cams

[96_AWDtalon]

i want to add about 60 horsepower but still drive my car everyday how should i go with cams. can i only start treads under this section cause im new, but help with cams dont know what to do
Thanks,
Kevin

 

[VergeTSi]

do you already have exhaust and fuel upgrades? if not then you're probably better off starting there

 

[92nolatist]

Ill agree with VergeTSi on this one, definitely upgrade these parts. But if I had to say anything about cams, go with either 264/264 or 264/272 (intake/exhaust) combo.

 

[96_AWDtalon]

do you already have exhaust and fuel upgrades? if not then you're probably better off starting there

the exaust is after market but the down pipe is the only part stock will a down pipe add horsepower and the fuel mods are stock

 

[96_AWDtalon]

Ill agree with VergeTSi on this one, definitely upgrade these parts. But if I had to say anything about cams, go with either 264/264 or 264/272 (intake/exhaust) combo.

what is all involed to do cams

 

[playitlouddsm]

If you are looking for install instructions look on the prostreet site, there are instructions for installing cams on the site. My Pro Street - Powered by vBulletin

 

[->PrOjEcTGS<-]

If you have the fuel and intercooling for it, up your boost 6 psi!

 

[VergeTSi]

i dont know how much hp you will gain from the down pipe but the difference is definitely noticeable, i recently put my stock one on for smog and my car felt so much slower.

 

[Srt4RacerDave]

If you do decide to upgrade your camshafts, I can highly recommend Crower's 272/272 cams. They are priced more then fair, and work great! The lope they create really makes your car sounds mean too. Great product.

 

[z24frank]

I dont think cams alone will give him 60 horsepower on a stock car with exhaust though.Use the same money and upgrade your fuel and then up the boost a little=60 horsepower.

 

[96_AWDtalon]

If you do decide to upgrade your camshafts, I can highly recommend Crower's 272/272 cams. They are priced more then fair, and work great! The lope they create really makes your car sounds mean too. Great product.

if i run these cams am i able to daily drive it or is 264/264 better for daily driving

 

[96_AWDtalon]

I dont think cams alone will give him 60 horsepower on a stock car with exhaust though.Use the same money and upgrade your fuel and then up the boost a little=60 horsepower.

i can run 17-18psi on on stock injectors and a stock fuel pump how muck psi can i run with fuel mods without breaking things

 

[talonsteve25]

I think you need to do some reasearching in the tech upgrade paths, VFAQ ect

 

[Srt4RacerDave]

if i run these cams am i able to daily drive it or is 264/264 better for daily driving

Well, either way, they are BOTH very streetable. I'd recommend going with the 272/272 because they can be used on the street with no problem, and you're going to get more power out of them. If you check the website, you will see that for the 264 is says just street use and for the 272 combo it will say street/ some track. This means they will be fine on the street, but, if you want to go to the track every now and then, you're still covered

Oh, and, not to mention, I think they both cost the same price. Why not go for the ones that get you more power?

 

[dsmchiz]

Well, either way, they are BOTH very streetable. I'd recommend going with the 272/272 because they can be used on the street with no problem, and you're going to get more power out of them. If you check the website, you will see that for the 264 is says just street use and for the 272 combo it will say street/ some track. This means they will be fine on the street, but, if you want to go to the track every now and then, you're still covered

Oh, and, not to mention, I think they both cost the same price. Why not go for the ones that get you more power?

I have run the 264s for a long time. Great for bottom end torque but depending on the setup I would suggest the 264/272 or just go with the 272/272. You need to make sure your set up right before just going out and buying cams. I just went out and bought cams before I did any research on my gsx that just had exhaust and I was pissed. You can make so much more power with just a few simple (less expensive) mods and still have a street able car that makes the power your looking for without spending all that cash. Here is a link to a nice upgrade sequence buschur has had on their site for a long time Buschur Racing - Your source for Mitsubishi racing parts and accessories

What are you goals for the car? You need to buy the parts that are going to get you closer to your end goal and not just for a couple months.

 

[BoredDSM]

A lot of misinformation here. If you guys read he is running a t28. Cams normally take away from low end power and give more too end. Running a t28 with cams would be pointless because his power band would never get high enough to use the full potential of the cam's. Please consider doing basic upgrades before even going to cams. Fuel mods are very important and using cams with a stock fuel system almost sounds stupid. You can easily make more power going with more worthy upgrades like fuel mods and just turning up the boost.

 

[96_AWDtalon]

I have run the 264s for a long time. Great for bottom end torque but depending on the setup I would suggest the 264/272 or just go with the 272/272. You need to make sure your set up right before just going out and buying cams. I just went out and bought cams before I did any research on my gsx that just had exhaust and I was pissed. You can make so much more power with just a few simple (less expensive) mods and still have a street able car that makes the power your looking for without spending all that cash. Here is a link to a nice upgrade sequence buschur has had on their site for a long time Buschur Racing - Your source for Mitsubishi racing parts and accessories

What are you goals for the car? You need to buy the parts that are going to get you closer to your end goal and not just for a couple months.

im am just looking to make my car run low 12s or high 11s i really haven't done my research but my friends are telling me to get cams for more horsepower i just got the car and am able to run 20 psi but i get fuel cut i think that i have a good fuel pump but need injects and a safc (but dont quite know what a safc does or how to use i really don't even know what it is.

 

[pboglio]

Fuel management and fuel mods first without question. A case of bad boost creep on a stock fuel system is enough to melt down the motor.

Cams work just fine even for a T28, HKS 264/264's here. Matter of fact I'm going quite a bit bigger on cams as I feel the 264's aren't enough for where I'm at right now.
These cams don't affect the low end whatsoever and the midrange power increase is substantial. Cam swap is pretty easy, just follow the posted link and follow the instructions to the letter: RRE Web Cam Installation Instructions

 

[turboking15]

for your goals the stock cams will suffice. i would put the money towards fuel and tuning mods. 190 pump, 650 injectors, safc, wideband, logger, things like that. look on the vfaq and follow the upgrade path. it will get you to where you want and provide you with parts that will all work together quite well.

 

[z24frank]

i can run 17-18psi on on stock injectors and a stock fuel pump how muck psi can i run with fuel mods without breaking things

Thats news to me.I was told not to go past 15 pounds safely?

 

[sonik619]

Thats news to me.I was told not to go past 15 pounds safely?

If you don't have a way to monitor your car it can be bad, logger etc.

 

[Srt4RacerDave]

im am just looking to make my car run low 12s or high 11s i really haven't done my research but my friends are telling me to get cams for more horsepower i just got the car and am able to run 20 psi but i get fuel cut i think that i have a good fuel pump but need injects and a safc (but dont quite know what a safc does or how to use i really don't even know what it is.

Maybe I can help you out a bit. a sAFC is a device that will let you alter, meaning richen or lean out your car's fuel. When you add bigger fuel injectors and a fuel pump, you need something that will let you control how much fuel your car gets. Having either too much or not enough fuel will result in a power cut. Though I agree that cams will help you reach your power goal, I think there are some other mods that will help you first. The amount of power you make before the cams will decide how much power the cams will give you to an extent. If your not making more much then stock power, cams will help you, but not nearly as much as if you have a bigger turbo and supporting mods. You could probably start with bigger injectors. I'm current using 550cc injectors with my 16g at 20psi. I'm planning on going with Forced Perf.'s Big 28 turbo, and when I do, I'm going to buy 680cc injectors. I'd probably be better off with 750's, but I don't want to have to replace my apexi safc with a new tuner. I also see your in Brook Park. Not too far from me. If you were interested I could definately help you out with your mods if you ever needed. Adding cams alone will not get you to yours low 12 goal, but atleast you know what your aiming for.

 

[StavRedline]

In my opinion going for cams, esp real long duration ones, are ridiculous on a turbo car till you really need to, esp a small capacity motor like a 4G.

The advantages of a turbo car is you can get ridiculous amounts of power WITHOUT resorting to messing up low/mid power by going for bananas duration cams and crazy port sizes like you would need to when tuning a n/a engine.

You have forced induction, take advantage of it to the fullest, even the old Offy Indycar engines etc used under 260deg duration for 1000 horse or so.

Dont think ive ever seen a 16valve 4cyl that cant do 200bhp per litre on stock cams with enough boost really, even on some that had been built to have tiny ports as was designed as turbo all along (99% of engines that have common n/a versions have much bigger ports even in turbo form).

And boost = torque. And torque = fun (and broken transmissions )