new mobile 1 High-Endurance Motor Oils

[Mr96GSX408]

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance.aspx

Too good to be true?

 

[98GSX_MTX]

Well I could give a shit less about motor break in.

Your average healthy running motor doesn't need its oil changed every 3k especially with synthetic. Like I said my very aggresively driven ranger has 60k on it...and it has had 7 oil changes. It still runs like a top and still has perfect compression.

My GSX gets an oil change every 5k miles and I doubt it needs it.....140k miles and still perfect compression.

 

[Defiant]

If Mobil 1 was crap, I don't think cars like Corvettes, Vipers, Porche's would come from the factory with Mobil 1 synthetic oil.

If Mobil didn't pay companies to use Mobil 1, and paid them to say so, do you think the manufacturers would bother? Do you really think Duracells get used because they're better? Are all those names and stickers on NASCAR racers because the guys using the products are so proud of how well they work?

Oh, looky over there. It's the real world. Ooo, scary.

Oil is effing oil. Paying too much for it and using it for a third of its service life doesn't make it any better.

 

[Jehu]

Exactly. I posted about this before. If Mobil corp offered the major manufacturer's one free fill, I'm sure those companies would agree to have the oil in their car. Why would Mobil do that? Because the owner's would most likely stick with the oil since it already came with the car. Does that mean that Mobil 1 is the best thing since sliced bread? No, but it does mean that Mobil is a big corporation and Mobil 1 is good enough NOT to damage engines.

No matter what the commercials say, I would be wary of using the extended life Mobil 1 for a full year on a turbocharged car that's driven hard. No matter how good the detergent/VI improver/anti-oxidant package is, extended periods at high temperatures will consume those right up. Amsoil specifies a change interval of up to 3 times longer then factory, i.e. 9k miles, for their 20k mile oil formulation when used on turbocharged cars...I tend to agree.

It's funny how there are all these misconceptions floating around on what makes a good oil. You know what the biggest advantage of a PAO base oil is over a group III oil? It is able to carry a larger additive package! Ofcourse a PAO does have high film strength and high temperature resistance, but what gives a Group IV oil the long life is the additive package!

 

[WSU99GSX]

It sounds like this line is for the longer service times of newer cars. I don't know about you guys, but I would get worried leaving the same filter in that long, I usualy run about 4k on an oil change.

 

[heavyD]

I look at it like this EXXON/Mobile/Imperial Oil is the largest oil company in the world. They have oil/gas processing facilities all over the world and have spent billions on research & developement of synthetic oils. Are you going to trust your engine with them or oil made at a little facility in Wisconsin (Amsoil) that was developed by a fighter pilot?

 

[illuminatus]

I look at it like this EXXON/Mobile/Imperial Oil is the largest oil company in the world. They have oil/gas processing facilities all over the world and have spent billions on research & developement of synthetic oils. Are you going to trust your engine with them or oil made at a little facility in Wisconsin (Amsoil) that was developed by a fighter pilot?

Are you going to trust your new expensive network with the largest software company in the world (Microsoft specifically Windows) or are you going to trust the underdogs who write code in their spare time (OSDL, Linus, specifically Linux)?

I'll go with Linux, thanks. Not a very good analogy on your part.

 

[heavyD]

Are you going to trust your new expensive network with the largest software company in the world (Microsoft specifically Windows) or are you going to trust the underdogs who write code in their spare time (OSDL, Linus, specifically Linux)?

I'll go with Linux, thanks. Not a very good analogy on your part.

I'll go with Microsoft (and I'm a Mac user), as do the majority. I think your analogy is poor. Software isn't processed and doesn't involve a manufacturing process. I work in the gas/refinery industry and I've been in Shell & Imperial Oil plants as well as all the little joe/blow oil company plants and there is a huge difference in quality of equipment as well as quality control and plant conditions.

I'm not saying Amsoil is not a good product but I have a hard time believing that they even have 5% of the resources or equipment available to develope a better oil than Mobile.

 

[Jehu]

Just like how automakers like GM must make a better car because they have WAY more resources then McLaren, Lotus, Aston Martin etc right?

 

[illuminatus]

I'll go with Microsoft (and I'm a Mac user), as do the majority. I think your analogy is poor. Software isn't processed and doesn't involve a manufacturing process. I work in the gas/refinery industry and I've been in Shell & Imperial Oil plants as well as all the little joe/blow oil company plants and there is a huge difference in quality of equipment as well as quality control and plant conditions.

I'm not saying Amsoil is not a good product but I have a hard time believing that they even have 5% of the resources or equipment available to develope a better oil than Mobile.

No but software goes through a definative design process and productino process. The project leads and coders at Microsoft make poor decisions and write sloppy code. Now if you want to trust your critical infastructure to Microsoft go ahead. However, not even DSM Tuners trust Microsoft for their website. So there you go:

http://dsmtuners.com was running Apache on Linux

 

[spyder97gs]

Are you going to trust your new expensive network with the largest software company in the world (Microsoft specifically Windows) or are you going to trust the underdogs who write code in their spare time (OSDL, Linus, specifically Linux)?

I'll go with Linux, thanks. Not a very good analogy on your part.

Being an avid Slackware user, I have to agree

Oil only needs to be changed in theory. Who here has really lost a motor to dirty oil? I had a car than ran forever, and I neglected to ever change the oil in the 50k I put on the car, sold it at just over 150k on the motor. Sure, tons of people have lost motors to NO oil, but that is neglect on a different level.

I'm not saying oil doesn't need to be changed, as I change the oil in my DSM atleast every 3k, usually sooner to help minimize HLA tick. But speaking from my past with different oils, there is no huge difference in the way motor oils will make your engine perform. I personally have had success using Pennziol 10w30, and keeping my HLA tick at minimum. I'll get flamed for these comments, but im just laying my opinion out on the table.

 

[Defiant]

And yet again, we've proven that oil doesn't matter as much as thinking oil matters.

 

[vtracer20]

Hey has anyone tried this 5000, 7500 and 15k motor oil from mobil one. I dont know if it's a scam or what but i wouldn't mind trying those out so i dont have to worry about a oil change for a while. Let me know. Thanks

 

[tigmandick]

Even tho the oil says i it lasts longer it the filter isn't good for thats kind of mileage plus the oil after a extended period of time is carrying a large amount of hydrocarbon byproduct's "the stuff that makes it turn black" i would just keep the 15 w30 or what ever your are using.

 

[cuttheduck]

Many newer cars have intervals that long on "regular old" synthetic. Hell, they always said regular syn. mobil1 would be good for 5-10 thousand. I think this new reformulated stuff is more of a ploy to increase sales then anything special over regular synthetic.

 

[EclipseGSX012]

i dont like the idea of putting those oils. damn not getting the oil change for that long is just weird..

 

[boostedgst2984]

ok i just bought the new mobil 1 full synethic 15K oil from parts store. Any one have any comments on this actually good for 15K. Mobil one guarentees this oil to last for 15K or they will pay for whatever breaks on ur car as a result from the oil. So let me hear some input from u guys to see if i should still change it at 4K like i nomally do or let it last longer cuz its only was a few buxs more for this stuff.

Dan

 

[marcmsj]

i personally wouldn't trust oil used for that long, especially in a turbocharged car. turbos can be really picky about the oil it is fed. sure, mobil 1 might claim to fix this or that, but until you prove it was because of the oil, you'll be 95 years old.

i would just stick to the "regular" oil, synthetic or not, and change within the 3-4k mile interval.

 

[My90TSIAWD]

Ok.. I work for Mobil 1 and I would say that the 15k mile oil is a great oil for your everyday driving newer car. I however would not recomend using it in your car that is turbocharged. If you do use it in your turbo car then you should change it atleast at the most 5k miles.

I use nothing but Mobil 1 oils in my vehicles and change my oil evey 2500k miles. But thats just how I am.

Hope this helps you.

 

[dmorris05]

I use the same oil the Mobil one full sythetic but my car has 92000 miles on it so i wouldnt trust the oil past 3k miles even though it is 6 dollars a quart, but thats just me i change mine every 2500 also. So I guess it also depends on how many miles your car has on it too.

 

[rowlex]

this isnt anything scientific...(and on my AWD i change the oil at 3K no matter what) but on my beaters I change the oil when it starts looking nasty/dark. Maybe something to consider.

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

Oil DOES NOT WEAR OUT. Not after 3k miles, not after 300k miles, what happens is that the ADDITIVES disappear. The 15k oil might have more additives, but even then you still need to change your filter (which gets dirty after 3k miles or so). Honestly I wouldnt take a chance with trying to save a few bucks on oil changes, and have it cost you a turbo. I would change at 3k religiously, and sooner if you take it to the track alot, one small metal fragment is enough to screw up a bearing easily. Don't go cheap on the one thing that will save your engine.

 

[boostedgst2984]

hey man wasnt trying to get cheep or anything i was just curious was all. I change my oil at every 3 - 4K depending on time issues. I always use the best fluids and never cheep out on fluids.

Thanks for the input guys

Dan

 

[glennerd87]

i have talked to many mechanics and they all say synthetic is crap only use real oil, thats what i've always used and it does good. i've never tried sythetic tho.

 

[Defiant]

At its introduction, Mitsubishi recommended oil changes at 5,000 mile intervals on the 4G63T. That was about five generations of oil ago. 15,000 should be no great feat for what's been done since.
CHP runs its cruisers 8,000 miles between changes, on normal oil. It's pretty unlikely any DSM owner is as rough on his car as a cop is on the State's.

 

[HexKrak]

I would have to say that I probibly run my car as rough or rougher than any police around, just not as many hours a day. Personaly I'm lookin at usin some form of syntheic oil this next change. But I seem to be loosing 1 qt every 3000 miles atm and I'd like to put in a stop leak. Would stopleak + synth make a bad combination? Or is that something the synth oil is supposed to do anyway?