i want 9sec 1/4 what do i need

[lazzyboy22]

well this is what i want....9s.....
i have a decent budget but i need a parts list and what u guys think i will need..
i have a 1g not stock but i blew my motor and im geting a fully built one that will have no problem with 1200hp so i just need turbo and fuel and ems and stuff like that so let me know what u guys think and any websites you guys think will help me in finding these parts

 

[absolute_DSM]

You need to talk to guys like evil_eagle and Joe Bucci - if you do infact have the knowledge and cashflow to run 9s.

 

[nfernotalon]

Lots of money, time and patience, oh and a 12sec car, then a 10, then a 9 second car.

 

[Purevil]

Lots of money, time and patience, oh and a 12sec car, then a 10, then a 9 second car.

+1, Its easier to start slow and then learn to go faster than to try to start fast. Learn how to do some research first.

 

[1992awdlaser]

You have probably read this somewhere else but it is true with this question. If you have to ask then you don't even want to try it unless you pay somebody to build it for you. And if somebody else was building it for you you still wouldn't need to ask this question. You have no idea what you are getting yourself into. My ULTIMATE (meaning not current) goal is a mid 9 second pass. I am going to get there in stages. My goal currently is a mid 11 on boost with current mods and a high 10 with a 75 shot added into the equation.

 

[lazzyboy22]

see this isnt what i was looking for.. i run 9s in my firebird and i got in to the dsm world a little wile ago... my dsm now is around 400hp and was a last.. i have like 20 grand right now and already have the v8 mind in a 4cyl world... i just want to know what i need people i dont need to hear if i can do it or not... im lookin on input not what 2 do... i really dont think its aproprate to come with coments like reserch b/c asking my fellow peers is the first step in my book.... not agenced any of you tho i just would like 2 stay on topic... im lookin for answers like t76 turbo go with 1600 injec stuff like that... im just lookin for some ideas on what are good setups.... thnx for the coments above but again i would like 2 stay on topic

 

[1gDSM4g63]

You can't rush into getting at 9 sec car. First off you'll have to know how. 9 sec. car is not an everyday drive like getting onto the freeway.

 

[Jetrosr]

My first impression (and I think everyone who posted here) of yor first post was it sounded like some pimple faced kid with a wad of cash and rockstar dreams. I'm certain no one meant to offend you. You would get better results throwing out things like your parts list or at least your current setup.

 

[1992awdlaser]

Gt35r with supporting mods and good driving is what you need to run 9's. Don't forget about tuning and broken axles, transfer cases, transmissions etc. It sound A LOT easier then it actually is believe me. The dsm is way different then your firebird. And I am sure you didn't just jump into the firebird and run 9's. Whats done to the firebird? What year?

tbonitz301, just because you can make one car run 9's doesn't mean you can make a completely different platform do the same thing.

 

[lazzyboy22]

yea ive reserched before... im just not sure what turbo i want to go with... i was lookin at a 42r but the t76 looks really good 2 but idk if i wana rev much higher then 10k my motor will hold 11.5k but i want it 2 last more then 1 season.. and im only ( not 2 under mind it) looking for 800-900 daly hp.... not to be comfused with daily driver!! idk im just looking for some input on some stuff my firebird ran 12 flats then i moved to 10s then just hit 9s last year.. its a 94 formula with a fully build lt1 with a 200 shot and a 4k stall its a fun car... i have alot of friends with dsms that run pritty fast so im not doing this alone again just lookin on some input

 

[sbengineering]

If you are a V8 guy, then you will know that there are always many options to get you where you wanna be. And if you have knowledge of Forced Induction, then you also know that it is nothing like a n/a engine.

Like everyone said, do some searching and read up on these cars, even if it is just a little 4cly. And look at your realistic goals with the car.

DSM guys are always willing to help out.

 

[fastandlow94]

Watch FAST AND FURIOUS tell you everything you need to know.....


NOS man you need NOS!!!!!!

 

[gsx rated98]

agenced

What word is that? I think you are trying to say against. Though I could be wrong.

After reading your post, I find it hard to believe you have a 9sec Firebird, but thats my personal opinion.


So, what car do you have AWD? FWD? important questions, and different ways to get to 9s. Auto or Manual. Important questions to obtain your goals.

Since you currently have "400 hp" in the car, I'm very curious as to your mod list. Please post up what you have already.

 

[1992awdlaser]

I will ask. What kind of 9's do you want? Do you want high, mid, or low?

 

[lazzyboy22]

alrighty is a 91 awd manual
i recently lost my old motor due to a snaped conecting rod... long story
it was stock motor
fully ported basterd 16g
680inj
255fp
full adj fpr
dsm chip stage 3 with safc
fully proted 02 non external wastgate
3in exhost
2g maf
i was runing 24lbs on pump and 26lbs on race
very extamated 400hp btw i dont wana get raped by some people on here sayin no way
but she was a fun car

o and i just put 9s on the table 2 get the topic started i really just want 800hp or runing lower then 10.7s

 

[1bad91tsi]

omfg!
Isnt that exactly what the banner question says?

Newbie Forum Beginner/newbie/general DSM questions. first mods, how to run 10's when you haven't run 12's yet, any tech question that doesn't fit in another tech forum. New Members must limit their tech posts to this section.

To go 9s?Race the 1/8

 

[tbonitz301]

Gt35r with supporting mods and good driving is what you need to run 9's. Don't forget about tuning and broken axles, transfer cases, transmissions etc. It sound A LOT easier then it actually is believe me. The dsm is way different then your firebird. And I am sure you didn't just jump into the firebird and run 9's. Whats done to the firebird? What year?

tbonitz301, just because you can make one car run 9's doesn't mean you can make a completely different platform do the same thing.

I agree, but at the same time dont you think someone running nines would realize that its probably not a good idea to go from 400hp to 1000 or whatever he said. Ive been in the dsm community for about oh a month. If i had the money id also have a 9 second car because i searched over and over and found everything i needed.

 

[1992awdlaser]

Those injectors wouldn't even flow enough to run 24 psi or 26 psi on a 20g. I doubt that setup would make 400whp at that boost also. Look at the mods in my profile. That is what it takes to consistently make 400whp.

 

[lazzyboy22]

i was runing thos injectors at 86% so i know that they were runing just fine and its not really a 20g its just a 20g wheel in a 16g housing..

 

[gsx rated98]

I agree with the spell check...

A few things you should start with. Find a 4bolt rear end, upgrade all 4 axles. Buy spare TCases and Center diffs. Send the Transmission out to be rebuilt. Overhaul the suspension, Overhaul the fuel system, Put in a (and guys correct me if I'm wrong here) 10pt cage. Upgrade the braking system, Lighten the car, get yourself AEM EMS,

Oh, and most importantly, work on your driver mod. All the money you dump into a car isn't worth crap without that very important mod.

 

[mitch26753]

well since you ask the question here is how. I take it you have the money. So get your check book out and buy a 9 second car off someone that already has one. Cause if your asking this question means you probably dont have to knowledge to make a 12 second car let alone a 9. just my two cents.

 

[lazzyboy22]

finaly someone that can repost with some insite... i have a parts car that is same year... same car.. and im not compleatly sure correct me if im worng b/c i know you will but doesnt my 91 have a 4bolt... its got lsd.... ahh im going 2 get raped on this one but i was told it does... and yes the roll cage is in order i have most of it drawn up and ready 2 start it and i agree 1000000% about the driver im deff not as good as i could be thnx for the imput

 

[1992awdlaser]

92-94 has the 4 bolt 90 and 91 has the 3 bolt. I am helping. I am just not going to make it look easy when it isn't. Do you want high, mid, or low 9's?

 

[allgripnoslip]

Oh, and most importantly, work on your driver mod. All the money you dump into a car isn't worth crap without that very important mod.

Make sure you watch out for that loose nut behind the wheel...seriously though, losing weight will help you get there easier for cheaper(take your pick you, the car or both). What type of engine do you have now? If you want a track car, 2.0L seems to be the main choice, however if it is street driven, the extra bottom end torque from a 2.3 or 2.4L stroker will make it more friendlier on the street. I concur with 1992awdlaser with the gt35r. I have a friend who ran a gt35r on a 2.3L stroker with all supporting mods and some lightening work done and I believe he ran mid 10's dyno'd 600 on race gas and 530 on pump gas(94 oct). Good Luck

 

[that_guy_trav]

seriously... where you trashed when you wrote this... not being able to spell simple things like exhaust and estimated... not too mention you would be over running that 2g maf

alrighty is a 91 awd manual
i recently lost my old motor due to a snaped conecting rod... long story
it was stock motor
fully ported basterd 16g
680inj
255fp
full adj fpr
dsm chip stage 3 with safc
fully proted 02 non external wastgate
3in exhost
2g maf
i was runing 24lbs on pump and 26lbs on race
very extamated 400hp btw i dont wana get raped by some people on here sayin no way
but she was a fun car

o and i just put 9s on the table 2 get the topic started i really just want 800hp or runing lower then 10.7s