anyone else have lower honeycomb problems? [Merged 10-6]

[wishIhadaturbo]

I can't be the first person that has done this. I busted out both honeycombs in my MAF. Does anybody sell replacements ? Or have an idea about what I should do. The car is idleing very rough now and misses whenever I am not accelerating.

Will

 

[Jc'sLaserRs]

so yea removed my mas honeycombs and well havent started it but it was stated that u can remove the smaller of the 2 would this make the car run bad if so ??

 

[GVR4592]

The sensor is junk, you need a new one.

 

[Talesin]

On a 1G, the lower one can be done. The upper... get a new MAS, dude. It's going to run like utter crap. Probably will run better with the MAS entirely unplugged.

 

[tqmx1]

So i'm doing some work to my car and decided to free air restriction in and out. In a month my project will be over, anyway i removed the large center honeycomb from my MAS. According to RRE it stated that its a don't do, even though that answers my question i threw away the honeycomb, so is anyone running without it and if not what will happen if i do.

Guys listen to him he might be so smart that he can make his own fireing order (Quote from Smokey Yunick)

When some one like RRE says don't touch it and then you go ahead and do it and then throw away the parts, Well good luck with your project.

 

[95CarbonEclipse]

Yes... please tell us that you threw it away and THEN read on RRE that you shouldn't touch the MAS. Otherwise, what's the point in telling you what we think you should or shouldn't do if you're not going to listen anyways?

 

[kittay]

Just curious if anyone else has removed the honeycomb from the MAFt?

Do you think it is more restrictive then it is efficient for directing the airflow?

Also, if anyone has removed it, did you get any weird noises afterwards?

I had taken it out of our spare maft and now it makes a ghost-like WHOOOOOOOO sound right before it starts spooling up??

 

[1992awdlaser]

I have mine removed because I have seen them come loose and pieces go into the engine. I don't have any airflow metering problems.

 

[kittay]

Did you have any weird noises right before boost after removing it?

 

[bane3d]

I read your profile and it says that you are running a 2g Maft in your car? From what I remember reading on 1000Q, on a 2G, you are not supposed to remove any of the gold honeycomb: 1000 AAQ - Terms

Now has this information changed? Dunno.

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[kittay]

NO no no.. sorry

I have 2 cars that are running right now.
The silver does have a 2g maf.

The black cherry is the one I'm talking about. It has the MAF-t

 

[1992awdlaser]

Mine doesn't make any wierd sounds.

bane3d, pretty sure she is talking about a gm maf.

 

[kittay]

Weird, I wonder if it's the air rushing through making the noise or something else?? But that is all I had changed since the day before.. well and welded up the cracked o2 housing, but it had never made the noise prior?

But it straight up sounds like a Halloween soundtrack with the wooooo noise.

 

[bane3d]

Thank you for the clarification. I still hold by my link in my post that also includes information on a 1G although is not pertinanent to her application with a GM Maft setup.. So 1992awdlaser, you said you removed the entire honeycomb without any problems? Is your idle still fine? Are you running the stock 1G throttle body? Did you have have to compensate at all in DSMLink for anything? I'm curious for the sake of knowledge.

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[1992awdlaser]

So 1992awdlaser, you said you removed the entire honeycomb without any problems?

Correct. I also have a couple friends that have done the same and they just have chipped ecu's

Is your idle still fine?

With all the parts on my car it idles better than when it was stock. Nothing changed. All I did with the idle was up it to 1,000. The only reason I did that was because I don't want the locals to know I have cams. It will idle fine at 750, just lopes a little from the cams.

Are you running the stock 1G throttle body?

Yes. Only thing done to it is the fiav is blocked off.

Did you have have to compensate at all in DSMLink for anything?

Not at all.

 

[kittay]

Thank you for the clarification. I still hold by my link in my post that also includes information on a 1G although is not pertinanent to her application with a GM Maft setup.. So 1992awdlaser, you said you removed the entire honeycomb without any problems? Is your idle still fine? Are you running the stock 1G throttle body? Did you have have to compensate at all in DSMLink for anything? I'm curious for the sake of knowledge.

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I know you had asked 1992awdlaser, but I had removed mine, and it idles fine, stock TB with fiav/ isc blocked off, and didn't do any compensation with ostrich. The only thing different is the loud wooooo noise?

 

[bane3d]

I appreciate the responses. Thank you both of you.

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[ImportWarrior]

=i was wrong....

 

[1992awdlaser]

Don't know if any of you care, but I will be removing the metal bar that is in the maf pretty soon. I am going to compare logs to see if I gain anything.

You can see what I'm talking about in this picture:

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[1gDSM4g63]

I read on another forum there is a purpose for the honeycomb. Oddily enough it increase the airflow or it will help the sensor.

 

[1992awdlaser]

I read on another forum there is a purpose for the honeycomb. Oddily enough it increase the airflow or it will help the sensor.

It's supposed to straighten the airflow not increase it. LSx guys take the screen out also without any ill effects.

 

[Cooper4X]

when I bought my car a year ago it had the honeycomb removed and it spitted and sputtered like a bi***. put a new one in and fixed most of my problems.

 

[kittay]

I read on another forum there is a purpose for the honeycomb. Oddily enough it increase the airflow or it will help the sensor.

Link???

 

[1992awdlaser]

when I bought my car a year ago it had the honeycomb removed and it spitted and sputtered like a bi***. put a new one in and fixed most of my problems.

I assume you are talking about the stock maf?

 

[1gDSM4g63]

It's supposed to straighten the airflow not increase it. LSx guys take the screen out also without any ill effects.

Yep, that right. It will straighten the airflow productively towards the sensors.

There is a possibility the sensors will read inconsitently causing you to go lean. Unless you have DSM Link to correct this stop messing with the airflow.

Honeycombs Forums

 

[kittay]

Yep, that right. It will straighten the airflow productively towards the sensors.

There is a possibility the sensors will read inconsitently causing you to go lean. Unless you have DSM Link to correct this stop messing with the airflow.

Honeycombs Forums

I have Ostrich which has all the functions that link has. And I finally got the AFRs to 10.5 so I'm not worried about going lean..