Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[CycloneAWD]

Originally posted by Spln_Hrd
i am pretty sure what you are talking about is one of those electic fans you put on a intake pipe, i think that they are actually a bs kinda thing, in other words they really don't make any boost. a REAL supercharger doesn't use a cbv

Depends on heh type of supercharger used...Roots type blowers, or screw type blowers dont really compress air as a turbo or a centrifugal S/C does...they just force more air into the cylinders...BUT a Turbo or a Centrifugal S/C they compress air...you dont really need a BOV on a Centrifugal S/C but some companies like Vortech do offer them for their kits...

 

[Defiant]

No. They have the approximate capability of supercharging as you do in sticking your dick out the window to fu(k the world. Merry Christmas.

 

[Enigma_Man]

There was some research into this a while ago. Most of the "electric superchargers" you see advertised are _really_ terrible. There is one on the market that I know of that does provide about +5 extra ft-lbs of torque down low, it uses a very strong electric aircraft engine, and a well designed ducted fan, and it does have actual results. But, eventually the car sucks more air than even that fan can provide, and the benefits are gone. A good deal of the benefits seen by any "electric supercharger" are from changing your intake (usually making it bigger to fit whatever contraption).

A supercharger can take on the order of 10's of horsepower to operate. This is around the 10,000 range of Watts. At 12 volts, that means you'd need on the order of 1000 Amps to drive this motor.

You all know how much drain on the electrical system our starter motors take. A starter motor only draws about 200 amps maximum! So... You'd need the electrical power of five starter motors to drive this supercharger that would make any power and/or pressure at all.

That, and superchargers don't need BOVs anyway though some do use them (I'm not exactly sure why, not as well versed in supercharger-ese)

-Jesse

 

[InjenTalon96]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2452948405&category=33741

wtf ???

 

[Thunderskull]

These are a piece of garbage. All it will do is be an obstruction in your airflow. It's a scam. Don't buy one.

 

[Defiant]

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And, locked before someone counts those and reports back to us.

Just once, see if you can find what's already been said about these pointless pieces.

 

[NeOzz1]

I was browsing ebay and I have no idea about what this is. If anyone knows will someone let me know and maybe how much HP increase it gvs you and how it installs. Thanks

 

[NeOzz1]

Link Sorry

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2470437033&category=33741&tc=photo

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Your car already has something that is much better than that..... .

 

[NeOzz1]

so its for NT's only because thats not stated

 

[FDTT]

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Its a dam leaf blower.
I have heard about these things. It goes in your intake pipe and when you hit WOT you get an extra 4psi(claimed) of boost.
Who knows, it may actualy make a difference. But i have yet to see anyone running one. Or anyone who knows anyone who has run one. But i have seen the same thing, but it was a converted leaf blower. The guy claimed that there was some added power.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by NeOzz1
so its for NT's only because thats not stated

I wouldn't really suggest it for N/T either. Think about how a turbo works.. It works off the exhaust side. The air that is moving thru the exhaust side is what drives the turbo. So the turbo is pulling air out of the engine at the same rate that it's being forced in. That thing looks like something you slap on the end of your intake to "Force" air in but you don't have something on the other side of the engine to help even things out. I'm no professional but i would think that thing would cause more harm than good. Just a waste IMO. Your turbo is much better.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Its a scam, we install those on the boats we build at work. There just blowers for fumes in the engine room. Also they only cost a few dollars. Don't do it, it's a rip off.

 

[ckozlgod]

Is that thing plastic????


Wouldn't it just melt

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

wow that thing is dope and why woul you want to know how it works and how it is installed..just curious? or do you want to a a turbo and fanned motor.

 

[ARTSUPRA]

these things been around for ages and cost only $10-$15

I guess sucker is born every minut:laugh:

 

[Nerfherder]

All those things do is create turbulence in the intake. We all know that turbulent air is not happy air.

 

[boostedinaz]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
I wouldn't really suggest it for N/T either. Think about how a turbo works.. It works off the exhaust side. The air that is moving thru the exhaust side is what drives the turbo. So the turbo is pulling air out of the engine at the same rate that it's being forced in. That thing looks like something you slap on the end of your intake to "Force" air in but you don't have something on the other side of the engine to help even things out. I'm no professional but i would think that thing would cause more harm than good. Just a waste IMO. Your turbo is much better.

So then how does a supercharger work by your definition. A turbo does not pull air out it only pushes it in and uses the exhaust heat and energy to do so.


Either way this thing is a scam. If you decide to buy it PM me cause I have some sweet beach front property here in AZ I would like to sell you.

Michael

 

[sakrafice]

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by boostedinaz
So then how does a supercharger work by your definition. A turbo does not pull air out it only pushes it in and uses the exhaust heat and energy to do so.

If i'm wrong then buy it and put it on your car .

Wasn't talking about a supercharger. The turbo is driven by the exhaust flow. Therefore the amount of air being pulled in is directly related to the air being pushed out. Supercharger is belt driven and the airflow is directly related to how fast the belt is moving.
Read this and you will know what i'm talking about. You can't slap a leaf blower in there and expect gains. Not my definition it's just how it works.

 

[RiceKiller_TSi]

Yardman/Toro supercharger = :thumbdown

 

[boostedinaz]

Originally posted by TurBoGs-T
If i'm wrong then buy it and put it on your car .

Wasn't talking about a supercharger. The turbo is driven by the exhaust flow. Therefore the amount of air being pulled in is directly related to the air being pushed out. Supercharger is belt driven and the airflow is directly related to how fast the belt is moving.
Read this and you will know what i'm talking about. You can't slap a leaf blower in there and expect gains. Not my definition it's just how it works.

Well, if you read my post you would see that i said it was a scam and i even added some sarcasm in for good measure. A turbo does not build boost directly in porportion to what is being drawn in. It builds boost exponentialy. As you force more air in, not suck it, then you have more exhaust energy and pressure. With this you will turnt he turbine faster and it will build more boost and so on, again build boost exponentialy. A SC, like this little POS being sold does, it lineraly. You force in an amount and thats it there is no extra being put out.

I know exactly how a turbo and SC work. I have educated myself enough to know that this is a gimic.

Michael

 

[clownface]

you can get those for like $15??? maybe theres a good use for it? maybe you can rig something up to blow in or move out air from the engine bay or maybe you could set one up to feed into the air filter and make some sorta cold air setup? just some thoughts, anyone think there good ones?

 

[psychlow]

Maybe you could use one to blow air on your SMIC....

 

[psychlow]

Originally posted by boostedinaz
...I have some sweet beach front property here in AZ I would like to sell you.