Difference Between Auto & Stick GSX

[CharlieHustle]

Hey guys, I have a '97 Eclipse GSX and its a auto I've always wondered is there any significant difference between the auto and the stick other then the obvious. Thanks for the help!

 

[TheRealist]

Off the Line there is a huge difrence. But 20 rolls and such shouldnt be much of a difrence but if it's stock after 100MPH auto seem to be slow since it's on a 4 speed. You have an auto never race a manual off the line. we both got 97's nice but just difrent make. i have an auto and my friend has a 98 maunal off the line he beats me but 20 rolls and such its not a big difrence, he misses a shift or is Early on a shift i own him easily , if he is good on his shifts witch he is, its close race. my number one rule, never race a maunaul off the line, and if you do, witch it's not good to do but i do it sometimes is Hold the Brake Ref to about 4 rpms then when its go time punch it, thats the best way to atleast hang with a manual, but whare on brakes ect.. it's not good to do.

 

[twack]

the auto has a 13g turbo rather then the 14b, also the auto has smaller injectors 390 rather then 450

 

[AWDtsi1995]

The manuals stock have i believe 2 psi more than the autos stock.

 

[CharlieHustle]

cool I thought I was the only one who had a auto turbo. People always try to clown because I have a auto but it's the guys with Hondas and Acuras and when we go at it I totally own

 

[wolf20043]

I will be able to let you know more about what I think in a few days on this, as we just bought an auto as well. With the new end clutches and shift kit, with the 450's and 14b it should be a bit of fun, and a break from having to shift all day. Been doing that for 20 yrs and would enjoy being able to drive without needing a free hand for a change.
Mike

 

[AWDtsi1995]

I will be able to let you know more about what I think in a few days on this, as we just bought an auto as well. With the new end clutches and shift kit, with the 450's and 14b it should be a bit of fun, and a break from having to shift all day. Been doing that for 20 yrs and would enjoy being able to drive without needing a free hand for a change.
Mike

I pretty much have that setup but with a 3500 stall. Tons of fun.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Incorrect. That is only on 1g's. There is no difference other than the obvious whatsoever. Both are equipped with a t25 turbo and 450cc injectors. I would also challenge the comment about a manual being faster off the line. You can stall an auto up off the line by holding the brake and pressing the gas and launch with boost. I pulled some pretty nice 60 ft's in my auto with it all stock. btw, the car in my timeslip is an auto awd.

the auto has a 13g turbo rather then the 14b, also the auto has smaller injectors 390 rather then 450

 

[Chaddycakes21]

^^^^ Very impressive times for an Auto.
Ive actually owned both auto and manual GS-T's. Ill just say its night and day. Off the line my auto was such a dog, even when i did rev it up and hold down the break. For performace and just pure enjoyment id go with a manual tranny anyday.

 

[Zmann42087]

For performace and just pure enjoyment id go with a manual tranny anyday.

No kidding... I just got my B&M short shifter installed. Man, let me tell you... its an absolute blast to slam through 5 gears now! I just fell in love with my DSM all over again.

 

[Jeff822]

I have an auto 98 gsx, too launch i usually hold the brake and rev it to about 3k rpms and it takes off pretty good enough to throw your head back in the seat. I drove a manual transmission suby 2.5rs for about 2 weeks and hated it and sold it and picked up my auto dsm.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Once again I have to disagree on the performance aspect. I gaurantee you my auto shifts faster than anyone who has posted on here. I also gaurantee you that you miss alot more gears than my auto does. I personally don't like the chance of missing a gear when money is on the line. It is all in personal preference, alot of people rag on autos, but that is just due to lack of knowledge.

 

[wolf20043]

I know the stroker that we put into the white '96 was fast as hell before we pulled it out of the '95.
Mike

 

[dsm-onster]

Once again I have to disagree on the performance aspect. I gaurantee you my auto shifts faster than anyone who has posted on here. I also gaurantee you that you miss alot more gears than my auto does. I personally don't like the chance of missing a gear when money is on the line. It is all in personal preference, alot of people rag on autos, but that is just due to lack of knowledge.

Is your automatic "built"? How high can you rev? I have been interested in an automatic build... How strong can you build an automatic (what HP level)?

 

[CanadianTSi]

A properly built Automatic will be quicker then an equally modded Standard all day...

Some people are realizing this and converting there cars to automatic.

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Is your automatic "built"? How high can you rev? I have been interested in an automatic build... How strong can you build an automatic (what HP level)?

Mine is just a stock rebuild with end clutches and shift kit. There are cars in the 9's with a built auto and its holding up fine. Importperformancetrans.com sells alot of nice parts for these cars. You can rev as high as you want, right now I only rev to 8k b/c im on the stock head and cams, so no point in going higher. Soon I will be revving to 9-9500.

 

[TheRealist]

Mine is just a stock rebuild with end clutches and shift kit. There are cars in the 9's with a built auto and its holding up fine. Importperformancetrans.com sells alot of nice parts for these cars. You can rev as high as you want, right now I only rev to 8k b/c im on the stock head and cams, so no point in going higher. Soon I will be revving to 9-9500.

I Agree with you 100 Percent

 

[RedRex02]

Once again I have to disagree on the performance aspect. I gaurantee you my auto shifts faster than anyone who has posted on here. I also gaurantee you that you miss alot more gears than my auto does. I personally don't like the chance of missing a gear when money is on the line. It is all in personal preference, alot of people rag on autos, but that is just due to lack of knowledge.

I don't know man. I have had many stick shift cars. When I was 17 I used to miss alot of shifts, but I don't think I have missed a shift in about 4 years!

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

I don't know man. I have had many stick shift cars. When I was 17 I used to miss alot of shifts, but I don't think I have missed a shift in about 4 years!

Well then congrats, you are one in a million. But do you think you can shift faster?

 

[RedRex02]

Well then congrats, you are one in a million. But do you think you can shift faster?

, I had my A4 LS1 and it shifted pretty quick for stock, but a few buddies had shift kits and stalls in their fbodies and they shifted damn fast! Could I shift faster... maaaaaaybe if I powershifted like my life depended on it, and still, maybe not as fast, .
I never said I could shift faster but stock for stock, I could only imagine the auto bein significantly slower.
Jon

 

[dave99gst]

2g a/t AWD have diff gearing in the rear

 

[Ultimatedsm]

Once again I have to disagree on the performance aspect. I gaurantee you my auto shifts faster than anyone who has posted on here. I also gaurantee you that you miss alot more gears than my auto does. I personally don't like the chance of missing a gear when money is on the line. It is all in personal preference, alot of people rag on autos, but that is just due to lack of knowledge.

Auto at a certain point is better than a manual when you start to make big horsepower figures I agree with that. For example, all those pony cars or muscle cars that do 7 or 8 second 1/4 are autos (Glide tranny) pretty close anyway. But one thing about a manual, nothing beats a manual in fun factor. You are in control of the gear. Lets say in an auto cross course or road coarse you would want a manual over an auto because you have control of the gears. At the drag strip all you need to do is go in a straight line and the auto can provide with you perfect shifts, so I would prefer an auto on the drag strip. Bottomline:

Manual = Better at road coarses/Autocross and higher fun factor in general

Auto = Better for drag racing.

 

[BIGBLAZE79]

With supras, the auto is just as fast as stick. You have to have the appropriate upgrades to make an auto just as fast or faster. Stock for stock nothing beats manual AWD 6K launches. Your clutch disk turnes to cat hairs and smells like dirty poontange, but man its fun. HA-HA. A 2600ACT was a huge diff on my car, too bad I broke my tranny case. I can't help it. "It just tastes so good once it touches your lips." We need a smile with a beer!

 

[GILZTSIAWD]

Auto at a certain point is better than a manual when you start to make big horsepower figures I agree with that. For example, all those pony cars or muscle cars that do 7 or 8 second 1/4 are autos (Glide tranny) pretty close anyway. But one thing about a manual, nothing beats a manual in fun factor. You are in control of the gear. Lets say in an auto cross course or road coarse you would want a manual over an auto because you have control of the gears. At the drag strip all you need to do is go in a straight line and the auto can provide with you perfect shifts, so I would prefer an auto on the drag strip. Bottomline:

Manual = Better at road coarses/Autocross and higher fun factor in general

Auto = Better for drag racing.

I totally agree with that statement. If my car was more than just a drag car I would definitely have a manual, even in an every day driver.

 

[Zmann42087]

But one thing about a manual, nothing beats a manual in fun factor.

Exactly. I also feel like an auto tranny takes away from the art of driving to some extent. Where are all the heel-toe downshifts? Rev matching?... in a manual. Sure, an auto might be a little bit faster in a straight line than a manual, but hell, if I miss a shift thats a driver error. In that case I don't deserve to win anyways! Call me crazy, but I like to think that maybe the driver should have a bit of skill as well as the car.

Simply put, you just cannot get a full driving experience with an automatic transmission.