Evo 1 Gsr Awd Lsd Transmission In 2g

[twicks69]

Kelvin, do you still have the SSX pressure plate with B-series ceramic disk in it?

 

[Lou98GSX]

With awd your putting the power to the ground now that's why the clutch wont hold time to upgrade .

 

[keltalon]

Update on the clutch the clutch pedal wasn't adjusted it holds better now.

 

[twicks69]

So what did you all break? 3/4 hub and slider implosion already?

 

[keltalon]

So what did you all break? 3/4 hub and slider implosion already?

where did you get that from? The clutch doesn't hold the power doesn't mean anything broke. You wish right! get your facts right buddy I had one simple question about a machined hub vs an actual evo hub and my concerns about the machined hub in my car and He jumped all over me about wpc. tre is an angry about the junk transmissions he is build and mad that we are having more success at building our own trannies than he is. He needs a life . Ill keep laughing.

Do you mean the conversation with jon at tre bashing wpc?

 

[ceedawg]

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So what did you all break? 3/4 hub and slider implosion already?

Spoke to him yesterday, said cars a beast ,should be updating soon said tranny is lovely! Just buttoning up!

 

[keltalon]

Here is the proof that the clutch can't hold the power case closed! pulling the trans to install one that can before the 1/2 mile event! 3rd gear pull.

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Yeah tmz clutch can't hold the power i was going to remain silent about it but since tim brought it up then i have to let it be known. Id think it be rather difficult to break somthing with a clutch that can't hold the power to break something right!

 

[bastarddsm]

Try an act puck disc. Grippiest disc I have ever used

 

[keltalon]

Try an act puck disc. Grippiest disc I have ever used

Bastard I know you have had your time with batman and robin shady business I should have listened to you!

 

[bastarddsm]

I would stay with the SBC pressure plate if you can. I am pretty sure they are made from exedy componets, where as am act pp is made from junk China seeco parts. The act clutch discs are good though.

Hey now don't be putting words in my mouth. I don't have anything to say about the clutches. My only grief is with the 4 spider cross shaft.

I only mentioned the disc because I know there are tons of differnt puck compounds out there, and I know the one act uses is a hold of son of a bi***. SBC might choose a puck with less grip to promote life and driveability.

 

[Dsmkauai]

Can't wait to see a good pull kels! the main issue is once the clutch slips and gets glazed there's nothing you can do and it just gets worse and worse. Well nothing but pull the trans and resurface everything. Which usually you can just use a scotch pad on a die grinder

 

[bastarddsm]

Pucks don't glaze.

 

[GST with PSI]

Yeah tmz clutch can't hold the power i was going to remain silent about it but since tim brought it up then i have to let it be known. Id think it be rather difficult to break somthing with a clutch that can't hold the power to break something right!

What clutch was this, and how much abuse had it seen previously?

 

[twicks69]

Sorry all I asked was if you killed a hub and slider since you called my phone and Jon at TRE looking for parts. all I heard from Jon was that you were very rude to him because you were looking for a 3/4 hub and slider and he didn't want to sell one of his last Evo 3 hub and sliders. swearing and shittalking doesn't get you very far. both of us have been very helpful over the years.

Did you measure disk thickness before you put the transmission back in? where is disengagement range at currently?

The clutch can handle plenty of power, and quite a bit of abuse from most people's driving styles. if you want a clutch that isn't a fuse, then run a Feramic 6-puck and let's see how long your trans lasts. I sold you a great clutch that was as high capacity and gentle as possible to be a great street clutch with good longevity, and it suited your power levels in FWD mode which is what you were back then.

 

[miliman13]

Pucks don't glaze.

Now I'm curious; why is that? Any links or references?

Intrigue""*

 

[keltalon]

Sorry all I asked was if you killed a hub and slider since you called my phone and Jon at TRE looking for parts. all I heard from Jon was that you were very rude to him because you were looking for a 3/4 hub and slider and he didn't want to sell one of his last Evo 3 hub and sliders. swearing and sh**talking doesn't get you very far. both of us have been very helpful over the years.

Did you measure disk thickness before you put the transmission back in? where is disengagement range at currently?

The clutch can handle plenty of power, and quite a bit of abuse from most people's driving styles. if you want a clutch that isn't a fuse, then run a Feramic 6-puck and let's see how long your trans lasts. I sold you a great clutch that was as high capacity and gentle as possible to be a great street clutch with good longevity, and it suited your power levels in FWD mode which is what you were back then.

Wait a second I called you to talk about the clutch but your voice message said you was on vacation. I called jon inquiring about a true evo 3 hub slider and asked his opinion on the quality of the machined one in the tranny and expressed to him that with my power level I am a little concerned as stated above he has some built up anger about my posts on my confidence in wpc and he without answering my question he went on a rant about wpc as if he was waiting on this opportunity to give me a piece of his mind. I blasted him and hung up the phone. Now as far as the clutch thats why i called to see what you had that you could recommend as an upgrade to my current clutch that all that was.

 

[twicks69]

If you want to keep it a single disk, you can try a 6-puck Feramic. The other option would be to do a QM gear drive twin with street flywheel and race friction disks, and then the Competition Clutch forged clutch fork, OEM TOB, OEM flywheel bolts.

Regarding the 3/4 hub and slider, yes, that will be a failure point in your transmission. The broached 3/4 hub is much stronger and already properly clearanced to fit the double synchro. They are discontinued parts, I have 1 or 2 left, Jon has a handful left; that's it so I understand him not wanting to sell them.

With regards to the WPC, from my experience with it, I tend to side with Jon on it for most applications. It is useful for certain purposes.

 

[keltalon]

If you want to keep it a single disk, you can try a 6-puck Feramic. The other option would be to do a QM gear drive twin with street flywheel and race friction disks, and then the Competition Clutch forged clutch fork, OEM TOB, OEM flywheel bolts.

Regarding the 3/4 hub and slider, yes, that will be a failure point in your transmission. The broached 3/4 hub is much stronger and already properly clearanced to fit the double synchro. They are discontinued parts, I have 1 or 2 left, Jon has a handful left; that's it so I understand him not wanting to sell them.

With regards to the WPC, from my experience with it, I tend to side with Jon on it for most applications. It is useful for certain purposes.

OK on the clutch. As far as the wpc that's my personal choice if it is useless it was my money spent therefore no one should have issues with me for doing what I want to do to my personal items that's where I have the problem. Furthermore I have yet to see failure with it so imo it was money well spent. I will be in touch concerning the clutch.

 

[twicks69]

The clutch assembly and other install components are all in stock and ready to ship.
https://www.tmzperformance.com/shop/quarter-master-dsm-gear-drive-6-leg-street-twin/

 

[Tiki2777]

Go with what bastard recommended or you could grab a sprung 4 puc disk from SBC also. That's if you're still wanting a single disk system. Otherwise PTT twin, Exedy twin...etc

Still excited to see how she does

 

[GST with PSI]

tre is an angry about the junk transmissions he is build and mad that we are having more success at building our own trannies than he is. He needs a life . Ill keep laughing.

I called jon inquiring about a true evo 3 hub slider and asked his opinion on the quality of the machined one in the tranny and expressed to him that with my power level I am a little concerned as stated above he has some built up anger about my posts on my confidence in wpc

C'mon Kelvin, get real. I would bet my life Jon doesn't give a damn about what you do or don't WPC treat. You were trashing his work then calling his shop for help all in the same breath...What did you really expect?

The fact that Tim continues to help you really speaks to his customer service and overall demeanor. Just act cool and collected like you normally do, and I guarantee you'll get a lot further than you currently are. That, and try and consider advice when it's given, even if you don't necessarily agree with what's being said. Most people here are just trying to help you, and you're making it pretty damn difficult with some of your responses.

The SSX pressure plate is rated at 500+ Ft-lbs of torque, so it's not very likely the clutch won't hold the power (If that's the clutch you're running, as you never answered my question). I'd say based on the abuse the clutch disc probably saw prior on your prior build, your issue likely lies there.

You installed a fresh new Competition flywheel when the clutch went in, correct? Did you check the step height out of the box?

 

[keltalon]

C'mon Kelvin, get real. I would bet my life Jon doesn't give a damn about what you do on don't WPC treat. You were trashing his work then calling his shop for help all in the same breath...What did you really expect?

The fact that Tim continues to help you really speaks to his customer service and overall demeanor. Just act cool and collected like you normally do, and I guarantee you'll get a lot further than you currently are. That, and try and consider advice when it's given, even if you don't necessarily agree with what's being said. Most people here are just trying to help you, and you're making it pretty damn difficult with some of your responses.

The SSX pressure plate is rated at 500+ Ft-lbs of torque, so it's not very likely the clutch won't hold the power (If that's the clutch you're running, as you never answered my question). I'd say based on the abuse the clutch disc probably saw prior on your prior build, your issue likely lies there.

You installed a fresh new Competition flywheel when the clutch went in, correct? Did you check the step height out of the box?

Man you have not a clue. I will just laugh

C'mon Kelvin, get real. I would bet my life Jon doesn't give a damn about what you do on don't WPC treat. You were trashing his work then calling his shop for help all in the same breath...What did you really expect?

The fact that Tim continues to help you really speaks to his customer service and overall demeanor. Just act cool and collected like you normally do, and I guarantee you'll get a lot further than you currently are. That, and try and consider advice when it's given, even if you don't necessarily agree with what's being said. Most people here are just trying to help you, and you're making it pretty damn difficult with some of your responses.

The SSX pressure plate is rated at 500+ Ft-lbs of torque, so it's not very likely the clutch won't hold the power (If that's the clutch you're running, as you never answered my question). I'd say based on the abuse the clutch disc probably saw prior on your prior build, your issue likely lies there.

You installed a fresh new Competition flywheel when the clutch went in, correct? Did you check the step height out of the box?

for minute!

The SSX pressure plate is rated at 500+ Ft-lbs of torque, so it's not very likely the clutch won't hold the power

Well that explains the slip . Its been a very good clutch setup! But as mention above now that its in the awd its a different ball game the power now everytime i get on it has a date with the ground unlike the fwd where no hook up would happen. Definitely time for upgrade.

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[GST with PSI]

The SSX pressure plate is rated at 500+ Ft-lbs of torque, so it's not very likely the clutch won't hold the power

Well that explains the slip .

Does it? Or is it the clutch disc like we've been telling you all along?

I said 500+ Ft-lbs of torque because the main limiting factor on how much torque that clutch assembly will hold is based more so on the clutch disc than the pressure plate. The SSX PP with the 6-Puck feramic clutch disk is rated at 650+ Ft-lbs of torque, and would be more than enough to handle the power your car is making. Why do you think Tim reccomended it? If you weren't so worried about bickering and acting like a child, you may have actually been able to read and comprehand what he was saying: http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/evo-1-gsr-awd-lsd-transmission-in-2g.498087/page-17#post-153603617

http://tmz.motobyte.net/wp/shop/sou...bishi-galant-vr4-1992-1995-mitsubishi-evo-1-3

Update on the clutch the clutch pedal wasn't adjusted it holds better now.

Additionally, you've failed to answer any real questions about what may have actually caused the issue. You keep blaming the clutch, but can you tell me what the step height of the flywheel when you installed it? What was the clutch disc thickness? Where's the clutch fork currently sitting in the window? How new/old is the pivot ball and clutch fork? How long did you drive the car with the clutch out of adjustment, and how was it driven?

I'd bet it's more likely that user error or installation error are to blame, not the clutch. Not to mention, you drove the car with the clutch out of adjustment, which could have very well cooked it. I'd say it's likely that all the abuse the disc saw on your last build plus driving with it improperly adjusted is what finally killed it.

Keep ing all you want...It's not going to help you get your car on the road any faster.

 

[keltalon]

Does it? Or is it the clutch disc like we've been telling you all along?

I said 500+ Ft-lbs of torque because the main limiting factor on how much torque that clutch assembly will hold is based more so on the clutch disc than the pressure plate. The SSX PP with the 6-Puck feramic clutch disk is rated at 650+ Ft-lbs of torque, and would be more than enough to handle the power your car is making. Why do you think Tim reccomended it? If you weren't so worried about bickering and acting like a child, you may have actually been able to read and comprehand what he was saying: http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/evo-1-gsr-awd-lsd-transmission-in-2g.498087/page-17#post-153603617

http://tmz.motobyte.net/wp/shop/sou...bishi-galant-vr4-1992-1995-mitsubishi-evo-1-3





Additionally, you've failed to answer any real questions about what may have actually caused the issue. You keep blaming the clutch, but can you tell me what the step height of the flywheel when you installed it? What was the clutch disc thickness? Where's the clutch fork currently sitting in the window? How new/old is the pivot ball and clutch fork? How long did you drive the car with the clutch out of adjustment, and how was it driven?

I'd bet it's more likely that user error or installation error are to blame, not the clutch. Not to mention, you drove the car with the clutch out of adjustment, which could have very well cooked it. I'd say it's likely that all the abuse the disc saw on your last build plus driving with it improperly adjusted is what finally killed it.

Keep ing all you want...It's not going to help you get your car on the road any faster.

The car is running on the road what are you talking about and yes I will keep laughing because when I do upgrade the clutch it's going to be just plain awesome!

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[GST with PSI]

The car is running on the road what are you talking about and yes I will keep laughing because when I do upgrade the clutch it's going to be just plain awesome!

Glad to hear it.