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98 Eagle Talon - "Onyx"

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Update 3.0

Alright, it's been a little while - I got delayed for a week due to a break in and having to repair another vehicles wiring harness because the jackasses had to try to steal the radio and ended up hacking the harness to heck.

So, here we go. I found a semi-local guy with a 6 bolt shortblock with everything I need to drop in and go, besides the CAS wiring. We setup a time and place, and met late one evening in a town called Winona in southern Missouri. Jesus Christ was that a scare. The town looks like something from a Silent Hill game....rather creepy.

Anywho, we picked it up, avoided deer on the way home, and got back late. The next day I contended with removing the flywheel until I got smart and picked up a 1/2" electric impact. Those suckers didn't know what hit em'.

The engine is a stock 6 bolt. It has had a BSE, new front case, new water pump - and all in all seeing as it was running about a week ago? In pretty darn good condition. I am going to use this block and run it with my recently modified and identified head until I get the 2.3 up and running at the beginning of the year.

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As you can see, the timing side of the engine is very clean. I was surprised when I removed the timing cover. There was very, very little residue anywhere. A draw towel wiped what was there without anything to smear.

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Removed the oil pan - which was in great condition by the way - and checked out the rods for play in the bearings. They are in spec side to side and absolutely no in and out play. Good to go on rod bearings. Oil squirters look damn near brand new. I'm excited.

Aside from the block, which I won't be able to do much with until the timing components, studs, and head gasket comes in, I took some time and dug through the stack of paperwork I had on the Talon. Looks like this talon spent a LOT of time in the hands of Polk back before he died. Everything in the car was done by him. Gauges, suspension, head, turbo - everything. It's a very lucky and rare find and I honestly feel a little blessed. I not only came across my dream car but the car had the hands of one of the most respectable names in the game - Back before the platform was as big as it is now. It's sad that he's no longer with us, but I'll be getting something of a legacy back up and on the road. Call it my sense of gratitude.

The head, specifically, is what I was curious over. I had no idea if it was in spec, if the right springs were used.. I was going to send it off to Bogus to have him check it out for me. That is until I found the paperwork on the head signed by Polk himself. This head is not only near immaculate, but built by one of the best. ;) I'm confident in it. Now just have to pop the cams back in since I drilled it out to accommodate the 6 bolt block and drop her on.

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Don Polk passed in 07' - April 15th, 2007 to be exact. A mere 3 and a half months after the car was completed. It's one of the last that he had his hands on. The man built heads and such for Shepard, so I think I can feel very confident in his work. He was also at the shootout a time or two. I'm sure David and the rest know him as well. It's really a bit of an honor.

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This is just part of the list. I didn't want to include prices or anything - but here's some of the original work done. The car ran an 11.4 shortly after this. Last year the bottom end threw a bearing and that was the end. Now it's in my ownership. Time to get her up and flowing something with a bigger turbo and larger injectors on a better tuning solution. Perhaps we can get her a bit faster.​
 
Nice find!!! I hope to see some good updates on this thread.
 
You want it? I'll toss it in the trunk on the way to the shootout if you'd like. :)
 
Hells yeah, I'll take a split thrust block. Nice thing is, moving to Sioux Falls will knock 2 hrs off the drive to the shootout. :)
 
Update 4.0



Alright, so today I got the rest of the parts in to assemble the block. I was a bit excited. I ended up ordering a Gates belt, tensioner, Composite Head Gasket, Throttle Body gasket, etc. from Parts dinosaur. Parts arrived in good time and Bruce was a pleasure working with as always. Great quality stuff.



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Anywho, I first went ahead and reassembled the head (reinstalled cams and rockers). Made sure everything was set to spec. She's looking great! Everything is still in spec. Polk did an amazing job. You'll notice that the light is pretty bad. Haha.



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Next I went ahead and got the headstuds installed and slapped the headgasket down. It was nice knowing I was slapping 6 bolt headstuds in opposed to 7 bolts. ;) As you'll see the pistons have seen some slight valve contact in the past. I did make sure to go over these and smooth them out before the head was dropped on.

I torqued from 30 to 60 to a final 90 ft/lbs starting from the inside out. With the headstud holes drilled out I was a little scared that one might have been off-center but luckily everything was great and the head sat right down on the block flush!



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Now this is the best tool you can invest in if you're ever assembling an engine. This little handy dandy timing tool makes life a ton easier. Get the marks lined up, slip this little guy in, and go about your timing as if it's the easiest thing in the world.



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As you'll see here I dropped the valve cover on. After realizing that I haven't ground out the material on the 7 bolt engine mount to accommodate the 6 bolt water pump, I decided that the humidity was irritating and plopped the valve cover down to keep moisture to a minimum. I'll also be going over the block one more time to get as much grime off as possible. It's pretty clean as it is, but cleaner never hurt. :) As you can see the waterpipe can use attention.I personally think it'll look great once she's in the car.

I went with wrinkle black - also going to do the same with the intake manifold. It's the reason I haven't installed it yet - it's not been touched up with any color. ;) I also have a stock spark plate cover that will compliment the valve cover perfectly. All in all it should look pretty nice!

Tomorrow I shall be installing the timing belt, engine mount, rechecking torque specs, and getting the intake manifold on. She's closer!






 
Unfortunately not. I had other priories (places and people) to see. She'll be there next year.

I have gotten the engine in - needless to say there has been progress but I am waiting to update for the clutch-install. Hopefully I will have that ordered tomorrow and the trans+engine fully mounted and ready to go. ;) She's very close. Lots of pictures coming soon everyone.

I am about to make a relocation which should make everything interesting.
 
Looks good, Kei! Keep updating. I need something to read over here. Being deployed is ungodly boring.
 
Hahah. Anything for you, Josh. :p

I have been stocking up on pictures and my next update should be very enjoyable. There has been a bit of a gap but with planning to relocate it's put a damper on things. :) About 1000 in parts have been ordered and so I am simply waiting for those to arrive now.
 
Update 5.0


Alright, so it's been a little bit. Getting ready to relocate meant that I had to put finances on hold for a little bit and let the Talon simmer on the back burner for a couple of weeks. Now that I have things handled I went ahead and bought 90% of the parts that I'm missing.

1a : I got bored and pulled all of the spare parts out of the trunk (DSMs make awesome storage sheds right?) When I got to the carpet it was in great condition.. just.. very very dirty.

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1b : After some time with Purple Power, a scrub brush, a tired arm, and a sprayer she turned out great!

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2 : Some more boredom led me to bust out the polishing compound and give my fuel rail some attention. There are places I need to hit with a dremel.. but is it really worth the effort? :)

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3 : I got sick of the interior being half black and half grey. Say hello to the black panels! I also got rid of the SAFC and got myself a stock center AC vent and got that matched in color as well.

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(Yes. The Glovebox was still Grey here.)


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4a : Most of my STM parts came in. I forgot the 7 Bolt starter plate. It will be here Monday. STM expedited the shipment for no cost!

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(Flywheel bolts, 2 replacement studs, OEM TOB, EGR Blockoff)




4b
: After some time checking, I decided to go with a specific clutch setup. This is an XTD assembly. I called and had them do this one - 2300# Pressure plate with a 6 Puck Sprung disk. I hate driving on an unsprung clutch. The way I see it - if it gives in under 6 months, alright. I plan on switching to a Southbend in February anyway. :)

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(Good packaging.)


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(The disk is sturdy. No looseness anywhere. Pads are in great condition.)


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(The pressure plate. Good packaging. Very hefty but not -heavy.)


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(Machine work looks good. No loose parts. Very nice condition. I'm happy.)


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(The TOB that came with it. Hefty. NO plastic. Won't be using - but nice.)


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(Here is a size comparison. The XTD TOB is a touch larger with a smaller contact ring. The OEM rotates smoother than the XTD, but the XTD is very smooth itself.)



That's pretty much it! I took Monday and Tuesday off, so I will be working to get everything together this weekend starting at 4:30ish PM tomorrow afternoon once I leave work. :) Not a WHOLE lot I can do until the Starter plate arrives, but I can get everything prepped.

More updates to come of the car itself and finally being assembled!​
 
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Good stuff, looking good! Did you spray those interior pieces? I'm wanting to do away with the greyout in my interior as well. Hopefully that XTD works out for you, ive heard less than complimentary things about the sprung version, im going with the unsprung version. Update with info after that clutch goes in on your build thread. I'll be doing the same when mine goes in. Will be interesting to see the comparison.
 
Good stuff, looking good! Did you spray those interior pieces? I'm wanting to do away with the greyout in my interior as well. Hopefully that XTD works out for you, ive heard less than complimentary things about the sprung version, im going with the unsprung version. Update with info after that clutch goes in on your build thread. I'll be doing the same when mine goes in. Will be interesting to see the comparison.

Yes, I sprayed the pieces. I actually did the following and it resulted in a very firm coat that doesn't flake or chip, isn't sticky, and looks/feels stock.

: 2cups of VHT Wrinkle Black
: 1/2 Cup of flat black
: 1/4 Gloss

Mixed that very well and sprayed it on. Love it.

As for the clutch, I did a lot of research and heard both good and bad. Most of the bad that I read were people abusing the clutch before it was broken in, improper installation, etc. Personally I've known a few people that have ran the stage 3 and been perfectly fine with it. As I don't expect to be launching this thing left and right and know how to properly break in a clutch - I hope it will hold up. She needs to -at least- last until February and with a 6 month warranty? Kay. The price allows for a test, so I'll get a good review of it up. One thing I'm anal about is the clutch assembly. The car -will- run a TMZ Southbend setup, but until I'm ready to complete the 2.3 bottom end, this will be a good test of another clutch that won't see over 350hp.
 
i am really hoping this car comes out better than corey's..

Corey R.? Lmao! I'll make sure it does. Engine and trans will be going in tomorrow and everyone will get to see the work done in full view.

I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or short-fall to me, or just a hit at Corey. :p
 
Im running the same clutch just unsprung. I love it. Every day I drive it, it feels better. I have just under 800 miles on it. Its very very smooth and is more friendly then my prior ACT 2600 with 6 puck sprung.

Also like how you stole my VHT wrinkle secret :p
 
Also like how you stole my VHT wrinkle secret :p

Haha. Oh yeah? You've done the same thing? I take it that it worked out well for you as well? How did you apply it?
 
Corey R.? Lmao! I'll make sure it does. Engine and trans will be going in tomorrow and everyone will get to see the work done in full view.

I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or short-fall to me, or just a hit at Corey. :p

Yes Corey R. hahah well his car is super clean, and the engine bay looks very stockish..LOL not to mention the low millage.

I honestly think his is one of a kind. Making it better than his will be hard but it can be done. :):D
 
Yes Corey R. hahah well his car is super clean, and the engine bay looks very stockish..LOL not to mention the low millage.

I honestly think his is one of a kind. Making it better than his will be hard but it can be done. :):D

Lol. Why thank you! >;) I know it can be done and I aim to make him cry. :p

To be honest, his car is my favorite 2g out there. If I could even come close I'd be happy - regardless if everything under the hood appears stock.
 
Love this build! Posts are very detailed and informative, I enjoy reading it. So, with that said, we NEED more updates! Haha. Car is super clean, I have a 95 same color, I love the color. Best of luck to you! :thumb:
 
Update 6.0


Alright, this one was frustrating, I didn't get a lot of pictures but I got enough to get the point across. I'm extremely irritated right now so excuse me if this update is a bit to the point.

1 : THIS bastard. This was all that held me up on getting this done Monday like it should have been. STM sent it out last week via 2 day shipping. Guess when it arrived? Today. My last day off.

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2 : The transmission mounting was fun. I had gotten everything together, the flywheel on, clutch assembly on, went to toss the trans on - nope. Wasn't having it. I kept thinking the flywheel was too big - but there was no way. It was the right one. 6 bolt, everything. Luckily I had an old flywheel lying around for reference...Guess what I had installed? A damn FWD flywheel. Needless to say the flywheel came back off, the clutch assembly back on, and then the trans. But oh wait! Something isn't right! .... maybe because there's a guide dowel still in the trans, hitting the guide dowel on the damn block. -.- So off it comes again, the dowel is removed, and finally the trans is bolted up.

3 : I had a war with getting the trans and engine dropped in. None of the mounts wanted to line up, everything was in the way - fed. After an hour of fighting it finally went in. Got everything bolted in place, removed the lift - VIOLA. She's home.

4 : Enjoy the pictures. I went ahead and installed the bumper, headlights, and front mount for your incomplete viewing pleasure.

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She looks a little vacant, but soon everything will be in place. Likely tomorrow after work.



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Look at her! She's gorgeous. Just need to get everything done and then polish her up. I'm so excited every time I look at this picture. :)


There are a few things I need to go back and do such as polish a few metal pieces, likely re-paint the valve cover as it's seen some scuffs, and overall just organize everything. I realized that I left the 6 bolt motor mount on the block, so I'll need to remove that before I mount the alternator/power steering.

All in all, it was productive today. I can't complain.​
 
I had you paint my COP with it. It was suppose to be our secret!

Haha. That and you shared the secret of keeping it warm or in front of a heating lamp to give it more texture. :)
 
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