Auto vs Stick

[edgar7654]

how much faster is stick vs auto in a gst...
ive only driven standard this would be my first automatic
thank you and god bless you

 

[mezzio]

I do see where you're coming from. This is my first DSM, but every single other car I've owned the automatic transmissions are far more unreliable then their manual counterparts. And its not really that hard to put the car in neutral at a stop light, it takes all of 1 second to do. The only time I've ever regretted owning a manual was when I was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic on the highway in Cape Cod summer traffic. And when you drive a stick, shifting becomes second nature, so you don't really notice it after a long hard day at work.

Funny anecdote: My friend was telling me about this guy he works with. He's 40-something and has driven manuals his entire life. The first time he had to drive the work truck, which was an automatic he was seriously confused. "I don't get what to do? How do I get it in first?"

I personally prefer manuals... I'm not a straight line racer... hell, I'm not even a car racer... but I was just throwing up a few points, and honestly just trying to say without saying that one is NOT better than the other. with my current knee condition, they get painful in bumper to bumper traffic and in town with a million lights and pedestrians who don't pay attention if you're driving on THEIR road (yes, thats the mindset in madison... the road belongs to everyone except those driving on it). guess I'm just getting old... and I'm not even 30 yet

 

[dented_coffee]

WOW this thread was funny as hell. Between being busy and living life I have been reading all of this over the past 3 days and spit drinks, dropped stuff, and cried in laughter at allot of the posts on this thread .

I just recently switched to auto in my 1994 Eagle Talon AWD. I had one hell of a time finding the EVER RARE 7-bolt AWD flex plate. I did find it and now shes in and ready. I did a MOD that I will be posting a tech post on with my shifters on the steering wheel mods and gear indicator and what not.

I drove my Talon when it was a 5-speed and the slipping clutch was annoying as shit but I got use to it. Yes driving a stick gets to be like a second nature because I would get into a different vehicle and be feeling for the clutch and its not there . But going auto is probably gonna be one of the best things I have done to my Talon besides needing to change a 7 year old dried out timing belt that I have put over 3000 miles on now (if anyone has one that there willing to sell or give to me I would very much appreciate it with my financial situations right now).

A DSM is a DSM no matter the year or what type of trans it has. Technically the 2G isn't a DSM if I remember all the facts I have read on that info there. I could be wrong so please show some consideration and don't bash that.

We should be here to help each other out! Not to put down others and act like a kindergarten bully. We all know what happens to bullies, they end up being bossed around later in life by the ones they picked on.

I like both AUTO and 5-SPEED, I chose auto for many reasons. It's easy, less parts broken, safer to drive in the winters around here, comfort from my arthritis, can't shift or do to much with my right hand after I had surgery for cutting 4 of my tendons. Just like I switched to 1G Eclipse seats from the 1G Talon seats because my bad back. It's a preference of comfort for me really.

 

[dsm-onster]

I smite all you manual guys as I pass by. I just spent 5 more minutes thinking how I could have my setup make up for the drivetrain loss. So the real difference ends up your slower shifts and lower boost at the line.

 

[TunaTalon]

I just spent 5 more minutes thinking how I could have my setup make up for the drivetrain loss.

A more efficient torque converter has lower loss at low speeds.

A multi-disk lock up on the TC has no loss at higher speeds and handles higher power levels.

Higher compression ratio pistons make more power off boost.

Higher stall speed TC lets the engine go immediately to higher RPMs while the tires are just starting to dig into the pavement.

 

[dsm-onster]

YES! especially. . .

A more efficient torque converter has lower loss at low speeds.

There's a loose 3500rpm converter and a tight 3500rpm converter

 

[floader]

Auto's win races, Sticks are for high school kids.... my 2 cents

 

[1991GSXAWD]

I've raced auto, manual, swapped one of my cars from manual to auto. In my book, the fast cars are manual, the quick cars are auto. I knocked off .5 sec. when I did the manual to auto swap but the auto does not have the pull on top end like the manual cars so you loose some mph. On the street I prefer the manual. If running a high stall converter in a hot summer the motor generates so much heat that you have to keep both fans running to keep it cool if driving around the city. The nice thing about auto is that the car is more consistant that is why it is so popular in drag racing where the manual is popular in road racing.