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Well let me first sate the If your stupid try this . If your not stupid you have nothing to worry about. This is very dangrous, you can blow up your house, children, car, garage,washing machine,ect.

Im not to be held accountable for anything you do.


Things you will need.

5 gallons of 93 oct gas (you can use less and lower oct amounts but its less potent)
a big pot (like a vat or crock)
a garden hose
a gaint strainer
paint thinner
paint stripper
2 2.5 gal containers of 87 oct gas
cheese grater
plastic wrappers the come on single slices of cheese.
24oz of coragated card board
a wagon wheel
bunson burner
knowleged of the dangers of flamable liquids
10 gal container to store your race gas.
5 gallon air tight container
washing machine you can use for a day
Old hot water tank
16lbs of wood chips
600v 1.25 amp dual elelment fuses
cargo pants
clip board
small shovel
access to a 8ft platform




Well now that you have ALL the above mentioned you can get started.

Take the 93 oct gas and pour those 5 gallons into the 10 gal container.
Take these items:
a big pot (like a vat or crock)
a garden hose
a gaint strainer
paint thinner
paint stripper
cheese grater
plastic wrappers the come on single slices of cheese.
24oz of coragated card board
a wagon wheel
bunson burner
knowleged of the dangers of flamable liquids
10 gal container to store your race gas.
5 gallon air tight container
washing machine you can use for a day
Old hot water tank
16lbs of wood chips
600v 1.25 amp dual elelment fuses
cargo pants
clip board
small shovel
access to a 8ft platform

and put on a table in your kitchen or selected work area.
Fire up the bunson burner and start to heat up the cheese grater to a red glow.

Put the paint thinner into the vat. Also do the same with the stripper.
Once the cheese grater is heated up red let it cool back to room temp again. (set aside you will need it later)

Put on the cargo pants I mentioned above and gather the plastic wrappers from the single sliced cheeses.

Put those in the vat also and mix untill disolved.
Take the 5 gallon container and put it in the washing machine. Disconnect the water supply and let it cycle so it shakes up the mixture of thinner/stripper/plastic wrap into a liquid.

Done? Good.

take the one 2.5 gals of 87 oct and put it in the 10 gal container.
grab the 5 gal container out of the washing machine and set the cheese grater inside of it, Then lid isnt required so disgard it. Use the 24 oz of carb board on the grater, untill its all passed though the cheese grater once and its in the mixture you made in the washing machine.

Now you should have two containers as of now.

one 2.5 gallons of 87 oct left
one 10 gallon container with 5 gallons of 93 oct and 2.5 gallons of 87.

And the two together.
You now have 267 oct gas in your 10 gallon container.
(87oct + 93oct + 87 oct)
Its also still unleaded unless you didnt follow my instructions to the T.

Enjoy.

Hope this can be added to the VFAQ or sticky or something.
 
i put some aviation feul in with some 92 octane and i knoticed tha it pulled better in the higher RPMS. it was knoticable, as my car pulled upto redline and seemed to rev easier.
im not saying it added power, but at night the car just felt and was performing better. i did back to back runs against my buddys civic and knoticed that while i was on the aviation fuel there was atleat 1 1/2 car larger gap between us on average. :D so i went from leaving him behind by 5 cars to almost 7.
 
Mike1992 said:
So i guess I need to stop buying 91 and use 87?
Mabey....the manual says that the N/t's run optiamally on 87, and the turbos are optimized for 91 octane use
 
Redmachine said:
Mabey....the manual says that the N/t's run optiamally on 87, and the turbos are optimized for 91 octane use

Don't forget that carbon deposits increase compression ratios, necessitating higher octane.
 
Running higher octane only burns cleaner and faster for us. As said above, the only way to see gains with higher octane is with forced induction or high compression. The only gains are in your mind b/c you want them to be there. You MIGHT get like 1-2 HP if you went high enough with it. :thumbdown
 
i didnt say i gained hp. the car just pulled better than before, alot smoother. its almost the same effect as how much better a car drives after a tuneup. and from 4500-7000rpm the car pulled better than before. off of it the car seems not to rev as easy. its not giving hp, but it seems to free some up.
 
Damn 2nd Gear said:
i didnt say i gained hp. the car just pulled better than before, alot smoother. its almost the same effect as how much better a car drives after a tuneup. and from 4500-7000rpm the car pulled better than before. off of it the car seems not to rev as easy. its not giving hp, but it seems to free some up.

It burns cleaner. I can see that helping. Possibly. I wasn't trying to post in a way to prove you wrong or anything, just to be informative. :thumb: Hell, I've used some octane booster before. I think it's a good idea to run that or fuel system cleaner around every oil change. :thumb:
 
no offense taken. but on a side note i knotice that if i put REALLY cheap gas like ARCO in my car the 87 junk the car is a dog. but cheveron is sooo smoooth in her.
 
Hey guys I was just expermenting with this homemade race gas idea and I was wondering where you can buy pure toluene from so I can mix up a batch and give it a whirl. Thanks for any help.
 
9D9 MITSU RS said:
Running higher octane only burns cleaner and faster for us. As said above, the only way to see gains with higher octane is with forced induction or high compression. The only gains are in your mind b/c you want them to be there. You MIGHT get like 1-2 HP if you went high enough with it. :thumbdown

i think thats what a lot of "gains" are... in your head cuz you want it to be faster. just like when people say "it pulls harder with the new spark plugs" :rolleyes:
 
ya and i buy this stuff from summit and pour it in my gas and it makes the exhaust smell like fruit. no joke they really do have it
 
GSXpower said:
Hey guys I was just expermenting with this homemade race gas idea and I was wondering where you can buy pure toluene from so I can mix up a batch and give it a whirl. Thanks for any help.

Sherman Williams sells it by the gallon or 5 gallon can. Cheapest place Ive found so far when I was using it.
 
It was my understanding that using increased octane fuel can will in most cases in a forced induction/ nitrous application increase performance, but the power is not from the fuel or the octane rating. In DSM's, if any knock or excessive knock is detected, the ECU will pull timing until the knock is either gone, or acceptable. So increasing the octane rating of fuel reduces the knock under load and at high RPM, allowing the ECU to keep more aggressive timing equalling more power.

I could be wrong, but that's how I understood it

Intact :talon:
 
IntactTSI said:
It was my understanding that using increased octane fuel can will in most cases in a forced induction/ nitrous application increase performance, but the power is not from the fuel or the octane rating. In DSM's, if any knock or excessive knock is detected, the ECU will pull timing until the knock is either gone, or acceptable. So increasing the octane rating of fuel reduces the knock under load and at high RPM, allowing the ECU to keep more aggressive timing equalling more power.

I could be wrong, but that's how I understood it

Intact :talon:

yes that is right
 
How much of a percentage do you mix the xylene with gas? :dsm:
 
pinknuggit said:
yup, try putting 85 octane in if you can. If it pings, stick with 87.

where the hell do you get 85 octane gas??? the lowest i ever saw was 87. just get 87, its what the service manual recomends.
 
there is one gas station back home that sells 85 octane. :shhh:
I always run 85 in my truck when I can. it runs a whole lot stronger.
 
don't forget, a lot of companies add xtra proprietary blends 4deposit contlroto their 'premium' gasolines (techron, etc...). So if you N/Ters like the 91 octane more, it's not the higher octane of the fuel that's benefitting you, but the fuel system additives that the companies put in with it...

-rick
 
Just to recap.... If i run Ultra 94 with the 10% by volume calculation with a 1/4 tank (that should be slightly over 3 gallons). I will yield a octane gain of just over 120 octane! I'd be alittle scared of that.
 
So im siting in chemistry a while back and my chem teacher was talking about gas prices and how insane they are ect ect. Well out of the blue he was talking about his dads old muscle cars or something but he use to but aviation fuel in the bastard when he figured out, he can mix 87oct with Toulene (100%paint thinner!) and dump auto transmision fluid in it for a bit of lubrication. I was calling bullshit the whole time, I didnt belive it but he happend to have a can of genric octane boost, guess what the main "ingreedent" was. yeah Toulene. But in the more expensive octane boosts the main ingreedent was xylene. Xylene is di-methyl benzene when toulene is methl benzene, the methyl the alchohol is whats burning, so your geting about twice the go juice. Well a standard can of paint thinner with mineral sprits (a cleaing agent...) contains a mix of toulene and xylene. Well here is the magical solution.

Has anyone ever tried this? I found it in the tech stuff and just wondering if anyone had ever tried it and if it workedor not?
 
Toluene (correct spelling) has a RON octane rating of 121 and a MON rating of 107, leading to a (R+M)/2 rating of 114. Toluene is denser than ordinary gasoline (0.87 g/mL vs. 0.72-0.74) and contains more energy per unit volume. The higher heating value of toluene also means that the exhaust gases contain more kinetic energy, which in turn means that there is more energy to drive turbocharger vanes. In practical terms this is experienced as a faster onset of turbo boost. Because toluene is such an effective anti knock fuel it also means that it is more difficult to ignite at low temperatures. The Formula 1 cars that ran on 84% toluene needed to have hot radiator air diverted to heat its fuel tank to 70C to assist its vaporization. Thus too strong a concentration of toluene will lead to poor cold start and running characteristics.

Got all this info from:
http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html
 
TurboXtalon said:
Has anyone ever tried this? I found it in the tech stuff and just wondering if anyone had ever tried it and if it workedor not?


Everytime i go to the 1/4mi tracks here in Monterrey Mexico, I use toluene. We use to mix our PEMEX PREMIUM 92 Octane fuel with a max of 20% of toluene. Believe me that this mixture have help me to improve my 1/4mi tracks a lot. I also have tested with OCTANE BOOSTERS of several brands (Such as the ones Pep boys sale), and those boosters doesn't have anything to do with the toluene.

We also have made owr "MAgical Mixture" of octane booster. This is how to do it (I take it from http://www.geocities.com/runyardj/Octane-Boosters-Info.htm):

"Making your own
How to make your own octane booster (this is the basic formula of one of the popular octane booster products). To make eight 16 ounce bottles (128 oz = 1 gal):
100 oz of toluene for octane boost
25 oz of mineral spirits (cleaning agent)
3 oz of transmission fluid (lubricating agent)

This product is advertised as "octane booster with cleaning agent *and* lubricating agent!". Diesel fuel or kerosene can be substituted for mineral spirits and light turbine oil can be substituted for transmission fluid. Color can be added with petroleum dyes.

Or skip the cleaning agent & the lubricating agent altogether. Most high dollar gasoline comes
with cleaning agents already, and does any brand of gasoline come with a lubricating agent? No.
It's not needed."

Also, you will find more important info of toluene on this site: http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html

Here in mexico we buy 19Lts of toluene in some paint shops for about $35.00US Dlls. But believe me it will help you a lot on the tracks. I never use it for the daily use, I really don't know what can happen if you use it a lot, so be careful!

Good luck

Sergio G.
 
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