FP Red guys whats the scoop on this turbo??

[GstRacer]

ok well i wanna know the low down on this turbo from people that have it not people that here about it whats the spool time on it wioth a full 3inch exhaust no cat and 272's and a fully ported head stock size valves for 20psi. what about the diff in hp and the diff in spool vs the 8cm housing and the 7cm housing. this is a street car but i use that term loosely so how would it be if you cruising at like 70 and floor it ?? just give me the whole low down thanks a lot

 

[TRBOBLU]

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/...oduct_Code=NTDSMFPRED&Category_Code=DSM-Turbo

They say something in there about guys running it on street cars prefer the 7cm.

 

[Tx97GSX]

I have a FP Red but do not have cams yet and right now with my current setup full spool is around 4500rpm give or take. These turbo really won't wake up until 21+psi.

 

[GstRacer]

well witch cm housing do u have? also what psi are you running and do you know your hp. I have 272's and a sbr stage 5 head so I'm trying to see if spool will be diff and by how much from 7cm an 8cm houseing

 

[herostar]

The difference between the 7cm and 8cm housings will be something like 200rpm. I run a 60-1 (fp red essentially) on my 2.3L. I love it. I know it's not much to compare to a 2.0L, but this thing flows some serious air!

 

[dsm-onster]

The difference between the 7cm and 8cm housings will be something like 200rpm. I run a 60-1 (fp red essentially) on my 2.3L. I love it. I know it's not much to compare to a 2.0L, but this thing flows some serious air!

Hmmm, are you referring to the difference in spoolup on your stroker. Or was there 200 rpms difference when running stock displacement? I was under the impression that the spool differences with the RED were significant when switching housings with a 2.0. I just want to clear up my own confusion .

You're running stock cams too. Would that make the spool up characteristics between the two housings not that much different? I really don't know.

Man a stroker with stock duration cams... if you get that 60-1 to full boost anywhere near 3500 rpms you probably have some serious grunt off idle!

EDIT: Oh wait! You have the SBR G60-1 turbo. I didn't notice that. Where have you heard about the spool differences? I would be interested in knowing about this too. As some have said that the minimal increase in flow up top is not worth the loss is spool time. But I would think that the larger housing should contribute quite a bit more flow up top. I don't know. Hearing about all these guys dropping the 8cm^2 housing in favor of the 7cm^2 housing has me baffled. Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of having a 60-1 compressor wheel? . . . or does the TD06H turbine wheel in the 7cm^2 housing flow way better than I'm giving it credit for?

 

[Archer Fabrications]

ive got someone that might trade me an FP red for my 7 bolt when i do my 6 bolt swap.... im not doing a stroker motor... so im kinda curious how the RED does in a 2.0..... with stock cams.... will be upgrading to 272's in the future... have mahle pistons scat rods... .020 over bore... and supporting mods DSMLink will be running all of this

 

[JusMX141]

Stock cams and intake manifold you'll be limited to probably 20psi before it starts to surge. Be ready for a lag-monster....this is really a race-only turbo.

 

[phunny]

I reach 34psi at around 5,400 rpm. In all fairness I found that we tuned the car with a serious boost leak . I will have some more info tomorrow after the re-tune.

It's also a 2.3

 

[Archer Fabrications]

fp green sound like a better work around? not as laggy? ill be trying to hit 400 on a e3 16g but i doubt that turbo will last long.

 

[D's GS-T]

My buddy had the red, and it was a wicked turbo, but on his 2.0 it was a freaking lag monster. I'd go with the green. The red would be better on a 2.3, but on a 2.0 It will probably suck for the average person unless your car is alot more race oriented.

What green is it, the old or the new HTA? I don't know alot about the HTA green, but I'd buy the old school green in a heart beat.

 

[red1993gsallmt]

My hx40 car I have now puts my fpred car to shame!! And the fpred car had a magnus intake on it,the hx40 car has a stock one. both cars used the same head and similar bottom ends.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

the green im looking at is actually the old frank 5. The red has a clipped turbine 15 degrees ported 7cm hotside and comes with a tial 38mm waste gate with o2 dump and o2 housing, im gonna have 1000CC PTE's and i have a walbro 255lph, stock cams at the moment, but over bored pistons .020 will that still really be that much of a lag monster? i heard full boost is at 4500RPM..which is about what im gettting with my blown T25.