Brass core plugs

[chasin 8's]

I'm a machinist from.I work for my uncle at his machine shop.I can usually find whatever we need,but I can't seem to find brass freeze out plugs for anything metric.Buschur says that you don't need em,but everytime we've poured a block we've used brass plugs due to the lime in the block filler.I don't think they make metric brass freeze out plugs.

 

[project_tsi]

Im not sure where exactly to get the ones you want either, however FP sells a kit that includes them. http://linux.forcedperformance.net/...roduct_Code=MDBSPKit&Category_Code=DSM-Engine

Also, Maybe try calling Mitch up at Engintecs, If anyone would know 100%, it would be him.
http://engintecs.com/

 

[chasin 8's]

Cool,thanks.

 

[Defiant]

And please don't ever call them "freeze" plugs again in your life. They're core plugs, and won't do shit if the cooling system freezes.

 

[chasin 8's]

Gimme' a break.Bust my nuggests about something worth bustin' em' for.
Don't ever again in your life.....
Right....

 

[Defiant]

Gimme' a break.Bust my nuggests about something worth bustin' em' for.
Don't ever again in your life.....
Right....

Okay, then. Learn to spell, too.

 

[Talon007]

And please don't ever call them "freeze" plugs again in your life. They're core plugs, and won't do shit if the cooling system freezes.

Hi, they are called frost plugs. I see you live in California so I can see where your lack of proper information comes from. They are there for expansion and compression of the block when it gets cold (-30F etc) and warms up repeatedly, due to driving cycles.

 

[project_tsi]

Hi, they are called frost plugs. I see you live in California so I can see where your lack of proper information comes from. They are there for expansion and compression of the block when it gets cold (-30F etc) and warms up repeatedly, due to driving cycles.

Defiant is correct. "Core/Frost/Freeze plugs will not protect the block if it freezes w/ water or likewise in it. I have seen multiple GM/Ford/Chrysler engines that have froze and cracked. The "whatever" plugs have not popped out any time that I have seen, or even attempted to save the block.

 

[Talon007]

Defiant is correct. "Core/Frost/Freeze plugs will not protect the block if it freezes w/ water or likewise in it. I have seen multiple GM/Ford/Chrysler engines that have froze and cracked. The "whatever" plugs have not popped out any time that I have seen, or even attempted to save the block.

They are not there to protect the block from freezing, if you freeze the block you are an idiot to begin with. They are there for the compression/expansion when the block gets heat cycled in cold weather.

 

[SBstar]

Uh according to an autozone associate they are listed as freeze plugs.

 

[chasin 8's]

Okay, then. Learn to spell, too.

WOW .Are you here for a grammer lesson,or to talk cars?I can see you spend way too much time on the computer and not enough on your car.

 

[chasin 8's]

They are not there to protect the block from freezing, if you freeze the block you are an idiot to begin with. They are there for the compression/expansion when the block gets heat cycled in cold weather.

Are you just talking to hear yourself talk.I don't know about you guys,but I'm obviously not a newb.I'm just new to this site.

 

[peregrine]

Are you just talking to hear yourself talk.I don't know about you guys,but I'm obviously not a newb.I'm just new to this site.

ill vouch for this guys ugly mug. hes done more than 90% of this board combined. and yes, it is freeze plugs.

 

[BrokenTsi]

chalk another 1 up for freeze plugs.

 

[biglady112]

Add 1 for freeze plugs. And one for defiant is an ass.

Steven

 

[Defiant]

The core plugs are there to fill the holes left where the inner sand mold was held by the outer mold in order to form the coolant passages during the casting process.
When water freezes, it doesn't wander. It starts where it sits, and expands. It won't go taking a trip out the core hole, not even as far as a quarter-inch away. It'll just break whatever it can when it decides it's going to take up more space.
As for the story about them being for block flex during heat cycles- wow. Just wow.

 

[biglady112]

The sand mold thing is right. They have to cast them some how. I have just referred to them as freeze plugs.

Steven

 

[HighPsi92GST]

The core plugs are there to fill the holes left where the inner sand mold was held by the outer mold in order to form the coolant passages during the casting process.
When water freezes, it doesn't wander. It starts where it sits, and expands. It won't go taking a trip out the core hole, not even as far as a quarter-inch away. It'll just break whatever it can when it decides it's going to take up more space.
As for the story about them being for block flex during heat cycles- wow. Just wow.

Wow I thought this whole thread was going to be wrong information until this was said.

 

[peregrine]

The core plugs are there to fill the holes left where the inner sand mold was held by the outer mold in order to form the coolant passages during the casting process.
When water freezes, it doesn't wander. It starts where it sits, and expands. It won't go taking a trip out the core hole, not even as far as a quarter-inch away. It'll just break whatever it can when it decides it's going to take up more space.
As for the story about them being for block flex during heat cycles- wow. Just wow.

this arguement isnt about what theyre for. its about what theyre called.

http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&part=SLP-381-8016&view=257

 

[Ludachris]

ill vouch for this guys ugly mug. hes done more than 90% of this board combined.

Well, good. That's why this site is here, to share info and get that other 90% educated. Maybe he can stick around and help us in the effort. We could use a few more helpful guys who are willing to share some experiences in a friendly way. Unfortunately in the DSM world, the trend is to learn all you can from people who are willing to help, then turn around and be a sarcastic asshole to the new guys who are in the same newbie position we were all once in. It's the "cool" thing to do to flame newbies for being newbies. I'm not sure why, but unfortunately, it seems to happen more in the DSM world than in other communities. Elitist attitudes do nothing to further the DSM community, and they're just as cancerous as the spreading of misinformation in my opinion.

And for all those who are throwing out insults, be more careful with how you talk to people in our forums. We require a minimum level of respect to be shown around here for all members no matter how long they've been registered, unlike other forums. If you can't deal with this, you'll likely end up getting banned. There is no acceptable reason to call someone an "idiot" or a "crappy DSM ballswinging chestbeater" on our site. If you disagree on a post, then disagree. If you can't back up your argument with enough information to eliminate the need for an insult, you need a better argument or more work on getting your point across. Just leave out the insults.

Back on topic... I've always heard the plugs referred to as freeze plugs. Whether that name is accurate of the job they perform, I don't know. I guess you can call up the parts department and ask the proper name. But come one, how much does it really matter? Not enough to get in an argument about it online, that's for sure. Come one guys, don't get all pissy over something so trivial.

 

[Ludachris]

Posted by Big Woo in a separate thread to answer this one:

Since the first thread was closed before I could answer the original question that was asked.
I started this thread to offer the following.

35mm deep cup brass freeze plug NAPA P/N 2198171