Help Me Beat the 350Z

[jibberishballr]

So my friend has an 06 350z. I think they run around a 14 second flat 1/4 mile. I must beat him. One of my good friends but way too cocky. Help me build a car that will beat him. Im not goin for a Drag racer. At best my goal would be 13's. Check out my profile for my mods. (close to stock) Also im on sort of a budget since im 18. Ill have more money this summer but for now i need some ideas on how to hit low 14's to high 13's.

 

[Spoolin98]

Hes got the new 06 350Z (Faster than older 350's...hes rich), all stock right now, and a sound system in the back.

The new ones are only slightly faster, I think like 10hp at the crank. They still sell models w/o limited slip in 06, if he is rich, mostly likely he has the one with limited slip.

 

[jibberishballr]

Bench racing aside.....Your going about this all the wrong way. A 14 second rich kid with a stock is not a goal. You should set 1/4 mile or hp goals for yoursle fna dyour car not worry about other people's cars and then woprk toward that. Don't try and keep up with the jones's be the jones's. Save up your money and decide how fast you want to go reaserch and then build toward that goal. If you tell us how much money you have to deal with not just not much and give us a hp or 1/4 mile goal we can point you in the right directoion atleast.

Thats the thing. My goal is to get into high 13's. I dont really want to be faster than that. If i did want to be faster than that id probably sell my car and get the GSX that way launches would be no problem. I like fwd though.

 

[skinnykenny84]

If you do what I got in my profile and you can drive you kill em! I just beat a twin turbo one this weekend at Streeet Wars @ Rockingham drag way! I got it on tape but dont know how to put it on this site. pc idiot :-(

 

[majik2k5]

good 14b - $150
used turbo back - $300
mbc - $25

no extra lines are needed for the 14b swap... just bend ## current ones, believe me it works... and as far as the turbo back, just run open downpipe until u get the money... and u can run 15psi (sometimes more) onthe stock fuel system.... that will take even bolt on 350z's

ownage in under 200 dollars....

Considering all the mods you just listed add up to almost 500$ ?? WTF


It would be a lot easier if we actually new what it is that you're working with as far as a budget. Give us some kind of price range and then we can give you more effective advice.

 

[Slippi84]

If you do what I got in my profile and you can drive you kill em! I just beat a twin turbo one this weekend at Streeet Wars @ Rockingham drag way! I got it on tape but dont know how to put it on this site. pc idiot :-(

he must have had no idea how to drive cause at 13.6 there is no way you should have kept up wth a TT 350z. Unless he was running like 5psi on each turbo. If his turbo kit made him 100more hp which is realistic he would run about a full second fast than stock so with the other guy saying they run around 14 flat that means he's around 13 flat which is half a second faster than you. I would love to see the tape maybe something in that will show us what these things(350zs) can really do cause we all know exactly how fast your car is.


http://spdkilz.org/Video-Audio/Car Videos/Nissan/350ZTT vs EvoVIII.wmv


This 350z TT spanks this slightly moded evo

 

[Slippi84]

Thats the thing. My goal is to get into high 13's. I dont really want to be faster than that. If i did want to be faster than that id probably sell my car and get the GSX that way launches would be no problem. I like fwd though.

In that case don't waste your time with a 14b get a 16g a set of 550 injectors a safc and full 3 inch exhaust and a either a walbro 190 or walbro 255 and you will be set.

 

[jibberishballr]

In that case don't waste your time with a 14b get a 16g a set of 550 injectors a safc and full 3 inch exhaust and a either a walbro 190 or walbro 255 and you will be set.

So are you saying I get the bigger turbo rather than the smaller one to run high 13's? You make it sound like the 14b is more capable than the 16G. At least thats what i got out of it. Maybe i just got that out of it because ive heard the 14b can get into high 13's.

Im still confused on what to do. If i can run high 13's on the 14b safely, then that would be my route since it would be cheaper. But if thats not gonna happen then i prob should just get a 16G. Any thoughts anyone?

 

[Slippi84]

So are you saying I get the bigger turbo rather than the smaller one to run high 13's? You make it sound like the 14b is more capable than the 16G. At least thats what i got out of it. Maybe i just got that out of it because ive heard the 14b can get into high 13's.

Im still confused on what to do. If i can run high 13's on the 14b safely, then that would be my route since it would be cheaper. But if thats not gonna happen then i prob should just get a 16G. Any thoughts anyone?

No don't get me wrong the 14b will get you 13's hell people have run 11's on 14b's, thing is you don't sound like a tuning guru as I am not either and it is easier and still managable to tune a 16g with a safc and 550's to high 12's. Trust me you will get that 14b run high 13's this guy will get an exhaust and a couple other mods and then you'll be back here saying how do i run high 12's. DO it right the first time. A 16g will give you enough room that unless this guy gets a built motor twin turbo and nitrous you will still walk him

 

[jibberishballr]

No don't get me wrong the 14b will get you 13's hell people have run 11's on 14b's, thing is you don't sound like a tuning guru as I am not either and it is easier and still managable to tune a 16g with a safc and 550's to high 12's. Trust me you will get that 14b run high 13's this guy will get an exhaust and a couple other mods and then you'll be back here saying how do i run high 12's. DO it right the first time. A 16g will give you enough room that unless this guy gets a built motor twin turbo and nitrous you will still walk him

Youre right. I am no tuning guru. Im good at driving but im not a tuner. The thing is moneys an issue right now, being im still in high school. And my friend probably will get more mods. I just want to see if i can beat him while hes close to stock. He actually plans on twin turboing it this year, but promised to race me before he did. Its really tempting to get the 14b just to beat him, but the right decision would probably be to wait and buy the 16G. I had a couple questions. First off how much money you think ill be looking for that setup you mentioned above. Second what will i need to modify if I run the 16G, and third, Is the SAFC easy to work with and which one should i get (ive seen multiple types) ?

 

[Slippi84]

Youre right. I am no tuning guru. Im good at driving but im not a tuner. The thing is moneys an issue right now, being im still in high school. And my friend probably will get more mods. I just want to see if i can beat him while hes close to stock. He actually plans on twin turboing it this year, but promised to race me before he did. Its really tempting to get the 14b just to beat him, but the right decision would probably be to wait and buy the 16G. I had a couple questions. First off how much money you think ill be looking for that setup you mentioned above. Second what will i need to modify if I run the 16G, and third, Is the SAFC easy to work with and which one should i get (ive seen multiple types) ?

16g prices will vary but you shoudl be able to pic one up pretty cheap off the classifieds from someone that is upgrading the 550's are around 150-200 bucs a safc1 is very easy to use and will cost about 150 maybe 80 for the walbro 190 or 100 for the 25 i think the 190 would be good enough for 16g. Thing is you can run a 16g on stock fuel setup at like 15psi max for a little and be ok so you will beat him now and then get the rest and beat him even after his turbo upgrade

 

[jibberishballr]

16g prices will vary but you shoudl be able to pic one up pretty cheap off the classifieds from someone that is upgrading the 550's are around 150-200 bucs a safc1 is very easy to use and will cost about 150 maybe 80 for the walbro 190 or 100 for the 25 i think the 190 would be good enough for 16g. Thing is you can run a 16g on stock fuel setup at like 15psi max for a little and be ok so you will beat him now and then get the rest and beat him even after his turbo upgrade

Ok. So injectors, turbo, fuel pump....what about intercooler. Will i be alright with stock SMIC? If so to how high of psi? Also i dont need anything else with the 16G to install on my car? (Ive seen install kits that why i was asking).
Im thinking if i got the turbo id be alright without the other mods if i just run the boost low. Is that correct?

 

[Slippi84]

Ok. So injectors, turbo, fuel pump....what about intercooler. Will i be alright with stock SMIC? Also i dont need anything else with the 16G to install on my car? (Ive seen install kits that why i was asking).

A supra smic would work or you could save up and get a fmic i'm a strong believer in ebay fmic's as I have one . As for install kit that usualy is just a j pipe and a coupler other little things if you get a 16g from a guy that was running a 1g your set cause he would have been using his 14b j pipe and the oil feed and return lines.

 

[jibberishballr]

Im thinking im just gonna save up and since im doing construction this summer i should pull in a good 15k. So i think im going to save up for the 16G and all supporting mods. How does this look:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8052687987&fromMakeTrack=true

Also does this kit include all the lines i need?

 

[Slippi84]

Im thinking im just gonna save up and since im doing construction this summer i should pull in a good 15k. So i think im going to save up for the 16G and all supporting mods. How does this look:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8052687987&fromMakeTrack=true

Also does this kit include all the lines i need?

Looks good but you can get what you need for cheaper on the classifieds. You do have the right idea and hell with 15k you will have plenty of money for your setup.

 

[jibberishballr]

So until this summer, do you think i could give him a run with my T to small...
I just want to scare him at least

 

[RiceKiller_TSi]

Now, how is this not bench racing again?

Just tell your friend to meet me in Texas and I'll straight romp on him for ya.

 

[Liquidus]

I'll take him from a roll or a dig, in my Supra.

I say, just get a 16G because it seems like your wanting more than 13's. Plus it has more potential, if you want to go even faster in the future. I would suggest an LSD as well if you plan on putting that much power to ground on your front wheels.

 

[Marc91GSX]

Well I hate to burst your bubble but I have seen bone stock 350s run as fast as a 13.8 quarter. I drove my friends to a 13.5 at 103 but he had an aftermarket Y pipe that mught have helped some. Since your goal is only a high thirteen you might want to rethink it. I agree with almost everyone on here but I would recommend getting an e3 16g. It will give you even more of an oppurtunity to beat him even when he really starts to tune.