2G Front left cv axle/half shaft

[jokerzlife]

hey I’m new here. I just picked up a 1997 eagle talon tsi awd. Was wondering if the front left cv shaft and the intermediate shaft where interchangable from manual and auto transmissions?

 

[randman2011]

The half shafts are identical between manual and auto (and also 1g/2g) AWD but the intermediate shafts are two different lengths. The difference is 1/2". I think the automatic is the one that's longer but I am not sure. The splines are all the same so some have had luck putting the shorter one in the transmission that requires the longer one but you can't go the other way around.

Another thing to note is that the intermediate shafts are different between 2ga (95-96) and 2gb (97-99) because of a redesign of the AC compressor bracket. I picked up a 2gb intermediate shaft and 1g AWD auto left front half shaft from PerformancePartout for my 98 GSX and installed them less than a month ago. Other partout vendors may have them as well. What is your reason for asking?

 

[Falcon91]

if you're deleting the AC don't forget to get a spacer. Found that out the hard way

 

[jokerzlife]

Well I was asking cause right now the front left cv shaft keeps pooping off the intermediate shaft and from what I can see there’s no c clip to hold it in. I found this but I don’t know. https://www.mitsubishipartswarehouse.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-intermediate-shaft-mb620806 from what Ive read a pre 96 manual intermediate shaft will fit my 97 but correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[jokerzlife]

Or do you guys think I should just remove the intermediate shaft and try to grind out the c clip and replace. Kinda been noticing that these parts are pretty scarce. Can some one post a pic of where the c clip is supposed to go.

 

[randman2011]

I put a 95 intermediate shaft onto my 97 engine back in the day. I recall that it used a bunch of washers as spacers but I can't remember if I kept the AC bracket on the engine or not. The car that the engine went into didn't have AC anymore.

I have not personally messed with the C clips before but they're just spring-loaded metal. Replacing them shouldn't involve any grinding of any kind. If there is no existing one then installing one is just a matter of sliding a new one over the end of the shaft and snapping it into place.

That part link that you sent is just the shaft, not the bearings or bracket. The bracket is what is different between the years so the shaft would work for you, but I think those bearings are press fit and you should definitely replace them if you're messing with them anyway. Do you have a press to replace them?

 

[jokerzlife]

I do have access to a press. Is there any place where you can get the whole assembly new?

 

[randman2011]

The part diagram shows the shaft and the carrier assembly separate, so no. You can buy both pieces and assemble them yourself. Or you could buy a used one and either replace the bearings or not. I did not replace the bearings in my used one because I was in a hurry and it's not that difficult to deal with that later.The suspension comes off easy enough.

JNZTuning has been my go-to for the harder-to-find parts, but their website has been down for construction for a while. You could call them and see what they have to offer if you really want a new assembly, but it sounds to me like you just need to source a new C clip.

 

[smbgsx]

if you're deleting the AC don't forget to get a spacer. Found that out the hard way

Did you break the boss on the block for the axle support? I have this issue right now and my remedy was to weld a large stud to the block on the remaining good boss. I was wondering if you came up with a better solution? I don't really have welding skills other wise I would have liked to fill in the broken area and re tap. but the tight space also makes it difficult to do anything accurately.

 

[jokerzlife]

I think I’m just going to try to remove and replace the c clip and and if that don’t work new shaft and bearings. Thanks for the info.

 

[jokerzlife]

Hey everyone I have a follow up question. Can I drive the car 4 miles to my garage without the front left cv shaft hooked up? Would it hurt it any?

 

[randman2011]

As in, the half shaft is just floating in the engine bay? Even with the center LSD you won't find yourself going anywhere with one half shaft disconnected. Even if you had a welded center diff, the front is still open.

Even if you were just rolling downhill to the shop, the half shaft would spin and rub against everything that it can come into contact with. I'd expect a torn CV boot. Most of the rest of the damage would be cosmetic.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, it would be a bad idea if it were possible, but it's not even possible without a locked center AND front diff.

 

[jokerzlife]

It does move without the front half shaft dunno why it can, but I know what you meen by free wheeling. Just want to know If doing maybe 15 mph to get to the garage would hurt anything in the front end? Not extremely worried about the cv shaft getting messed up. It’s 4 miles and it’s the front left cv shaft

 

[smbgsx]

the front diff is open, so he's saying when you apply engine torque it will transfer all of the torque to the wheel with the least traction. as far as your front diff is concerned that would be the one without the axle.
I would think you'd lose fluid also if you pulled the shaft out of the transmission and drove around.

 

[jokerzlife]

If I pull the intermediate shaft it would leak was talk about the cv shaft. I was planning on just driving it to the shop so I can fix it. I have a new problem now posting new post thanks for the help. I understand the open front diff part just doesn’t explain why I can do a rwd burnout in the car without the front left cv shaft not hoocked up.

 

[jokerzlife]

Ok got my other problem fixed back to the cv problem. I looked at the intermediate shaft meaning I took it out and I didn’t find a c clip.. any info?

 

[motomattx]

That thing looks like it could be broken where the clip would have been.

 

[motomattx]

You will also notice that in this picture there is a C-clip listed for a shaft like that.

https://www.mitsubishipartswarehouse.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-axle-assembly-mr232155/?c=bT0x

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