Cant choose? DSM or 240sx?

[Sicotic]

I had a 92 Laser RST. It was FWD. I sold it tho bc i joined the Army. Now i have some money and looking to buy a new car. I loved my 240sx but i loved my laser. I wanted to get a 2g if i did get a DSM. I dont know what to so i think i will ask some fellow DSMer's. It is so hard!

 

[supermonkey5555]

tuff decison man both great cars, and have alot to offer, i have a 98 GSX love the car to death and i would take the car to the grave with me, but i always wanted to own a 240sx. were i live (western, new york) there arent lot of 240's running around and goes the same with the GSX, if you wanna be sucked into your seat and reach 11's with a few bolt-on and not hurt your wallet i would take the gsx, if you like the whole drift thing and the rwd is alot of fun, 240 will cost more in the long run! if you want my opinion i would buy an or atleast put a nice down payment on EVO 8, or 9.

 

[Zdrummer15]

I think you get a lot more for your money with an awd DSM. One of my buddies and I test drove an RB25det swapped 240 that he was interested in. The ultimate reason for not buying it was the price. The guy wouldn't budge from his asking price of over 8 grand. Other then the swap the car was only lightly modified and was in need of some maintenance work. This all a couple weeks after I bought my 95 TSi AWD for $4800 with 86k on it and no mods by the only previous owner. To top it all off we drove to meet up with the owner of the 240 in my Talon and he couldn't even believe how cheap I got my car for what it was.

 

[rock1t]

I just got rid of my 240sx and now have my 2g tsi awd. I miss the 240 for one reason drifting. WHat i dont miss is people that dont know car's telling me i have a nice honda prelude. LIke what the hell you dont see the big ass tire's on the back and th tiny 205's oin the front. Wow 235's on the back. And unless it's turboed their not that fast.

How do a 240 and a prelude look similar? and wide tires are a 235? I have 225s on my cavalier, and I have 245's on my talon all around.

Also people, forget the RB and the SR's. I have did those swaps, but the funnest 240 I was in was my buddies LS1 swapped 240. After he shatttered his oil pump at the track he pulled it and we put a 408 stroker in it, with a nasty cam and some heads. Only thing that was a bi*** with the LS swap was the headers. Just had to make some custom brute force bends in it to get the power steering rack to go through them.

And depending on what you want to do with your next car, is the reason you should buy your next car. Not our opinions.

DSM's can't drift? What is that all about? I love drifting my talon, and once you learned how to actually drift a AWD car, its amazing. 240's are definitely easier to slide, but DSM's can and will. Trust me.


So my question to you. What are you looking to do in your next car?

 

[AndrewD5418]

240's are junk. You have to really inspect it for rust *frame rail*.

 

[rock1t]

240's are junk. You have to really inspect it for rust *frame rail*.

DSMs are junk. You really have to inspect the entire chassis. I have worked on numerous 240's because that was all my friends drive. A few SRs, a few RBs, a LS1, and the 408 stroker car. All the 240's I have been on never had near the amount of rust that my DSM's have had.

 

[95talontsiwv]

I had a 1995 240sx se with ka24 it was done right an kep getting my ass kick buy dsms . i think its easier to get the power out of the dsm , where i live right now evo top dog ( hopfully not for long ) next are a few 1g bad ass cars, An if you like the rear wheel drive for playing or drifting you could always take an awd an do a front shaft elimator an run rear wheel . I think power for money your dsm is a better build.

i have a 95 talon fwd for sale needs engine if you want to build a dsm .

 

[1stGenTSi]

DSMs are junk. You really have to inspect the entire chassis. I have worked on numerous 240's because that was all my friends drive. A few SRs, a few RBs, a LS1, and the 408 stroker car. All the 240's I have been on never had near the amount of rust that my DSM's have had.

Maybe you should go over to the 240 forum then. You might fit in with your crappy 245 Sumitomo's your so proud of. Just ### your dsm is a rust bucket doesn't mean they all are. I don't think I even have a microscopic spot of rust on my 18 year old car. It has spent it's whole life in Texas though.

 

[DECODER22]

I dont know where you get your 240s from, but most of the 240s in the Chicagoland area are rust buckets. I think ive seen more 240s rusted then DSMs, but then again all older Japanese cars that are driven in the snow and salt around here rust.

As far as the quality of the two cars there is a vast difference. 1Gs are built like tanks. Interiors are total cockpits and cars move out like crazy. The 2G is similar but doesnt feel as solid IMO. Unless maybe the late model 2Gs. 240s on the other hand aren't as solid. They develop lots of rattles and loose parts with time. The more you drive them the more you notice and more things may begin annoying you.

However with a DSM you will make crazy power and the sky is the limit. With a 240 you have a large variety of possible engine swaps or you can build up the KA and get awesome numbers with it. In the short run the DSM will get you more power for less money. Long term the 240 is a very versatile platform so it gives you lots of options. As far as handling the S-chassis has by far way more options. There are more coilover brands for a 240SX then there are turbo options for a DSM .

But in the end its you that drives the car so you have to drive both and figure out which one you like more.

 

[tunethis]

Which platform would you rather have right now, RWD or AWD?

 

[asrdave]

have fun driving that 240 in the snow

 

[eltoshan]

have fun driving that 240 in the snow

Snow tires + LSD rear is a lot of fun in the snow.

 

[mindset]

Any car will rust in the winter.

Not to mention 1g's weigh more, which I think is a plus to safety, yet they still outrun many lighter cars.

 

[Sicotic]

I loved my Laser but i had to do alot to get to 300hp.. But i guess stock fuel system could of been the problem. .. I like to drift it was fun, but i love AWD to.. If i got a DSM i like the 97-99 body styles but love the 6-bolt engines. I wouldnt buy both bc when i ship i can only take 1 car.

 

[rock1t]

Maybe you should go over to the 240 forum then. You might fit in with your crappy 245 Sumitomo's your so proud of. Just ### your dsm is a rust bucket doesn't mean they all are. I don't think I even have a microscopic spot of rust on my 18 year old car. It has spent it's whole life in Texas though.

Don't worry, I am on NicoClub as well. I just think from my personal experience dealing with both cars and multiple different ones in their perspective fields, that DSM's do rust more than 240s. But all you need to know is that all cars rust, and depending on where you live and how you take care of them, will determine how fast and how bad the rust can be.

I have eliminated all the rust on my current car, and have tried to prevent it as well.

have fun driving that 240 in the snow

I have been in my 86 Rx-7, all last night and most of the day today in the snow and ice. I love it. Wish my DSM was complete though.

And for the guys/gals that think I am trying to push a 240, i'm not.

240's are a little cheaper in the long run and have a better reliability factor to them.

Now if you want to make big power on factory internals and pull 1.60s 60 ft times, and also take corners harder and faster than any FWD/RWD, I would always recommend a DSM.

But remember do a build properly and don't half ass the shit, or it will break, and will leave you on the side of the road.

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

Snow tires + LSD rear is a lot of fun in the snow.

Snow tires + AWD w/ LSD rear = more fun in the snow

 

[rock1t]

AWD w/ LSD rear = more fun in the snow

fixed it for you.


who needs snow tires anyways?

 

[NiKKUH_BOViCE]

WHAT!
American Turbo muscle vs ### rice rocket

 

[rock1t]

WHAT!
American Turbo muscle vs ### rice rocket

What's American in this Debate? Nissan and Mitsubishi are not domestic makes.

 

[JayRolla]

Depends on what you want to do with the car.

If you like to spin, slide and drift than go with the 240!!

If you want to go fast with lots of traction and be a 1/4 mile king, go with AWD DSM.

I miss RWD but I would never sell my dsm for RWD. I would get a second car to have fun with. You eat up to much tires and risk the chance of wrecking with a RWD. Well at least I would because I love to drift.

 

[StManTiS]

Well i had this same exact issue and didn't know which to chose. In the end the deciding factor is how much money will be poured into the car.

With a 240sx the stock engine is Rubbish unless you turbo it, which will run you about 3k done right, a lot of people opt for the SR20DET swap, but i've always disliked that engine because it costs you up the wazoo and doesn't put out impressive enough numbers. So in reality if i had 5k and had a 240sx i'd make the KA24DE into a DET and be happily pushing out larger numbers than the SR20.

Now that brings the issue right along to the second point. What if i had 5k to spend and a choice of cars? I'd choose the AWD DSM every time. AWD is just that good, and the 4G63 engine will get much further with that money that a KA24 can (and obviously further than the rubbish stock SR20).

So now it comes down to the price of the actual car. A 1G AWD DSM in good condition will run you about 2k where i live, a 240SX around here would be closer to 1800 for a good S13 (both are 5spd of course, non of that automatic nonsense). Now to get an S14 would ramp it up to 3-4k which is the same as an AWD 2G DSM. SO in reality the prices are the same. The one thing that woudl make me choose the 240sx is if i wanted a drift car. But i don't and thats why i have a DSM.

 

[1kwik4g]

Just get a DSM faster, nicer looking, easier on the wallet, and like they said the 4g63 is a turbo block, so its bulletproof as is...And if u really war RWD get a rx-7 they better and faster than nissans 240 i sold a dsm then got a rx7 and i love the RWD thing but then went back to DSM. And will always be a DSMr

DSMs are junk. You really have to inspect the entire chassis. I have worked on numerous 240's because that was all my friends drive. A few SRs, a few RBs, a LS1, and the 408 stroker car. All the 240's I have been on never had near the amount of rust that my DSM's have had.

I bet most dsms u saw with rust were awd, and spend there winters kicking ass while the 240 rwd was sitting in a garage ### it wont grip in the snow.

 

[cbr600teardrop]

my 240 had rust on it if you got the money id say evo

 

[dsm-onster]

Snow tires + AWD w/ LSD rear = more fun in the snow

add a welded center diff. even MORE fun.

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

add a welded center diff. even MORE fun.

You're absolutely right about that. I was going to say that, but didn't want to hear all the groaning about a welded center diff and drivability etc.etc. I currently have the awd/lsd/welded center diff combo and with some 185/65-15 snow tires (borrowed from my Ford Probe dd) it makes for a pretty sick snowmobile.

 

[DSMDriver69]

well look at it this way. Your posting on a DSM web site so yea we are all going to say go with a dsm. And if so get a awd dsm if you plan on building a drag car or just a fast dd. On the other hand if your leaning towards a 240 get a swapped 240 with like a sr20 or rb20 (really any rb motor will pull hard.)