Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[Tallen]

G-H-E-T-T-O

 

[psychlow]

1). Bad idea, don't do it.
2). Yes, it sucks.
3). Yes, it's ghetto.
4). DON'T BUY IT.

We get the point!

DIE THREAD, DIE!!!

 

[crankbender]

If you don't want to know this don't comment...for the rest I am going to explain about these.

#1 can they work YES
#2 do they work No

why not?

Curent supercharger design allows for an increase in horsepower equal to approximately 3 times the input power. This means if a supercharger kit adds 50 hp to an engine it is really adding 75 and taking 25 away. Could you get the 75 out if you had the 25 input by an electric motor? YES!

The problem:

Assuming you have the ability to control pressure and fuel you still have a problem. To get a 15 hp gain by the engine you have to input about 5hp of energy to the compressor...have you seen the size of a 5 hp motor?

Hope that helps yall a little on WHY this thing is crap.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by Groomz
Turbo's do not pull air out of the engine. They are turned by the pressure and heat of the exhaust gases. Real superchargers ( Vortech or Kenne Bell ) force air, and they have no "exhaust" side modifications. All of Kenne Bell vehicles put down their power on stock exhausts.

That ebay crap is not worth it. Where are the fuel mods and all the supporting hardware? Leave ebay to ricers and home decorators.

Please read previous posts. I already went thru this.

 

[slow_one_eight]

I have heard a lot of talk recently about those e-ram setups that use an electronic fan to slightly pressurize the intake. how well do they actually work. what hp gains could i expect on my stock plymouth laser one eight with this?

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by slow_one_eight
I have heard a lot of talk recently about those e-ram setups

Not much on here, apparently.

that use an electronic fan to

attempt to

slightly pressurize the intake. how well do they actually work.

They don't. what hp gains could i expect on my stock plymouth laser one eight with this? [/B][/QUOTE] None.

Check for "electric supercharger". They're complete crap.

 

[Ard184]

Says its a electric supercharger for like $300. Anyone have any info on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ry=33741&item=2480985694&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

 

[miamieclipse]

use it n let us know

Waste of $$ IMO, for 300$ u can get ureself a nice set of cams....well save 100$ more but u get my point

 

[realitytb]

ive heard of these.... pushes a claiming 6psi at full throttle using about 700W i think? http://www.electricsupercharger.com

they gaurentee their supercharger ;P if it really works, for 300$ its worth it.

 

[GSGoinFast]

theres gotta be a catch, it just seems too easy...

 

[Colossus]

They stick a high powered fan into your intake and create psi by building pressure up...yeah..u get it....not a turbo...just a fast fan...

 

[Defiant]

Complete horseshit that does nothing.

Thomas Knight has one that uses three starter motors, requires extra batteries to run, and has a very limited run time before the batteries are in need of a recharge. Supercharging takes a helluva lot of power to do, even with turbocharging. It's just that a turbo is a bit easier on things because of being gas-driven instead of mechanically driven.

http://www.boosthead.com/home.php

 

[philipkrotch]

theres a product called an E-RAM electric turbocharger. i had it on my 4th gen accord before i turboed it and it really, really worked. i raced a civic with it and without it and it made a 2 1/2 car length difference.

 

[realitytb]

the e-Ram was what im referring too. the e-Ram takes about as much power as a decent stereo. And apparently it works... maybe ill invest in it!

 

[MNGSX]

I'd run a 50 shot before I ran one of them if I was NT...

Either that or a kawi backpack leaf blower for the a SC or something...

 

[Thunderskull]

Yeah, without the turbo there should be room for a leaf blower. You could put in an extra resevoir for the gasoline while running the starter cord back into the driver's compartment. You'd just yank that whenever you wanted boost.

 

[realitytb]

if it works, it works.... not many other mods you can do that add that kind of power for
300$

 

[Randomrage]

if it works, it works.... not many other mods you can do that add that kind of power for
300$

You could save your $300 till your next paycheck, and have enough for a 50 shot dry, that WILL work.

I mean really guys, if this electric supercharger crap worked, wouldnt everybody on this forum have it? We all have intakes, and this is not a new "technology."

 

[GSGoinFast]

You could save your $300 till your next paycheck, and have enough for a 50 shot dry, that WILL work.

I mean really guys, if this electric supercharger crap worked, wouldnt everybody on this forum have it? We all have intakes, and this is not a new "technology."

ya there have been a bunch of threads about electric superchargers, and they all end up with the same conclusion: crap. mostly concluded by defiant tho but it always ends in there crap

 

[realitytb]

if it worked why wouldnt everyone in this forum have one? turbo's work, does everyone in this forum have one? no. no its not "new", and how do you know they dont work? you obviously dont have one, so how would you know? sure we could get nitrous, then spend the damned money to refill them and with the insane gas prices get premium. so nitrous really isnt that "cheap". Plus, its not NEAR as safe as this electric supercharger. im just sayin, dont bash on it unil you KNOW its crap... not just think it is.

 

[Randomrage]

if it worked why wouldnt everyone in this forum have one? turbo's work, does everyone in this forum have one? no. no its not "new", and how do you know they dont work? you obviously dont have one, so how would you know? sure we could get nitrous, then spend the damned money to refill them and with the insane gas prices get premium. so nitrous really isnt that "cheap". Plus, its not NEAR as safe as this electric supercharger. im just sayin, dont bash on it unil you KNOW its crap... not just think it is.

Yes, turbo's work. Which is faster, a stock n/t, or a stock turbo? Ok then. Having or not having a turbo has nothing to do with its PROVEN power adding abilites, its the money (and small amount of luck) involved. You missed the point. NOBODY in this forum has one of these electric superchargers on their DSM, even though it promises guaranteed results. Dont you think thats a bit odd? I do.

Nitrous is actually cheap. How much is race gas? Average $4.25 (up 10% in two years) around here. Compare that to $2.14 for premium gas (up 60% in two years, but if you factor in the 3-5% inflation monetary inflation rate, its the same as in the 80s) and $3.74 per pound for nitrous(up 2% in two years.) Point? Nitrous is cheap, cheaper than race gas, and will be cheaper than premium soon. Also, nitrous is not safer than that crappy supercharger, but it is more effective, and is more safe than the gasoline in your tank.

Last point. Im looking at your profile, I dont see stated one in your car, or on your wishlist, nor did you say you have one and youve experienced the results. So how do you know its NOT crap? Dont bother contradicting my opinion again until you KNOW.

 

[GSGoinFast]

^^^ agreed

if it worked why wouldnt everyone in this forum have one? turbo's work, does everyone in this forum have one? no. no its not "new", and how do you know they dont work? you obviously dont have one, so how would you know? sure we could get nitrous, then spend the damned money to refill them and with the insane gas prices get premium. so nitrous really isnt that "cheap". Plus, its not NEAR as safe as this electric supercharger. im just sayin, dont bash on it unil you KNOW its crap... not just think it is.

ya turbos work, but they also cost 7x as much as this little electric fan. and they are proven while this fan isnt. the reason why turbos arnt all over this forum is cause of price, not whether theres doubt that they work. if turbos costed $300, i would have one. but they dont.

i have a leaf blower... i mean "electric supercharger" i could sell ya, only $250!

these things could work, but there is so much speculation becuase they are soo cheap, and they arnt proven, few if any people have them to tell us how good they were. if you believe in them so much, buy one, dyno, and prove us wrong

 

[adgators99]

I bought 2 of these and I know of a guy who bought another 2 from the same company (not e-ram) they gave us ~31.5hp and it does not use a crapload of batteries, just a simple fuse circuitry like a car radio. It is a blower fan (in our case 2 piggibacked for more intake). I just recently put mine in and results are good so far. I had an AEM Cold air intake in and took it out for a cheap ebay one so I could cut the cheap one to install the "supercharger"(actually supercharger effect). It has worked well so far and feels more powerful. E-ram copied another maker of these items and patented it first. my advice: doesn't hurt to try something new - why be like everyone else?

 

[GSGoinFast]

doesn't hurt to try something new - why be like everyone else?

hurts the wallet

$300 is a lot to me, im not rich. but im going turbo very soon so i wont be trying this... if i wasnt going turbo... i wouldnt try this... i'd be spraying

 

[AEMEclipse140]

I actually heard about those breaking and pieces of the fan go into the intake destroying the motor other than that i havnt heard anything.