Intercooler Sprayer [Merged 12-7] sprayers ic i/c fmic sidemount smic co2 water

[miguels3000]

Good Idea, place it as a fire extiguisher....

 

[kandt]

i just ordered my co2 intercooler sprayer and i was wondering where is a good place to mount your bottle in a 1g? also does it matter if the bottle is mounted either facing down or up?

 

[TRBOTSI]

A buddy and mine just built two CO2 ic sprayers for around $25 a piece. We got all the parts from a paintball supply store and Lowes..I don't really need it with my fmic but he still has a stock sidemount on his GTI so I'm sure it'll help a bit....

 

[kandt]

i'm going to be running a 20g with my stock intercooler so i bought a co2 sprayer and i was wondering if thats going to be alright. i know i need a fmic but i cant afford it right now. but do you think this will be alright for now? and what boost level will be alright to run?

 

[ModInProgress]

Its been a while since i checked this forum, alot has been said. Would it be possible to mount the bottle under the good where the intake is, like next to it, i dont know for sure if a 12 ounce or 20 would fit there, just an idea. thanks jason

 

[DeeBo]

nest place to mount bottle is some where in the shad at all times but nomatter what if u lev the bottle filed in your car thorw out the day it well all leak out or blow the valvei would mount it under seat and runa still braded hose to the inter i/c or tap the hose into the piping and just use a on off valev to use it

 

[-=TWITCH=-]

Wow I thought this thread was dead guess not. Under the hood is not a good idea dont need the extra heat.

on a side note I want to let everyone know that I have finished building the more advanced kits.
The kits come with a 5lb co2 tank and a custom made 3000 PSI c02 solenoid, a HOBBS boost switch is optional, and can be used to set the sprayer to spray automatically when you hit a set boost limit. This is great if you just want to arm the system and forget about it. You can set the HOBBS to spray at any PSI you want this will allow the kit to best fit your needs. You can set the HOBBS to spray from 4PSI up to 20PSI. I will post some pics of the new tank ASAP.
This is what the new kits include

5lb-c02 bottle or any size you want. 5lb is standard
Custom engineered 3000psi Solenoid
Feed line
Sprayer Bar
Arming switch
Push button spray switch
HOBBS boost switch
Push button activation switch
All the wiring needed
Mounting brackets for the tank
Mounting brackets for the sprayer bar
Custom engineered safety valve
Optional pressure gauges co2 pressure
Optional c02 flow gauge.

Let me know what you guys think I’m think all of this for 265.00 plus shipping but that is not set in stone yet


TWITCH

 

[HOOKSH]

I was thinking about putting an intercooler sprayer in front of my Greddy FMIC. I've read that spraying CO2 through a loop can cool intake air enough to add 25+hp? How efficient are these and how well do they work? Worth the money and effort? Someone that knows about these things, help me out.

 

[91 NT Eclipse]

You won't get 25hp but you will get some gains. W/CO2, the gains will be spikey b/c you are sending a really cold shot onto 1 spot of the IC. So, using water will give you a longer lasting, more effective shot. B/c CO2 burns off the IC quickly too.

 

[Defiant]

You'll get a better payoff with water injection, inside the intake.

 

[TurBoGs-T]

Originally posted by Defiant
You'll get a better payoff with water injection, inside the intake.

Water inside the intake??? Are you sure about this??

 

[RipperXX]

yes he is. I know what he is talking about besides it cooling the incomeing air it also lowers pre-ignition ALOT so you can advance your timeing even more!.


now keep in mind this is a VERY fine mist of water it's basicly the same as if it was a foggy night inside your intake but yes it works..

 

[HOOKSH]

How much does a water injection setup cost? how difficult is install? where does the water come from? how does it not seize the motor? wouldnt it be like running a car with a CAI and sticking the filter in the water, just on a smaller scale? the water cant go into the motor can it? so where does it go? thanks ppl

 

[nine5raptor]

$300-$500
fairly simple
blue stuff in the washer bottle is a common place
not enough water to hydrolock
not really
it does go into the motor
see above

essentially you are doing the same thing as adding extra fuel to cool in combustion mixture only you have to add less "extra stuff" as water has a much higher specific heat capacity.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

BACK ON TOPIC

If you decided to spray the IC, you'd need a loop of tubing going around the IC spraying ever runner to try to get the best coating possible. But you will need to add gas to the A?F mixture due to the more dense air to really see the gains in horsepower. There was a supra that got 60hp on the dyno by spraying his IC with CO2

 

[nine5raptor]

Originally posted by Boosted98gsx
BACK ON TOPIC

If you decided to spray the IC, you'd need a loop of tubing going around the IC spraying ever runner to try to get the best coating possible. But you will need to add gas to the A?F mixture due to the more dense air to really see the gains in horsepower. There was a supra that got 60hp on the dyno by spraying his IC with CO2

that would be worse than no sprayer at all as you would be blocking all of your airflow. the ecu will take care of the fuel. it calculates air mass via the mas and fuels for that, density doesn't matter.

I need to find an article by some british guys that tested several ic sprayers. they found they were basically worthless.

they tried:
fire extinguisher (co2)
compressed air
nitrous
ethanol
water

the water actually worked the best due to its specific heat capacity.

then again the effectiveness of h20 will vary with relative humidity...

 

[NosLaser]

But you'll get the most power by spraying NITROUS into the intake. And by the way, did you bother to search on this topic at all? It has been discussed to death.

Regards,

 

[twenty5psi]

propane injection will help keep the air temps in the cylinders down too..im going to be going with propane injection soon for a safe measure for running a higher boost..water injection although will steam clean your internals unlike propane injection wont but propane is a fuel and will burn better than a water mist..pros and cons..

 

[nine5raptor]

Based on how rich we are usually running, the excess fuel isn't burning anyway.

It is the greater specific heat capacity of the water that allows less to be used that won't 'clog up' the combustion mixture.
vs.
Most likely the propane helps better atomize the fuel, thus giving you a more predictable flame front and preventing knock.

 

[SPEEDY]

Originally posted by nine5raptor


that would be worse than no sprayer at all as you would be blocking all of your airflow. the ecu will take care of the fuel. it calculates air mass via the mas and fuels for that, density doesn't matter.

I need to find an article by some british guys that tested several ic sprayers. they found they were basically worthless.

they tried:
fire extinguisher (co2)
compressed air
nitrous
ethanol
water

the water actually worked the best due to its specific heat capacity.

then again the effectiveness of h20 will vary with relative humidity...

You do know that the NEW EVO comes from the factory with an ic sprayer right?

 

[HOOKSH]

would propane do anything if i left boost where it is, or is it JUST as a safety to help prevent detonation? i heard about the IC sprayer on the ne EVO8, thats what kinda gave me the idea, and i searched a little, but probably not as much as i should have, but thanks guys, i kinda have a few ideas, but not sure yet, dont really wanna run any nitrous, so i thought CO2 might actually help, but i wasnt sure.

 

[c0degsx]

ask -=twitch=- about the intercooler spray. www.intercoolertechniques.com he has a dyno run showing the gains

 

[HOOKSH]

intercoolertechniques has a kit, and set up their kit on a supra, and it gave them an extra 61hp, but thats on a car thats at 610hp without, so with my car thats ALOT less power, will it make even 20hp? should i just forget about this idea and get a propane kit instead?

 

[red91tsiawd]

well........... best bet is to do both. i was the 1st person to buy his kit and now since its warmer probly gonna be the happiest (t-belt broke in the -10 degree weather he had here) it still looks as good as the day i bought it (september of last year i think) he said they are selling great now that people have realized how cheap his kit costs compared to others of the same or lesser quality and they work GREAT!

 

[Defiant]

Has anyone put a fan on the intercooler?