gt35r

[cory51191]

so basically i'm buying a stock 95' GST from my buddy and i'm not going to lie, i don't know too much about what these engines can handle with what turbos and the psi or anything but thats why i'm posting this thread.

after i pay him off i'd like to drop some stuff into the engine. it is 100% stock besides the BOV.
it will be used as a daily driven car.

i'm currently looking into a gt35r or something similar in size. could go a little smaller but it doesnt matter

any tips on what i should add in what order? (fmic, bigger turbo, intake, etc.)

thank you

 

[The_EE]

20g's are jank would strongly recomend a 16g they make nice power and are incredibly streetable. if you want bigger you can upgrade later. for now grab a fmic injecters pump i run a winebro 255 w/fpr . and some other suppoting mods.
if you have the money FP's evo III 16g is a real nice one.

20g is more than streetable.

 

[TalonTsi31]

20g is more than streetable.

never said it was'nt

 

[JPJ2007]

I was new to the DSM world too when I first got my 95 GSX a year ago.
A Big16G has been known to make 500awhp (its on video) and thats more than most will ever need.
Iv been looking into the FP Bt28 which has made 404awhp and pulled a full weight 2GB GSX to a 11.8 in the 1/8. Its around 800 and 900 if you get it ported. But its stock looking. In some states thats needed, like in cali.
Just do more research and You'll be good to go. You'll never stop learning, None of us do.
A 35R is way too big for a dsm. Better suited for a daily Honda. Even then its a big a$$ turbo.
Just my 2cents

 

[webconnect]

40$ for an eprom!? sign me up

 

[rogergoochman]

I was new to the DSM world too when I first got my 95 GSX a year ago.
A Big16G has been known to make 500awhp (its on video) and thats more than most will ever need.
Iv been looking into the FP Bt28 which has made 404awhp and pulled a full weight 2GB GSX to a 11.8 in the 1/8. Its around 800 and 900 if you get it ported. But its stock looking. In some states thats needed, like in cali.
Just do more research and You'll be good to go. You'll never stop learning, None of us do.
A 35R is way too big for a dsm. Better suited for a daily Honda. Even then its a big a$$ turbo.
Just my 2cents

you cant be serious. A 35r is no way to big for a dsm.

 

[4g63Powered]

I was new to the DSM world too when I first got my 95 GSX a year ago.
A Big16G has been known to make 500awhp (its on video) and thats more than most will ever need.
Iv been looking into the FP Bt28 which has made 404awhp and pulled a full weight 2GB GSX to a 11.8 in the 1/8. Its around 800 and 900 if you get it ported. But its stock looking. In some states thats needed, like in cali.
Just do more research and You'll be good to go. You'll never stop learning, None of us do.
A 35R is way too big for a dsm. Better suited for a daily Honda. Even then its a big a$$ turbo.
Just my 2cents

I'd like to see this 500awhp 16g.


11.8 in the 1/8mi isn't very impressive.


Plenty of DSMers run GT35Rs.

Where are you getting your info?

 

[RedTalon95]

I'd like to see this 500awhp 16g.


11.8 in the 1/8mi isn't very impressive.


Plenty of DSMers run GT35Rs.

Where are you getting your info?

I'd like to see the 500 awhp 16g myself. As for that 11.8, that was supposed to say 1/4 mile. This was posted on the Forced Performance website.

I'm personally going with either a 20g, Borg Warner comparable to the 20g, or the Holset. My car is a street car and will remain a street car. The 20g is a very streetable turbo in my opinion. I've never ridden in a DSM with a GT35R, so I can't comment on the streetability of that turbo, although I'd imagine it's a little laggy.

 

[cory51191]

I was new to the DSM world too when I first got my 95 GSX a year ago.
A Big16G has been known to make 500awhp (its on video) and thats more than most will ever need.
Iv been looking into the FP Bt28 which has made 404awhp and pulled a full weight 2GB GSX to a 11.8 in the 1/8. Its around 800 and 900 if you get it ported. But its stock looking. In some states thats needed, like in cali.
Just do more research and You'll be good to go. You'll never stop learning, None of us do.
A 35R is way too big for a dsm. Better suited for a daily Honda. Even then its a big a$$ turbo.
Just my 2cents

just like he said, you cant be serious... anyways, like you said: "You'll never stop learning." and your about to learn a little knowlege from a newbie

a gt35r defenitly isn't too big for a DSM, my friend actually has one in his 95 talon tsi, its also a daily driver

i've ridden in his car about 4 times after he installed his gt35r and didnt notice lag. it spooled up just fine

 

[cory51191]

anyways, condition of all the piping and hoses and whatnot are fine to start upgrades.

so some small starter parts??: high flow intake, boost guage and other guages, boost controller??

 

[Artago]

anyways, condition of all the piping and hoses and whatnot are fine to start upgrades.

so some small starter parts??: high flow intake, boost guage and other guages, boost controller??

Boost leak tester FIRST. Test and fix all leaks.

Then:

1. Boost Gauge
2. Wibeband O2 (AEM, Innovative, Zeitronix...) This is an important one.
3. Some kind of logger like Pocketlogger (I can sell you mine ) but if you plan to go big then just get DSMlink now. It will save you money in the long run plus you'll be able to tune right away and squeeze some more power out.
4. Boost controller (Manual = $20, Electronic = ~$200)
5. ... at this point you can monitor, log, and tune everything so whatever upgrade you get is up to you.

You could get a intake and exhaust but those wont do much until you have other mods.

Tom

 

[cory51191]

Boost leak tester FIRST. Test and fix all leaks.

Then:

1. Boost Gauge
2. Wibeband O2 (AEM, Innovative, Zeitronix...) This is an important one.
3. Some kind of logger like Pocketlogger (I can sell you mine ) but if you plan to go big then just get DSMlink now. It will save you money in the long run plus you'll be able to tune right away and squeeze some more power out.
4. Boost controller (Manual = $20, Electronic = ~$200)
5. ... at this point you can monitor, log, and tune everything so whatever upgrade you get is up to you.

You could get a intake and exhaust but those wont do much until you have other mods.

Tom

i planned on getting a dsm link for it anyways but i'll have to do that after i pay the eclipse off because i havent seen one under $500

unless someone can find one with the software for like $300 then i'd probley be better off getting cheap impotant stuff in the first place like the guages and the boost controller wouldnt i?

 

[Artago]

i planned on getting a dsm link for it anyways but i'll have to do that after i pay the eclipse off because i havent seen one under $500

unless someone can find one with the software for like $300 then i'd probley be better off getting cheap impotant stuff in the first place like the guages and the boost controller wouldnt i?

Boost gauge yes. Boost controller no. The boost controller is useless unless you have something to log with (IE: Wibeband + Logger or DSMlink). Otherwise you could damage the motor.

You can't turn up the boost safely unless you have something to monitor the engine with.

You can get a Zeitronix WB which has logging built into it but it's basic and it costs a lot more (and those features are useless once you get DSMlink). I'd suggest Innovative or AEM WB plus a logger such as pocketLogger or DSMlink.

Start with a boost gauge. You'll definitely need that.

Then I'd just save some money until you can buy some engine management stuff. (Wideband + DSMlink).

If you want to go cheaper for now, you can get a used pocketLogger (I can sell you mine) and a cheap Wibeband (Innovative LC-1).

Then once you get DSMlink you can sell the pocketlogger (like I'm doing in about 2 weeks when I install my DSMlink )

Any other questions?

Tom

 

[JusMX141]

I was new to the DSM world too when I first got my 95 GSX a year ago.
A Big16G has been known to make 500awhp (its on video) and thats more than most will ever need.
Iv been looking into the FP Bt28 which has made 404awhp and pulled a full weight 2GB GSX to a 11.8 in the 1/8. Its around 800 and 900 if you get it ported. But its stock looking. In some states thats needed, like in cali.
Just do more research and You'll be good to go. You'll never stop learning, None of us do.
A 35R is way too big for a dsm. Better suited for a daily Honda. Even then its a big a$$ turbo.
Just my 2cents

You watch wayyyy too many videos.

I'd like to see this 500awhp 16g.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuning-engine-management/292196-499awhp-16g.html

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[droppinbottom]

I think there is way too many people reading and not doing. Everyone has becomes a expert on this board lately.

OP if you have been in a car with a 35r and did not notice lag then you have not ridden in a car with a small turbo. Spool on a 16g is around 2800 give or take, spool on a 35r is in the 4800 range. That is a big difference.

People need to remember that just because a very few have made big power on XX turbo does not mean others will make the same power with XX turbo. Alot of these guys are running so many other things that give a little extra hp here and there to make it all add up. Most people see the limits of a 16g around 300-350whp. These turbos are a blast to drive and make daily driving rather fun.

I would still keep researching but only truely believe about 10% of what you read.

Good luck

 

[The_EE]

40$ for an eprom!? sign me up

Hehe. I used to work at a auto dismantler so I get great deals there, unfortunately they dont carry DSM's anymore as they are too old.

I got a 3" Needswings downpipe, stock exhaust and K&N CIA for a SRT-4 for $200 and then sold them, $200 for the need swings, $100 for the stock exhaust and $250 for the CIA.

Good times!

 

[cory51191]

I think there is way too many people reading and not doing. Everyone has becomes a expert on this board lately.

OP if you have been in a car with a 35r and did not notice lag then you have not ridden in a car with a small turbo. Spool on a 16g is around 2800 give or take, spool on a 35r is in the 4800 range. That is a big difference.

People need to remember that just because a very few have made big power on XX turbo does not mean others will make the same power with XX turbo. Alot of these guys are running so many other things that give a little extra hp here and there to make it all add up. Most people see the limits of a 16g around 300-350whp. These turbos are a blast to drive and make daily driving rather fun.

I would still keep researching but only truely believe about 10% of what you read.

Good luck

i'm sure i know what i'm talking about with this gt35r. my brother had a stock 97 GST...

ask the kid if you'd like (luizhgato)

 

[grail97]

if i could go back...... do a 20g fmic kit and 550-650 fic's and a gm maft and call it a day...

 

[JPJ2007]

Woah Guys, Im sorry about that I didnt check the post before I hit submit.
That Isn't what I meant.
a 35r Isnt too big for a dsm. Thats not what I meant. I know its not too big.
I meant a 35r is big compared to a 16G for a daily driver. Spool time wise, there is a large difference. It's not the first turbo IMHO I would throw
on my gsx as a daily. Im more for the Fast spool rather than the Higher rpm screaming like a raped ape Power. (Nothing wrong with it but not my style)
For daily driving Id say the fast spool would be more enjoyable than spooling at 4800 rpms.
The 500 on a 16 was posted in post #38.
I understand 16Gs are normally taken as a 300-350 power turbo. But I was just stating what Has been pushed from the 16G. And Yes Im def a noob and have alot to learn. But I was simply adding my 2cents. Sorry about that.
Continue on, I just wanted to clear myself up.

 

[cory51191]

well thanks for everyones help

 

[cory51191]

I think there is way too many people reading and not doing. Everyone has becomes a expert on this board lately.

OP if you have been in a car with a 35r and did not notice lag then you have not ridden in a car with a small turbo. Spool on a 16g is around 2800 give or take, spool on a 35r is in the 4800 range. That is a big difference.

People need to remember that just because a very few have made big power on XX turbo does not mean others will make the same power with XX turbo. Alot of these guys are running so many other things that give a little extra hp here and there to make it all add up. Most people see the limits of a 16g around 300-350whp. These turbos are a blast to drive and make daily driving rather fun.

I would still keep researching but only truely believe about 10% of what you read.

Good luck

i kno this is a very old thread but his spool was around 3,700-3,900rpm

 

[dsm-onster]

Bullsh!t if it was on a 2.0L motor. It better be smaller than a single scroll .63 a/r housing. If it were twinscroll then definately possible. If it were an FP3065 then definately possible; but an fp3065 is NOT a gt35r no matter how identical the compressor wheel is to the gt35r compressor wheel.

the bolton fp3052 bearly spools that fast. It has a gt30 turbine wheel not the larger gt35r turbine wheel. The td06sl2 20g spools about that fast. The td06h 20g spools a little later. . . was that a 4th gear pull or a 3rd gear pull?

 

[kp116]

+1 I have to agree with dsm-onster. I didn't even see that quick of a spool time on my bolt-on hx40... Full boost for me (35+psi) was right around 4100-4300rpm's. My buddy had a stock 7-bolt with a 35r with the garret .63 housing and didn't see full boost (25ish) until around 5k. Now the car is a 2.3 stroker and still didn't out spool my bolt-on hx40 on my 2.0, if i remember correctly.

 

[cory51191]

Bullsh!t if it was on a 2.0L motor. It better be smaller than a single scroll .63 a/r housing. If it were twinscroll then definately possible. If it were an FP3065 then definately possible; but an fp3065 is NOT a gt35r no matter how identical the compressor wheel is to the gt35r compressor wheel.

the bolton fp3052 bearly spools that fast. It has a gt30 turbine wheel not the larger gt35r turbine wheel. The td06sl2 20g spools about that fast. The td06h 20g spools a little later. . . was that a 4th gear pull or a 3rd gear pull?

just because u guys haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist .

i'm not one to bullshit. people do that for attention and i get plenty of it, offline.

 

[kp116]

just because u guys haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist .

i'm not one to bullshit. people do that for attention and i get plenty of it, offline.

Your buddy must have a magical engine... What is the set up on the car? What boost level is it at? I have never seen or even heard of a 35r hitting full boost before 4k... Thats like a 16g spool time. I am not even sure if the hta86 would even spool that fast.....

 

[dSmgs-T]

his "buddy" probably has a non HTA 35r to boot