you can make room) pull the filter and loosen the bolt behind it. Done project over either way 30 mins in the heat.

 

[Blaze2gDSM]

If you had read the vfaq on this you would already know. Its not about the housing leaking out, its about the fact that the shop could have tightened the bolt too tight and crushed the inner radiator of the cooler allowing oil and coolant to mix internally. You seem to be really sure the headgasket isn't the culprit even though you said the shop was garbage. There are only a few ways for oil and coolant to mix BogusSVO outlined every one. You have all the info you could possibly need, get some water and suck up the heat it ain't much colder in virginia.

 

[donniekak]

Donnie look what I said, I'm not complaining about just the heat. Not only that I'm from new england...so this is hot to me

There is no coolant in the oil.

And again! It is not leaking on the outside of the housing! it's going into the coolant reservoir...damn people.

Looking at the picture it shows the leak coming from the thermostat housing. Before you go spending money swapping parts, pressure test the system. Autozone rents the pressure tester i believe.

 

[Nick2gGST]

whats leaking from the housing is strictly oil, im not concerned about that, i'm concerned about how oil got there, I'm dropping it off at the GOOD shop tomorrow and they are going to do it with warrenties on parts and labor. Thanks blaze2g on your 2nd to last post...also again i have disabilities it's not as easy to work on the cars much anymore for me. I'll let you guys know how it goes, they are going to look it over and find the problem.

 

[lacroixdp]

.also again i have disabilities it's not as easy to work on the cars much anymore for me.

I'd say you bought the wrong car then. DSM's are not known for their reliability... perhaps you should sell it and buy a Corolla? Regardless, with your attitude above, I'm surprised you've gotten as much help as you've gotten already. The answers above - there's no point in posting anymore until you try the fixes recommended.

 

[Nick2gGST]

And I said I am trying the fixes recommended but assholes on here don't give me time to do that before giving there other options and saying stupid shit to me about how I'm not listening, you guys do know it's Sunday right? I can't just go to the shop, it's closed....So have some patience like i said in above posts I'm going to have it looked over and I will let you guys know from there. But I guess people have to be assholes to someone. This whole thread is over until I post the findings later.

 

[Nick2gGST]

I priced the oil cooler part# md167787 from mitsubishi 2 different dealerships and the cheapest was $445.

 

[Nick2gGST]

I called other dealership, they told me there is only three oil coolers left int he entire country!!! wow that suckssss. Can anyone supply me with some part numbers to convert to air cooled? Or the cheapest place to buy one new if there's a conversion kit for it?