Intercooler Sprayer [Merged 12-7] sprayers ic i/c fmic sidemount smic co2 water

[HOOKSH]

fan on an intercooler? why not just drive really fast to get more air going through it? how about 150mph, spin cycle... thats why we have turbos anyways, to go fast, hehe. not sure ive ever seen an intercooler with a fan on it, but you can try it, but i think it would actually block more air then it would move when you are driving, but may be good to use when you are sitting in line at the track, waiting to run

 

[XTurboSpYderX]

Originally posted by SPEEDY
You do know that the NEW EVO comes from the factory with an ic sprayer right?

you do know that ALL EVOs (since the EVOIII, I believe) come stock with I/C water sprayers right?

 

[-=TWITCH=-]

water intercooler sprayer and the drag strip dont get along. Dont let the people at the grag strip know you are using a water intercooler srpayer they will not let you run. its against NHRA rules.

 

[RallyxDave]

In order for an I/C water sprayer to be effective you have to cycle the spray on and off. Simply dousing the I/C with water will not cool it, you need the water to evaporate which removes the heat and then spray it again as the temps come back up.

Deciding when to spray and the duration of the spray is the tricky part....

 

[nine5raptor]

Originally posted by SPEEDY
You do know that the NEW EVO comes from the factory with an ic sprayer right?

and you did read that I said the water worked the best right?

the water ic sprayers work well at transferring heat out of the hot intercooler as long as you are in relatively low humidity. As RH goes up, effectiveness goes down (as it is the evaporation of the water breaking the hydrogen bonds that "sucks up" the heat). The high S.H. capacity of the H20 makes it work well.

The c02 will work the best by spraying the ic before the run as all the intercooler is, is a heat sink (not like a radiator, for you people that thought they were basically the same). the larger delta Temp, the better the heat sink.

 

[nine5raptor]

Originally posted by RallyxDave
In order for an I/C water sprayer to be effective you have to cycle the spray on and off. Simply dousing the I/C with water will not cool it, you need the water to evaporate which removes the heat and then spray it again as the temps come back up.

Deciding when to spray and the duration of the spray is the tricky part....

does anyone know the auto timing of the evo sprayer? I think it is 1s on 3s off when under wot.

 

[RipperXX]

I personaly dont see how water is better than Co2 i mean hell if you have the right injectors and enough of them just spray it for like 10 sec stop wait a few sec's and then spray from the time your ready to launch untill you actuly do... it should stay frosted over for probly half the run and i just about bet it would still be cool at the end of it.

 

[XTurboSpYderX]

you may have a point for the drag strip... but the water sprayer would work better for the auto-X track, as you will be pushing hot air for more than 10-14 seconds...

 

[HOOKSH]

well i want a setup for drag, i dont do auto-x, so something for dragging is what im looking for, but... maybe i should just forget CO2 and water ideas, and throw in a propane setup instead... i dunno

 

[SPEEDY]

Originally posted by nine5raptor


and you did read that I said the water worked the best right?

the water ic sprayers work well at transferring heat out of the hot intercooler as long as you are in relatively low humidity. As RH goes up, effectiveness goes down (as it is the evaporation of the water breaking the hydrogen bonds that "sucks up" the heat). The high S.H. capacity of the H20 makes it work well.

The c02 will work the best by spraying the ic before the run as all the intercooler is, is a heat sink (not like a radiator, for you people that thought they were basically the same). the larger delta Temp, the better the heat sink.

Yes.. I read that! I was just merely making a point to you that water does work for an IC sprayer, or Mitsu wouldn't be putting these IC water sprayers on the new EVO to begin with, regardless of what tests that you read about. No pun intended. I agree with NOSLASER that nitrous would be best. If your going to go through all of the trouble of hooking the IC sprayer up you might as well just install a nitrous set up and be done with it. A nitrous set up will solve all your cooling needs.

 

[-=TWITCH=-]

Originally posted by HOOKSH
well i want a setup for drag, i dont do auto-x, so something for dragging is what im looking for, but... maybe i should just forget CO2 and water ideas, and throw in a propane setup instead... i dunno

There has been a lot of research about Propane cooling the intake charge, it does not really do that great of a job cooling the intake charge. What propane does do is add more fuel. This will allow you to raise boost and get more timing advance and less knock. Propane is nice if you want to run more boost and make your power from that extra PSi you can run with the propane. CO2 is nice because it takes the boost you already make and turns it into more power by lowering your intake temps by crazy numbers. Propane and Co2 do not work the same way at all. Just wanted to try and clear that up.

Chris R
www.intercoolertechniques.com

 

[RallyxDave]

Originally posted by HOOKSH
well i want a setup for drag, i dont do auto-x, so something for dragging is what im looking for, but... maybe i should just forget CO2 and water ideas, and throw in a propane setup instead... i dunno

You'll probably not see much of any benefit from spraying your I/C on the drag strip because you're only running for 12 seconds or so. Well, maybe some cooling will happen towards the end of your run...But if you spray water/propane inside your engine, you'll get the power increase right off the line and all the way thru the traps. If you install a WI system like mine ( http://www.4x4racecar.net/water_injection.htm ) you'll have the flexibility to add an I/C sprayer or even brake rotor sprayers

 

[96TalonAWD]

I have heard a lot of these c02 sprayers and i thing i can make one myself but is there a link or place that has the complete part list for this?

 

[eXploitedGST]

co2 tank, nozzle to spray co2, copper lines to route the co2, some brass fittings for the ends of copper line, and a valve to open and close the bottle...... ive used a similar setup to inject propane into a potato cannon the copper lines get a nice coating of frost on them when u spray it.

 

[maxim240sx]

I'm making my own too.Here is a list of the parts I'm using.
I start with a 5# tank from ebay=$50
nitrous solenoid from ebay=$40
steel braided line 16' from summit=$40
co2 regulator to save co2 and not blow anything up from ebay=$20
1/4" od stainless tubing and fittings from hose store=$10
all I need now it to get either a boost pressure switch or a manual trigger switch.So for under $200 i will have the same kit that NX sells for like $450.Good luck

 

[dsmturboawd]

or you could just buy one off egh3y for about 80 bucks.

 

[98GSXHKS]

Hey Hooksh. This 98GSXHKS from FLSCC. We spoke briefly about swaping cars... Anyway if your looking for a pure drag setup I would recommend propane injection. For many reasons. But here is some info read it and decide for yourself!!! Info here

 

[HOOKSH]

Hey 98GSX, im not sure what person you are... i have been looking into too many AWDs lately, you still wanna trade cars tho ??? i want an AWD bad. You are the guy from North Port or something? i remember now... i still might want to buy your car, so we'll have to talk, catch me again on AIM sometime, and we can talk details btw, i want to go with a propane injection system down the road, but on stock turbo and stock boost levels, it wont do a damn thing for me now, but down the road, ill definetly use it as a permanent octane booster (Propane = 110octane, -100*F correct?)

 

[hoffman]

dont forget you cant spray water ON your I/C if you plan to run a W/I kit. it needs to be internal. tracks tend to not let you run after you just left a trail of water down their track.

 

[HOOKSH]

im not too sure i like the water injection idea, i dont know enough about to set one up on my car, and i would be afraid of spraying too much water and seizing up my motor, my buddy vapor locked his honda by dunking his CAI into some water, and i dont wanna end up like him ill stick to propane into the intake tract and/or co2 intercooler sprayer to keep my FMIC from getting heatsoaked

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by HOOKSH
im not too sure i like the water injection idea, i dont know enough

That about covers it. WI is PFM within its limits.

 

[greyforestgst]

propane injection and nitrous are the polar opposites of each other.

water injection, intercooler sprayers, even intercoolers themselves all do the same job, and that is to condense the air intake charge to a colder degree. theres ups and downs to all three, but if i had to choose i'd probably go with a co2 spray on the intercooler. a system would be nice, but im ghetto and id prolly just get a co2 fire extinguisher and run out before my run and blast the #### outta it.

prolly works good on your intake mani too.

 

[1GBOOSTEDDSM]

Ok i've searched but all i can find are links to kits so this is what i need.
I need detailed instructions on how to make one. My reason for wantingto makeone im in th process of paying for my engine and canno fford to buy a kit. so if you can provide me ith the parts list and instructins that woul be great.

thanks

 

[Blitzed95Eclips]

they are good for drag racing. We packed my buddies fmic on ice when he was on the dyno and he gained 15 hp at the wheels. So i would say if your intercooler is heat soaked then you could expect around 15-20hp

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by HOOKSH


PFM? im confused

Pure Fu(king Magic.