hmmm which tires?

[Flash]

im pretty sure you already bought the tires but i just found this and had to wonder why michelins' werent on the list. i mean seriously why were the ps2's not mentioned. and just in case someone finds out i dont rock these its just because i couldnt past up getting my 245r-16 yk520 for $80/tire and knowing they come with a 60,000 mileage warranty.

Because PS2's are expensive. Roast Beef on here just bought the new Michelin Pilot Super Sport for his 2g. First impressions from him are that they are amazing. I've driven a lot of miles on the PS2's and think they are a top tire. I own the Michelin PS Cup's... but those are still sitting in my basement.

 

[eclipsalon]

i aslo bought two of the sport cups thinking they should give me a bit more "grippage" over a street tire on the strip. what do you guys think?

 

[PieEyedPiper]

i aslo bought two of the sport cups thinking they should give me a bit more "grippage" over a street tire on the strip. what do you guys think?

I'm sorry, only two?

 

[eclipsalon]

yea its all they had in stock and i got them for $50 each, so i figured that even if they didnt make much of a difference on the strip it wouldnt be a deal to past up. BTW it not like my center diff is welded shut yet so power ratio is still like 70:30 aint it?

 

[jtmcinder]

BTW it not like my center diff is welded shut yet so power ratio is still like 70:30 aint it?

Argh!

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/410949-awd-dsm-torque-split-distribution.html

 

[Tyeler18]

Another star spec competitor that no one's mentioned are the Hankook RS-3's. Awesome treadware, better grip than the star specs (IMO), and they're not TOO bad for price. Almost all our local autox guys run them. Our fastest guy switched from the RT-615's on his evo to the RS-3's and said he's got way more grip with them.

 

[D's GS-T]

The RS3's are kinda lame below like 60f, and being way performance oriented are pretty lame in the rain, they need heat to work but when they are up to temp they are amazing. The Star Specs are the better choice IMO, they have a better operating temperature range and are AMAZING in the wet, especially if you autocross. They also have a slightly better 200 treadwear rating (I think). The downside to them is that they will get a bit greasy when very hot. I'd consider the Star Specs over the RS3 If your car is mainly a street car especially if you live in a NE area. If you lived down south you might be able to get away with the RS3.

 

[jtmcinder]

You guys seem to take the treadwear "rating" a bit too seriously. Those are not set by independent testing or anything like that. The maker just puts a number on the tire.

 

[D's GS-T]

You guys seem to take the treadwear "rating" a bit too seriously. Those are not set by independent testing or anything like that. The maker just puts a number on the tire.

Thats interesting

I always wondered what kind of miles I'd get out of the star specs. May have to do some research on that.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

Argh!

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/410949-awd-dsm-torque-split-distribution.html

That and it isn't very bright to run 2 different kinds of tires on an AWD. But it's cool cause his center isn't welded...

 

[jtmcinder]

A long trip on the highway with tires more than about 1% different would be a problem for his VC, but for just zipping around town, etc, mismatched tires aren't a big deal, I agree.

On the other hand, I'm not sure I agree that 'Kook RS-3s need a lot of heat. Of course, Run 2 is better than Run 1, and Run 3 is better than 2, but they're not like my old Kumho MXs that were rocks when cold. In fact, while I never sprayed my MX, I'll have to spray the RS-3s on hot days.

 

[eclipsalon]

Argh!

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/410949-awd-dsm-torque-split-distribution.html

makes since but ive just always read that our dsm are still more front-wheel based, as in whenever your not slipping just cruising; the front tires are being used(the rears just on for the ride) unlike the evo's, scoobies, and skylines which are 30:70. which is why i thought it was harder to make go sideways. Apologies to the OP for talking about this instead of tires but i just want clarification.

 

[jtmcinder]

...unlike the evo's, scoobies, and skylines which are 30:70....

Argh, again.

Evos are 50/50. The only Mitsu I know of with a planetary is the 3000GT.

Yes, the STi has a planetary center, but it was never as rear-biased as 30:70. They started with a 35/65, but the Great Unwashed kept crashing, so they backed it off to 42/58. No idea what it is now, but I can't imagine that it's 30/70.

I don't know about Skylines. You might be one-for-three.

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Unless you have written an unintended zeugma and only meant that Skylines are 30/70. [Yes. I'll wait while you look up "zeugma."] In that case, never mind.

 

[D's GS-T]

Zeugma (from the Greek: ζεῦγμα, zeûgma, meaning "yoke"[1]) is a figure of speech describing the joining of two or more parts of a sentence with a single common verb or noun. A zeugma employs both ellipsis, the omission of words which are easily understood, and parallelism, the balance of several words or phrases. The result is a series of similar phrases joined or yoked together by a common and implied noun or verb. A syllepsis is a particular kind of zeugma, and there is a clear distinction between the two in classical treatises written on the subject. Henry Peacham praises the "delight of the ear" in the use of the zeugma in rhetoric, but stresses that "too many clauses" should be avoided. The zeugma is categorized according to the location and part of speech of the governing word.

 

[eclipsalon]

Argh, again.


Unless you have written an unintended zeugma and only meant that Skylines are 30/70. [Yes. I'll wait while you look up "zeugma."] In that case, never mind.

thanks for clearing that up and yea it was a "zeugma", n no i didnt no the evo was the same 50/50. but if this is true i guess theres no use in going evo, sweet!!

 

[jtmcinder]

You don't need a planetary to have a well-behaved car or even some fun. An Evo X with the ASC in plain off is easy to drift and still is controllable. (Rough on the rear tires tho'.) And we out-turn STis no problem (or maybe I should say that we turn inside them), even with a 50/50 center, although that's mostly due to the rear AYC.

In any event, Cusco makes a 35/65 center for DSMs. If you have to have a rear-bias planetary for some reason, it's available.

 

[Sandman817]

how did this thread go so far off topic.. i was jsut wondering about a couple sets of tires and i just read the last 5 posts and WTF??!?

 

[jtmcinder]

When I stick my nose in a thread, all bets are off.

To get back on topic, now that I've beaten on them some more, I adore my RS3s. They remind me a lot of old Kumho Victoracers, but with a silly 140 on the side, so they're legal for STU. With enough camber, they'll be fine wear-wise, too.