My 1g BOV vents without any problem??

[Race94]

Well i'm ventong my BOV wich my mechanic crushed and it is giving me no problems with gas, idle etc. Is this possible?

Also it sounds really cool don't know why, i'll get a sound clip here soon.

 

[midnght]

Yes, it is possible.

The venting problems do not happen to everyone. It is hit or miss. Kinda like putting a testpipe in before the 2nd o2 sensor. Some get a CEL, some don't.


It's a DSM thang!

 

[paranoidTSi]

You might not get the idle/gas problem (I don't either) but in either event you still have a bad fuel to air ratio between shifts.

 

[FourG63 97GST]

you still have a bad fuel to air ratio between shifts.

hmm, but the TB is closed, so this matters because

 

[Eclipse96Ryder]

hmm, but the TB is closed, so this matters because

makes u bog when u shift

 

[paranoidTSi]

because the air traveling through your vented bov does not return to the intake, the ECU EXPECTS this return..if its not there you will have more fuel than you do air which equals running rich.

 

[VBGSX]

Or that cool sound he's getting could be compressor surge because just maybe his mechanic crushed it to much and now it's not opening properly.
That would also possibly explain why it's running right(all the air it there...)

 

[Defiant]

hmm, but the TB is closed, so this matters because

...when you open the throttle plate again, you get a nice oil-flushing blast of over-rich mixture.

It's okay, though. You can take better care of your new rings and pistons.

 

[DSMNightmare]

No problems here been venting on two seperate DSMs for over three years. Then again I used the SSQV so I'm not sure if that matters because it's a pull type.

 

[boostedinaz]

Here we go.

Great you car runs somewhat well. I bet it would run better if it was setup the right way. Then again, I guess a car that is setup properly and doesnt make funny noises won't impress the ricers, so I see your point.

Michael



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[DSMNightmare]

Here we go.

Great you car runs somewhat well. I bet it would run better if it was setup the right way. Then again, I guess a car that is setup properly and doesnt make funny noises won't impress the ricers, so I see your point.

Michael



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Yeah your right, I guess I'm not set up to be the high 13 second speed rocket that you are, so I guess I'll have to live with myself. If you had a clue you would realize that the SSQV does not make that funny pshhht noise that much when you run a larger turbo. On the T25 it popped off all the time but on the 20G it rarely makes noise.

Please comment more and show me the DSM God you are because sarcasm is always productive. FYI I have ran the car both with and without and it makes no difference in my times. Like the first guy said it's a hit or miss process.

 

[boostedinaz]

Yeah your right, I guess I'm not set up to be the high 13 second speed rocket that you are, so I guess I'll have to live with myself. If you had a clue you would realize that the SSQV does not make that funny pshhht noise that much when you run a larger turbo. On the T25 it popped off all the time but on the 20G it rarely makes noise.

Please comment more and show me the DSM God you are because sarcasm is always productive. FYI I have ran the car both with and without and it makes no difference in my times. Like the first guy said it's a hit or miss process.

Good logic. My time slip for my car equals my knowledge on them. I dont see what the SSQ has to do with anything in this thread. He has a 1G crushed not a SSQ and since you car is faster, then you must be smarter, so you should know that it doesnt matter if it is a push or pull type that affects the car. It is the fact of metered air not being used, but with your fast car you knew that. Yes it does depend on the car, but I dont see the point unless you are just trying to impress people and let them know something that it obvious, you have a turbo. Plus why would all the big companies make a BOV that returns or a kit, like for you SSQ, that will make it return if it wasnt recommended? This has been gone over since the first ricer realized he could make cool noises with his car and we are beating a dead horse. You car does it well, so you and a hadnful of other will be put in the DSM hall of fame for you timeslip based knowledge.

Michael


I see were all you anger comes from. Your mods list is very nice I just wish I could say the same for your timeslip, since that, apperently, is what is important.

 

[greathuskie]

ok seriously weve had this argument 100000 times, if you want to vent then DO IT, you should know the consequences of it by now

 

[DSMNightmare]

Good logic. My time slip for my car equals my knowledge on them. I dont see what the SSQ has to do with anything in this thread. He has a 1G crushed not a SSQ and since you car is faster, then you must be smarter, so you should know that it doesnt matter if it is a push or pull type that affects the car. It is the fact of metered air not being used, but with your fast car you knew that. Yes it does depend on the car, but I dont see the point unless you are just trying to impress people and let them know something that it obvious, you have a turbo. Plus why would all the big companies make a BOV that returns or a kit, like for you SSQ, that will make it return if it wasnt recommended? This has been gone over since the first ricer realized he could make cool noises with his car and we are beating a dead horse. You car does it well, so you and a hadnful of other will be put in the DSM hall of fame for you timeslip based knowledge.

Michael

So essentially what your saying is that running slower and talking crap is much better than running decent and commenting on the fact that I have no problems. Your right this is beating a dead horse because all this ends up with is both sides fighting over which is the right way to do it. I will also agree with you that I would NEVER run a 1G BOV vented. I'm sorry I did not notice that part of the thread.

The thing I don't like is when people talk shit about things they read about rather than what they have experience with. You can talk physics until your blue in the face but it still wont prove anything until it runs down the track.

Just like you don't like ricers I don't like to listen to people who only talk about whats on paper rather than those who have tested thier theories on the track. No I don't give two shits about people hearing my car but who cares if I did? It still does not give you the right to come in here and start calling people ricers because they like particular sound.

 

[Race94]

i am no ricer be sure of that, neither is my mechanic, the BOV was crushed without me knowing, i had it recircling and they crushed it because he said it was leaking, now these guys have an 11 sec 95 GST a full car almost, they are the best DSM tuners here and i don't think they would do this if it causes any real problems. Sometimes i read and people get too technical about things and i think i trust these guys know what they are doing, heck i've read of people here investing a lot of money to run 12's and how impossible it is to run a 13 sec FWD without LSd slicks etc and so on.

Thanks for the replies tough, i'll get the sound clips and you tell me if it sounds bad or what, meaning if it may be damaged.

 

[boostedinaz]

Thanks for the replies tough, i'll get the sound clips and you tell me if it sounds bad or what, meaning if it may be damaged.

If you trust them then why would it be damaged. They know what they are doing, right??? Like I said timeslips do not equate to knowledge. If you are comfortable with them working on your car then great, but dont just take everything they do as gospel becasue they have a fast car. This board is a huge resources and filled with a ton of knowledge. Do a search on venting and see what you come up with. The results will overwhelming. 99% of the DSM community know that there are ill effects from venting and that is why we frown upon threads like this. There are a handful of people that have done it and say there are no problems, but there only proof is that they have a fast car, and that is no proff at all.

I want to see back to back dyno runs logged with a wide band to get real numbers, but I doubt they will do that. Good motoring.

Michael

 

[DSMNightmare]

If you trust them then why would it be damaged. They know what they are doing, right??? Like I said timeslips do not equate to knowledge. If you are comfortable with them working on your car then great, but dont just take everything they do as gospel becasue they have a fast car. This board is a huge resources and filled with a ton of knowledge. Do a search on venting and see what you come up with. The results will overwhelming. 99% of the DSM community know that there are ill effects from venting and that is why we frown upon threads like this. There are a handful of people that have done it and say there are no problems, but there only proof is that they have a fast car, and that is no proff at all.

I want to see back to back dyno runs logged with a wide band to get real numbers, but I doubt they will do that. Good motoring.

Michael

Ok see thats just plain supidity because you contradict yourself right here. You say that between shifts is where the ill effects take place. Well on the dyno you do not shift because all your runs are done in 3rd gear pull. I know this because I have over 20 pulls on the dyno to date. I know this is not a large number but I'm just getting started. You should not speak for 99% of the DSM community when you don't know what the hell you are talking about. OK you say timeslips are a bad way to equate knowlege but yet you have been here for two years and the best you can lay down is 13.8? Some people who have knowlege actually choose to put it to use instead of putting other people down.

Fact is almost every thread about this topic ends up in a debate rather than any real facts getting laid down. Mods need to close this shit because this is just turning into a pissing match. All I did was comment on my rusults and boostedinAZ had to get her panties in a bunch and come start shit for no reason.

 

[DSM_GSX4life]

what about getting a MAF translator to solve some of the problems????? and also about the "cool BOV sound" i happened to like it. It does not have anything to do with impressing people. Its part of having a turbo in my opinion..

 

[jamie8dc]

I like how boostedinaz completely dropped the argument and tried to help the kid out, and then Nightmare follows up with yet more bashing at him? Drop it dude, damn. :thumbdown

 

[1stGENracer]

I like pointing out that I have a turbo with a loud BOV. Sound off when someone pulls next to me while driving down the road trying to get me to race, then they hear that sound, and usually back off(actually keeps me out of trouble).

But since my BOV is loud, I guess I'm a ricer now.

 

[DSMNightmare]

Actually there was a suttle hint of sarcasm in the last post. I guess you missed it. I'm usually not this big of an ass about things. It just comes from two people feeling very strongly about the opposite sides of the topic. I'm not trying to fight here but rather debate. Maybe I'm coming off a little harsh. I get that way sometimes. Sorry

 

[1stGENracer]

i am no ricer be sure of that, neither is my mechanic, the BOV was crushed without me knowing, i had it recircling and they crushed it because he said it was leaking, now these guys have an 11 sec 95 GST a full car almost, they are the best DSM tuners here and i don't think they would do this if it causes any real problems. Sometimes i read and people get too technical about things and i think i trust these guys know what they are doing, heck i've read of people here investing a lot of money to run 12's and how impossible it is to run a 13 sec FWD without LSd slicks etc and so on.

Thanks for the replies tough, i'll get the sound clips and you tell me if it sounds bad or what, meaning if it may be damaged.

Well if its making a fluttering type sound, then its probably not opening, and you have compressor surge.

 

[boostedinaz]

Ok see thats just plain supidity because you contradict yourself right here. You say that between shifts is where the ill effects take place. Well on the dyno you do not shift because all your runs are done in 3rd gear pull. I know this because I have over 20 pulls on the dyno to date. I know this is not a large number but I'm just getting started. You should not speak for 99% of the DSM community when you don't know what the hell you are talking about. OK you say timeslips are a bad way to equate knowlege but yet you have been here for two years and the best you can lay down is 13.8? Some people who have knowlege actually choose to put it to use instead of putting other people down.

Fact is almost every thread about this topic ends up in a debate rather than any real facts getting laid down. Mods need to close this shit because this is just turning into a pissing match. All I did was comment on my rusults and boostedinAZ had to get her panties in a bunch and come start shit for no reason.

You can shift on a dyno. Common sense would tell you that you would need to do this for a test of this nature. That is not a contradiction by any means its just you not understand the physics of the test. I will say this again for the slower people. THIS IS NOT MY ONLY CAR. since you like to read my profile you would see that it says parts to bolt on my 20G. That would lead me be to believe that I had it on another car perhaps a FWD car that is listed on my sig. You attention to detail in impecable, moron. If I dont know what I am talking about then why doesn every thread like this tell peopel to quit venting? i am not speaking for 99% of the community I am expressing what I KNOW and what alot of others know. It was said in this thread before I posted that venting is not helpful to perofmance and will actually hinder performance. You actually commented on your situation then came back and decided to try and make me look like I dont know what I am talking about. Look here.

Yeah your right, I guess I'm not set up to be the high 13 second speed rocket that you are, so I guess I'll have to live with myself. If you had a clue you would realize that the SSQV does not make that funny pshhht noise that much when you run a larger turbo. On the T25 it popped off all the time but on the 20G it rarely makes noise.

Please comment more and show me the DSM God you are because sarcasm is always productive. FYI I have ran the car both with and without and it makes no difference in my times. Like the first guy said it's a hit or miss process.

Dont try and back out and act like I just went off on you for your response.

So to summerize and end it. I have facts backing up my argument and you have nothing backing up yours, but I am the one who doesnt know what I am talking about. We will solve this right now. You go make your 21 and 22 pull with a wideband, and yes you can shift it on a dyno, and we will see if the A/F stays smooth or fluctuates. If it stays smooth you have won and all the venters will chear in victory and you will be there champion. If not then we are all back to were we started. I am through arguing with you. we have told the guy are opinions and I have set forth a challenge to prove what you are saying is correct, so go for it.

Michael

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

If you "think" your car runs good vented so be it.