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96 Talon AWD T-belt and turbo Questions

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Potenze

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Jan 21, 2012
Central point, Oregon
I found a 96 talon AWD on craigslist, the owner says that it has a "racing" 6 bolt swap in it with about 4000 miles on it. I have no way of proving or disproving that it is "Racing" which I believe that he means Stage 1. It is a 6 bolt, I figure this based on it having the camshaft positioning sensor on the side of the head.

The owner stopped driving it because he was losing oil and cause it developed a strange and loud noise. I went and checked on it, and TBH I was expecting a knock and was similarly expecting to walk away. But I am confidant if not 100% sure that its not a knock, it is distinctly coming from the timing belt side of the engine and it is a consistent sound not something that happens every-time a cylinder ignites. I also put a mechanics stethoscope against the front and back of the block with no alarming sounds present.

Q#1 ) The sound seems plastic-ee so I figure its the Timing belt tensioner but I'm not sure. I have to change the timing belt anyways because the timing belt has a groove in it from one of the bolts in the oil pan was put on the wrong hole. But I wanted to know what else I should look for while im in there.

Before this newbies WALL O' TEXT gets on everyone's nerves I will get to the turbo problem, or what I'm figuring is a turbo problem. I am not a turbo expert nor shall i pretend to be.

Q#2 ) The turbo is supposed to be an evo III 16g swap on the turbo it reads "TD05' I cant remember if it said TD05 "H" or not, nor do i know what the difference is.

There is a vacuum line on the intake that had oil seeping from it, I Think its rebuild time.

The owner didn't wish to run the car for too long due to the unknown sound, and not knowing what damage may happen. So I cant say how much or when smoke may appear.

Q#3 ) If i am to buy a rebuild kit, I'm wondering if there is a way to figure out if the turbo has the "flat back" or "super back" oil plate. and what the difference is between them.

Q#4 ) While under the assumption that its the turbo that is burning oil. what kit should i use to rebuild it? and what gaskets will i need? as in oil feed and return tube gaskets and all that.


Thanks in advance.
 
Thanks for the resource! but sadly i don't have any pictures and will not be able to get the serial numbers until i pick up the car and get it back to my place which will likely happen Monday.
 
If the turbo does say tdo5. It's not the stock 2g turbo. It's most likely a 14b, or 16g. The compressor wheel will reveal the answer. And the serial number will have a definate answer.
 
I can't speak much for the oil leak, I would have suggested oil pump but I have no idea if they make noise when going out.

My vehicle made a similar noise when my idler pulley was worn. It was absolutely awful, almost worse sounding than the radiator fan than was touching one of my intercooler clamps.

EDIT: I didn't fully read your post. If there is oil getting into a vacuum line, rings aren't always the case on our cars. The PCV valve might be bad, and parts stores ones just leak from the box. Check that first!
 
Well I got the car into the shop and tore off the timing cover and everything in that area just about, When i pulled the belt off I couldn't help but notice that the timing belt tensioner didn't move, in fact i can push it all the way down without difficulty is this normal? also it seems to only extend out about 1/2 -3/4 inch by itself.

I forgot to grab the serial numbers off the turbo, ill do that tomorrow. but anywho, the engine seems clean enough to have the claimed "4000" miles the previous owner suggested.

There is oil on the inside of the compressor housing on the turbo as well as a small amount of shaft play, I will pull it tomorrow to hopefully find out if its rebuild-able or not.

I'm already falling in love with my 1grand DSM. Soon ill start grabbing pics and maybe make a build log, titled "broken smile" since its front bumper is borked on the driver side.

Edit - Also found out its also got the LSD, so I'm pretty stoked!
 
1. It is a 6 bolt, I figure this based on it having the camshaft positioning sensor on the side of the head.

Any 6 bolt or 7 bolt can have the cam sensor on the side of the head, only 95/96 had it on the cam gears, before and after that they were on the head. That is no way to tell if its a 6 bolt or not, heads are interchangeable too between 6 and 7 bolt engines.

i can push it all the way down without difficulty is this normal? also it seems to only extend out about 1/2 -3/4 inch by itself.

You should not be able to push it in by hand at all, but they don't extend out very far.
 
awesome find either way dude. awd and 16g possibly, and a clean engine? nice, keep us posted man, curious to see if you seriously scored an awd witha 16g for a g dude! sounds like that tensioner is def gunna be your issue, at least part of it.
 
So I got the turbo out today, looks like we have a winner! Big EVO III 16g. And an added bonus of an xs power turbo header, without cracks.

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