finally got an engine

[DDualan]

so i just picked up a stock 4g63t with 70k on it, what maintenance should i do before bolting this thing in ? i got a fresh timing belt and im getting fresh fluids.

 

[wrencher]

The belts, water pump, hydraulic tensioner,the t-belt idler pulleys even the tensioner arm if worn.
If it's questionable I'd do it now while it's out & easier to do.

 

[DDualan]

what about like replacing the gaskets?
anything else come to mind?

 

[4cedFed]

Oil pan gasket if leaking, rear main seal, valve cover gasket if leaking, new plugs, pcv, water pump if it wasn't changed..

 

[DDualan]

recommended spark plugs?
oem water pump or aftermarket ?

 

[dsmrebel084]

NGK plugs and a oem waterpump

 

[ed1380]

Gmb waterpump is repackaged oem. Cheaper too

 

[SupremeDsm]

Gates makes a nice water pump. And its only $50!! =)

 

[4cedFed]

Ngk bpr6es is stock, if you plan to turn the boost up, ngk bpr7es, one step colder.

Iv never had problems with water pumps from advance auto or Pepboys..

 

[DDualan]

Thanks guys, i appreciate the help ordered a water pump and spark plugs, if anything else comes to mind let me know !

 

[keltalon]

Do a compression check just to be on safe side. Remove all spark plugs put engine on stand and turn with electric drill if something looks out if norm you save yourself lots of work.

 

[BogusSVO]

Check/replace the thermastat. Do a leak down test while you have it on the stand to make sure the HG is holding

 

[T is for TURBO]

Oil pan gasket if leaking, rear main seal, valve cover gasket if leaking, new plugs, pcv, water pump if it wasn't changed..

Definatly the rear main, I would also inspect for leaks around the front case and oil filter housing

There is no oil pan gasket, just a sealant

 

[ed1380]

Definatly the rear main, I would also inspect for leaks around the front case and oil filter housing

There is no oil pan gasket, just a sealant

There is an aftermarket one

FEL-PRO OS 30665 C Oil Pan Set Gasket | eBay

 

[T is for TURBO]

Well then... touche I guess!

 

[ramsack]

If you want a fresh point to start from, replace every gasket and check every spec in the engine. If you are confident in where the car came from, just replace anything that is leaky, along with some minor mileage-related things like belts, the water pump, plugs, wires, check for boost leaks, and test most of the sensors.

 

[4cedFed]

Definatly the rear main, I would also inspect for leaks around the front case and oil filter housing

There is no oil pan gasket, just a sealant

OEM came with sealant however they do sell oil pan gaskets made by felpro (not a cheap cork gasket either) and sure other companies too. I have 2 siting in my garage.. Lol

 

[DDualan]

For those of us who are not mechanically inclined how do I check for leaky gaskets?
How do I check for boost leaks and how do I test sensors

 

[BogusSVO]

For those of us who are not mechanically inclined how do I check for leaky gaskets?

It will be wet with whatever fluid it is supposed to keep inside.

 

[bryanwheat]

OEM came with sealant however they do sell oil pan gaskets made by felpro (not a cheap cork gasket either) and sure other companies too. I have 2 siting in my garage.. Lol

They do make gaskets for them, but that doesn't mean that you should use them. They seal like ass compared to a nice bead of grey rtv.

 

[DDualan]

It will be wet with whatever fluid it is supposed to keep inside.

Lol okay that sounds logical

 

[4cedFed]

They do make gaskets for them, but that doesn't mean that you should use them. They seal like ass compared to a nice bead of grey rtv.

Lmao wow again with you... Seriously...Do it right and it won't leak. I use the gasket with black rtv and never had a problem with it leaking, and have put 50k+ on dsm motors... So it's all in the person doin it.

 

[bryanwheat]

Lol do it right and it won't leak. I use the gasket with black rtv and never had a problem..

Well doing it right involves no gasket. Look at the pan rails, they have a valley that is made to hold the bead of rtv in place. Now look at a pan that is made for a gasket such as a transmission pan. There is a ridge that sticks up to dig into the gasket so that it doesn't squish out. Without the gasket will squish out before you get to the torque spec. Reaching the torque spec is critical because it stretches the bolt and allows it to he held in place. Without the use of loctite the bolts will back out after a while and you will have a leaky pan. Every single car that i've worked on over the years with a leaky pan was caused by installing a gasket. IF you correctly use the rtv and torque the bolts properly than it will never leak. You will literally have to cut the rtv out just to get the pan off.

 

[4cedFed]

Lol ok dude.... Rofl.

Just to be clear with you, I have never once used loctite on my oil pan bolts and they have never backed out on me, and as I said I have used both, sealant an gasket, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and have not had a leak. So if you did it and it leaked for you, as I said, you obviously didn't do it right..

I gave my opinion, he can use it as he wants, I didn't ask for nor do I need your 2cents.. Been building and messing around with dsm's for just short of 10years.. I know what I need to know and know what works and what don't already from trial and error...

 

[V12 Killa]

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