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Well let me first sate the If your stupid try this . If your not stupid you have nothing to worry about. This is very dangrous, you can blow up your house, children, car, garage,washing machine,ect.

Im not to be held accountable for anything you do.


Things you will need.

5 gallons of 93 oct gas (you can use less and lower oct amounts but its less potent)
a big pot (like a vat or crock)
a garden hose
a gaint strainer
paint thinner
paint stripper
2 2.5 gal containers of 87 oct gas
cheese grater
plastic wrappers the come on single slices of cheese.
24oz of coragated card board
a wagon wheel
bunson burner
knowleged of the dangers of flamable liquids
10 gal container to store your race gas.
5 gallon air tight container
washing machine you can use for a day
Old hot water tank
16lbs of wood chips
600v 1.25 amp dual elelment fuses
cargo pants
clip board
small shovel
access to a 8ft platform




Well now that you have ALL the above mentioned you can get started.

Take the 93 oct gas and pour those 5 gallons into the 10 gal container.
Take these items:
a big pot (like a vat or crock)
a garden hose
a gaint strainer
paint thinner
paint stripper
cheese grater
plastic wrappers the come on single slices of cheese.
24oz of coragated card board
a wagon wheel
bunson burner
knowleged of the dangers of flamable liquids
10 gal container to store your race gas.
5 gallon air tight container
washing machine you can use for a day
Old hot water tank
16lbs of wood chips
600v 1.25 amp dual elelment fuses
cargo pants
clip board
small shovel
access to a 8ft platform

and put on a table in your kitchen or selected work area.
Fire up the bunson burner and start to heat up the cheese grater to a red glow.

Put the paint thinner into the vat. Also do the same with the stripper.
Once the cheese grater is heated up red let it cool back to room temp again. (set aside you will need it later)

Put on the cargo pants I mentioned above and gather the plastic wrappers from the single sliced cheeses.

Put those in the vat also and mix untill disolved.
Take the 5 gallon container and put it in the washing machine. Disconnect the water supply and let it cycle so it shakes up the mixture of thinner/stripper/plastic wrap into a liquid.

Done? Good.

take the one 2.5 gals of 87 oct and put it in the 10 gal container.
grab the 5 gal container out of the washing machine and set the cheese grater inside of it, Then lid isnt required so disgard it. Use the 24 oz of carb board on the grater, untill its all passed though the cheese grater once and its in the mixture you made in the washing machine.

Now you should have two containers as of now.

one 2.5 gallons of 87 oct left
one 10 gallon container with 5 gallons of 93 oct and 2.5 gallons of 87.

And the two together.
You now have 267 oct gas in your 10 gallon container.
(87oct + 93oct + 87 oct)
Its also still unleaded unless you didnt follow my instructions to the T.

Enjoy.

Hope this can be added to the VFAQ or sticky or something.
 
Cool, so if i would add one 16oz container of this mix, i'd be looking at a octain level of 9?.? whn used with 92 oct pump gas.
 
TurboXtalon said:
Cool, so if i would add one 16oz container of this mix, i'd be looking at a octain level of 9?.? whn used with 92 oct pump gas.

that's cool guy!! go for it!!

good luck!
 
my dad is friends with some british guy who makes his own 114+ octane unleaded gas

my dad and him are both chemists, go figure....

anyways, his lotus esprit is pretty famous.... let me see if i can find any links about him again...


if anyone can think of his name, go ahead and say it... he owns a 1994 red lotus esprit with about 42k miles on it,... its a turbo, but of corse all my dad got from it was, it was fast and made this weird sound when he shifted....
 
That sounds almost legit, but im to scared to try it. You do it and tell me how it goes...
 
I did not look at the site. But I myself have personally used xylene from Sherwin williams/lowes, etc. You can get it at any paint place, But it is cheaper to buy in bulk, Then in gallons. You mix one gallon to every 3 gallons of gas. The more you mixed, The higher your octane would be.. You can also use toulene, Which is in gas already if you did not know that. It is not as strong as xylene though. You can mix a lubricating liquid/solvent into the mix also, But I have never done that. I just used straight xylene.
 
so toulene is paint thinner and what is xylene? Or would i just go into a paint store and as for a case of xylene? Then i would take 3 gallons of gas and mix it with 1 gallon of xylene or paint thinner and maybe add some automatic transmission fluid for lubrication then i would have a cheap version of race fuel? Also, will that harm my car in any way at all? And What would happen if i mixed the xylene and gas at a 1:1 ratio? just curious:confused:
 
2DaTrakNow said:
so toulene is paint thinner and what is xylene? Or would i just go into a paint store and as for a case of xylene? Then i would take 3 gallons of gas and mix it with 1 gallon of xylene or paint thinner and maybe add some automatic transmission fluid for lubrication then i would have a cheap version of race fuel? Also, will that harm my car in any way at all? And What would happen if i mixed the xylene and gas at a 1:1 ratio? just curious:confused:

If you mixed a 1:1 ratio your octane would most likly be through the roof. Also, If you use it constantly, You may harm something, Or it may eat away your lines as it is thinner. I never had any problems though. I just used straight xylene. You can buy it in a gallon, Or you can actually but it in bigger containers. I do not mean buy 4 gallons, I mean buy a ''barrell'' so to speak. Not a 55gal drum or something crazy like that though. Also, When I useto buy it I was younger, And actually was questioned about what I need it for. I had to lie and say it was for my parents as they are re-doing the house:coy: If you're young, You'll probably get asked for ID, And you may get questioned. Never tell them you are using it in your vehicle, For obvious reasons....
 
1993eclipseGS said:
If you mixed a 1:1 ratio your octane would most likly be through the roof. Also, If you use it constantly, You may harm something, Or it may eat away your lines as it is thinner. I never had any problems though. I just used straight xylene. You can buy it in a gallon, Or you can actually but it in bigger containers. I do not mean buy 4 gallons, I mean buy a ''barrell'' so to speak. Not a 55gal drum or something crazy like that though. Also, When I useto buy it I was younger, And actually was questioned about what I need it for. I had to lie and say it was for my parents as they are re-doing the house:coy: If you're young, You'll probably get asked for ID, And you may get questioned. Never tell them you are using it in your vehicle, For obvious reasons....

well that sucks because im only 17! I hate this stuff, i remember once a few years ago i went into wal-mart to buy some paint for my model car with my grandma. I handed the cashier my bottle of paint, and she handed it back to me, and made my grandma hand it to her! I mean...is an innocent 13 year old really going to get high off of paint? or is a 19 year old druggy that can buy the paint going to get high off of it? I guess rules are rules though, ill just have my 18 year old friend buy it:shhh:

Also, is xylene just a different type of paint thinner? And would this stuff be safe to run with nitrous?
 
2DaTrakNow said:
well that sucks because im only 17! I hate this stuff, i remember once a few years ago i went into wal-mart to buy some paint for my model car with my grandma. I handed the cashier my bottle of paint, and she handed it back to me, and made my grandma hand it to her! I mean...is an innocent 13 year old really going to get high off of paint? or is a 19 year old druggy that can buy the paint going to get high off of it? I guess rules are rules though, ill just have my 18 year old friend buy it:shhh:

Also, is xylene just a different type of paint thinner? And would this stuff be safe to run with nitrous?

The shop I go to mixes some seafoam, 93 octane, toluene, and some injector cleaner to make make your car run like a beast.
 
ilikespeeding said:
The shop I go to mixes some seafoam, 93 octane, toluene, and some injector cleaner to make make your car run like a beast.

does sea foam actually add power, or just clean out the system? Also, wouldnt it be better to use xylene instead of toluene?

One more question, and i know that nobody can give me "exact" results until i actually try it, but...just for an example. Lets say my car has 200 hp, and i dump racing fuel into it. What kind of an icrease could i expect on average?
 
2DaTrakNow said:
does sea foam actually add power, or just clean out the system? Also, wouldnt it be better to use xylene instead of toluene?

One more question, and i know that nobody can give me "exact" results until i actually try it, but...just for an example. Lets say my car has 200 hp, and i dump racing fuel into it. What kind of an icrease could i expect on average?

Just running the higher octane fuel itself wont give you any gains if your car isnt seeking any knock on regular gas. Gains come from your car being able to run at peak efficiency, ie not knocking at all, and getting higher timing which would be a result of running the race fuel. Your gains will all depend on how "well" your engine is already running. Could be 20 hp or could only be 2.
 
2DaTrakNow said:
does sea foam actually add power, or just clean out the system? Also, wouldnt it be better to use xylene instead of toluene?

One more question, and i know that nobody can give me "exact" results until i actually try it, but...just for an example. Lets say my car has 200 hp, and i dump racing fuel into it. What kind of an icrease could i expect on average?

The extra exhaust adds some umph to turbo'd cars.
 
2DaTrakNow said:
does sea foam actually add power, or just clean out the system?
All Sea Foam or MCCC does is clean, and by doing so will also remove any carbon "hotspots" which may cause premature ignition (knock).

One more question, and i know that nobody can give me "exact" results until i actually try it, but...just for an example. Lets say my car has 200 hp, and i dump racing fuel into it. What kind of an icrease could i expect on average?
If car is running without knock, race gas by itself will not increase horsepower. What it does is allow you to run leaner mixtures/more boost/higher ignition advance before onset of knock which (if properly tuned) can drastically increase your car's HP potential :dsm:

ilikespeeding said:
The extra exhaust adds some umph to turbo'd cars
ummmm... no WTF

:dsm:
 
DSM90AWD said:
ummmm... no WTF

:dsm:

They have dynos to prove it. Have you seen the amount of exhaust pouring from the tip when you use seafoam? They have three runs with a VR4 before seafoam running like 380 to the wheels, then they have during the seafoam of something like 395, then afterward of 385 or something like that. I dont remember the exact numbers. The conditions where pretty much the same, with warm motor. Granted, there are differences in runs but I doubt that seafoams exhaust didnt aid in boost.
 
ilikespeeding said:
They have dynos to prove it. Have you seen the amount of exhaust pouring from the tip when you use seafoam? They have three runs with a VR4 before seafoam running like 380 to the wheels, then they have during the seafoam of something like 395, then afterward of 385 or something like that. I dont remember the exact numbers. The conditions where pretty much the same, with warm motor. Granted, there are differences in runs but I doubt that seafoams exhaust didnt aid in boost.

Seafoam is a detergent used to remove carbon deposits from the pistons and valves (less knock) and clean injectors (better spray pattern/flow). That in itself could easily account for minor increases in HP.

I've never heard of it used as a regular treatment for performance nor octane booster and the absence of any such claims on their WEBSITE seems to support this.

In simplistic terms exhaust is created by the combustion of air/fuel in the cylinders. Adding an octane booster (or Seafoam Detergent) to your gas will not directly increase the amount of air or fuel you consume. Indirectly, yes :dsm:
 
Thinking about it, you should be right. Unless, seafoam breaks down into smaller particles during combustion. Then exhaust flow would change.
 
I would watch out about mixing your own race fuel. There was a kid in Quebec that did that with his Cavalier and guess what happened next, BOOM! Im not joking. The Car blew up and klled the kid instantly. They couldn't even find his body.

Look it up on Google.

Seriously, just pull out the wallet and pay for some good ole' C16 race gas.
 
Thats because it was a dumb a$$ trying to race a CAVALIER! I'll bet you he was running nitrous and was just an ignorant person who obviously didn't know what he was doing if he tried to modify a car like that for performance in the first place.
 
My dad is in construction so he adds xylen to stuff, he was the one that told me you could use it and make race gas. Im going to try it when my car is back up and running...
 
I've used Xylene before to make race gas and I was at first a little worried. I was very surprised though with how much smoother that engine felt though, especially when being rev'd. It's true that if you use it alot then you will start to strip the fuel system, but most people like to add Marvin's Mystery Oil to keep the fuel system lubricated. The mixture I used was 4 gallons of 93 to 1 gallon of Xylene with a bottle of MMO. I was just testing it out so that's why I didn't fill a whole tank but, basically the 20% mixture worked good for me.
 
I've heard very good results with mixing varying amounts of E85 (~105 Octane) with premium gas. Now that it's avail in many states at the pump (and cheep as 87octane) prol a better DIY race gas ;)

Would have to richen the mixture based on the amount you add though since Ethanol is oxygenated (Stoich 9.7:1 vs 14.65 for gasoline) :dsm:
 
So I've read a couple of threads dealing with creating race gas from Xylene or Toulene. This would really help me out since the highest octane we got over here is 92. I'm currently using 91 and the knock is killing me (I'm knocking at 15psi :mad:).
Did anybody actually go through with this and done it?
If so, how are you supposed to mix them anyways? Do you pour them individually into the gastank. First the gasoline and then the additive (xylene or toulene)? Or are you supposed to put them both into a container and then mix them with a spoon or someting:D before putting the mixture into the tank?
 
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