Manifold/turbo selection for 600 awhp sleeper

[nicknorth11]

I'm shooting for 600 awhp and would obviously prefer a T3 to a mitsu, but my dilemma is that I have built my car to be a sleeper and can't find a T3 manifold that I can hide or that looks anywhere near stock. I inquired about and ERL cast manifold and wanted to have the wastegate pipe coming off of the top removed, but it's not possible. What are your opinions about making my hp goals and keeping my car a sleeper at the same time? Btw, turbos I was looking at were the PTE 6262, PTE 6266, and FP 3582, all in T3 form. Also, are there any heat shields I could use to hide a T3 manifold? I'm open to any and all ideas.

 

[UofACATS]

I would pick a T3 manifold and turbo based off the best possible performance and then figure out how to hide it. I'd suggest a custom made shield or possibly a manifold blanket. Although IMO, anything that's "hidden" is bound to raise suspicion with other car guys, but would probably work on the untrained eye. Who are you hiding this from?

The 600whp capable turbo is going to be a bit of a clue as to the cars capabilities, do you have a plan for the turbo as well? And then there's the 4" inlet pipe, possibly a SMIM.. 600 wheel sleeper will be hard to pull off, your best bet is probably a ported oem manifold/shield and the FP30 housing (DSM82), or the FP manifold and modify the oem shield to fit.

 

[airmail96]

Holset HX-40 with the the mitsu bolt on housing, has made 653hp I think at 40psi. compressor housing looks nothing like stock though .

 

[finesse49ers]

600whp on pump gas?

And as long as the hood is down it'll always be a sleeper .

 

[nicknorth11]

Thanks guys. I know the large housing will be a bit of a giveaway, but I'm hoping that people just won't pay that close attention when they see the engine bay and how unimpressive it looks. As long as I can figure out a way to hide or mask the manifold, I think I'll be in good shape. Here's a pic of the bay now. It has more parts than you might think just by looking at it. A custom shield may be a good idea, although I haven't the slightest idea where to get one. I'm trying to hide it from everyone! Of course if people really want to know, I won't lie. I'm not trying to make money or anything. I just love the feeling of winning races when you're the "underdog."
Btw, here are some of my basics: 2.3l, built head, magnus smim, e85, shep stage 4, blah, blah, blah.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Holset HX-40 with the the mitsu bolt on housing, has made 653hp I think at 40psi. compressor housing looks nothing like stock though .

You know that is far from easy to achieve right? The bolt on housing sucks compaired to te t3

 

[finesse49ers]

If you find a way to conceal a quality T3 tubular manifold let me know, seriously.

 

[camfast]

Im wondering why does this even matter? Most people that know about racing can look at your engine bay and see that there is a big compressor housing. This would give it away...

If you insist on the most stock looking setup then go with any of the FP turbos. You could use a stock 1/2G exhaust manifold and put a heat shield on top of it. The turbo would nicely tucked in with a wastegate coming from the turbine housing. I think thata as sleeper as you will get.

 

[airmail96]

You know that is far from easy to achieve right? The bolt on housing sucks compaired to te t3

I agree but it's possible and works with a stock manifold.

 

[nicknorth11]

You'd be surprised how people can overlook a big turbo if everything else is unassuming. I will most likely have the whole thing coated in black to hide it more.

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

What fuel do you plan to run?

 

[nicknorth11]

I'm running e85

 

[JiggahMan]

You could try calling MAP and see if they'll do an EF4 for a DSM.

It sounds exactly like what you want.

 

[nicknorth11]

What is an ef4?

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

MAP makes a series of stock frame Evo turbos, the EF4 is one of them.

 

[nicknorth11]

Cool. I'll look into that. Thanks.

I've also contacted someone about a custom heat shield. Hopefully this stuff will work out. I'm open to any additional ideas guys. Keep em comi

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Paint everything black, including your bay, should help as it would look like a black hole.

 

[nicknorth11]

Scroll up and look at the pic I posted. It's already black.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Ahhh but your turbine housing isnt ceramic coated black and neither is your compressor cover its pretty stealthy as is.

Edit: when insaid paint the bay black i mean paint the Bay black. Yours is still white

 

[Kaotic_red]

Holset HX-40 with FP DSM race mani.

Maybe a FP3065

 

[nicknorth11]

I plan to replace the turbo, hence no coating yet. I'm really liking the custom shield idea. I also like to ef4 idea, but I need to talk to map about it.

 

[hurricanecris24]

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP HTA DSM86 Ball Bearing Turbocharger

2g or evo 3 exhaust manifold with fp hta dsm82 or dsm86. Or you could wait for fp to come out with there bolt on housing hx40.

 

[nicknorth11]

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP HTA DSM86 Ball Bearing Turbocharger

2g or evo 3 exhaust manifold with fp hta dsm82 or dsm86. Or you could wait for fp to come out with there bolt on housing hx40.

I like the fp dsm82. Is that mitsu flanged? (I'll look). I really wanted to go with a t3 if possible though.

 

[phunny]

Your car sounds a lot like mine, really just depends on how fast you want that car to spool and what your plans are for the car. I'm getting ready to yank my FPred because I want make an easy 9 second pass even though many think I can do it with the Red. My car makes 600awhp pretty easily and is extremely streetable on a 2.3.

I am still considering (25% chance) I'll keep the Red since the knew rules for stock appearing turbo for the DSM Shootout would allow this thing, seems crazy to me, but hey, rules are rules .

 

[nicknorth11]

They are surprisingly similar. I just want my car to be a solid mid ten second car and not have everyone know it. Low tens would be better, but not necessary. Btw, nice build.