$50 Paint Job [merged]

[rconlon67]

I am thinking of doing this to my van so i can sell it.
How much paint do you think i should get?
What kind of paint should i get?
I am thinking black paint.

Rustoleum -- RustOleum.com

I only used 1 qt.

 

[dylan702110988]

Get RustOleum Professional, u will use more than 1 quart if u want to cover the whole car (especially a van), i would buy the gallon and experiment a little till u get it right

Items needed:

RustOleum Professional paint
a bunch of 4-6in foam rollers
sand paper 600-1500 grit
a gallon of mineral spirits

DO NOT SHAKE THE PAINT! use the stirring sticks

u can get this at Home Depot or Lowe's, they even have rustoleum at Wal-mart

 

[always_broken]

how many sheets of each grit do I get?

 

[dylan702110988]

i usually go through 3 sheets of each when i wet sand...

600-800-1000-1200-1500

3 sheets of each

good luck and take ## time

 

[EDM95]

I usally would not paint a car this way but i am going to sell it.
I hope it turns out ok.

 

[always_broken]

White with a black top or red? Can't make up my mind...What would be a close match to oem white? Semi glossy or glossy?

 

[1gcrazy]

Probably gloss, I wouldn't go semi gloss you'll have a hard enough time getting it to shine.

 

[1gcrazy]

This shit is really starting to get on my nerves. After a week of sanding, buffing, waxing, and getting the feel of this body work, I keep sanding through the paint on the edges.

The one thing thats really bothering me is It looks like i'm sanding down to the next layer of paint and the layers are showing. I mean, i'm trying to take off as LITTLE as possible when wetsanding and even at 1000 grit, i'm still seeing some orange peel. After a little while The orange peel begins to disappear but the damn layers start showing through. It looks like i've got a little water spot on my paint. All this ####ing work and a little spot shows up. WTF!

Anyone know how to fix this?

 

[always_broken]

Is your paint too thin?

 

[dylan702110988]

your paint is too thick...it need to be almost like water...but you will still want the paint texture...you will also want it to dry for a good 20 hours(if ## using regular rustoleum...rustoleum < rustoleum professional)


im going to be re-doing this again ASAP...i stopped when it just got too cold out...also if you primer the car before you start to roll the paint on it comes out way way nicer... i started over my original paint and i could see the places i rolled, i premiered the whole car and it came out beautiful nice even coats and the color really popped more (black...well it shined more )

also are you sanding between each coat? i found it to look better if u put 2 full coats on before you start to wet sand

coat 1 - coat 2 - wet sand - coat 3 -wet sand - coat 4 - wet sand -coat 5 -wet sand and so on

 

[always_broken]

how long to dry if using professional rustoleum?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I just bought a 1g with a semi gloss rattle can job on it, body is in great shape though, so I got nothing to lose here as far as I'm concerned, .

I once was going to buy a truck, an 80's F150, and I drove it, sat in it, walked around it. Something was odd about the paint (grey), and I couldn't put my finger on it. Then I opened the tailgate and noticed the jambs were much darker inside. Looked close at the paint, roller job! I'm sure they did no wet sanding or anything on this truck, it had a very rough texture, but it was hidden until you looked right at it.

 

[dylan702110988]

how long to dry if using professional rustoleum?

I usually give it about 10-12 hours...over night

 

[always_broken]

Man that's a long time. This is my dd I'm attempting to do. Would you recommened taking a piece off at a time?

 

[dylan702110988]

you could do it piece by piece or do it on the days ## no busy...im just estimating a dried time off what i experience before...it could be 4 hours it could be 10, the only way to find out is to try for your self..

 

[rconlon67]

~I found that 6 hours minumum of dry time between coats worked for me. ~

this allowed me to get 2 coats done per day on the weekends.

 

[Sinner]

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

 

[eclipsh]

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

If you aren't going to bother reading the thread or looking at the evidence this does work and is reliable long term then perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself. As you stated, others have already said it won't work without trying it themselves. Feel free to pay over $1000 on your paint job and leave us to do ours for $50. After all, it isn't your car and no one is making you do this.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

Paint is pretty easy to strip actually. But I take it you're the type of guy who likes to leave thing's to the pro's. More power to you dude, but for some car's a 1-2k paintjob just doesn't make sense. And some car's won't be around in 10 years when the paint fails.

 

[phaseoneracing]

I would never do this. For the simple fact i paint cars for a living. but some of the pics you guys have up look actually real decent. i wouldnt do it...but good luck to you guys and congrats to the ones who've succeeded

 

[dylan702110988]

I'm sure other people have already stated this and I didn't read through the whole thread but this paint won't last, will cost you a fortune to repaint it later as it will all need to be stripped off before a real paintjob is applied and lastly is an insane amount of work compared to doing it right. If this is all you want go for it but it would be retarded to paint something you care about in this way.

You should read and look at the whole thread before you jump to conclusions about this working or not.

You will not have to strip the paint, the paint can be scuffed and can be painted over just as they would with a cheap Maaco "like" paint job.
Insane amount of work? if this INSANE amount of work bothers you then honestly you shouldn't be tuning your cars, especially a DSM, working on cars takes patience and INSANE amounts of work to get them in top shape.

Read the thread, and see for ## self

 

[EDM95]

I dont know about this sh!*. this guy where i work did this to his mustang and maybe a few days later the paint started to chip off like crazy. Maybe i better get some cheap car paint for my spray gun.

 

[EclipseTrbo420A]

My cars been painted like this for about 3 months now, but I haven't not buffed it yet...It's held up fine. And the original fellow who did this is on 7+ years with 2 cars like this. If you're not confident in your abilities then don't try it....This is not new, it's not a matter or whether it works or not, it's if your going to screw it up or not. If you don't think you can cut it, don't. Go grab a few extra hours at work and start digging in the couches

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I dont know about this sh!*. this guy wherw i work did this to his mustang and maybe a few days later the paint started to chip off like crazy. Maybe i better get some cheap car paint for my spray gun.

In any paint job "real" or with a roller, spray can, whatever, the majority of the work, price, cost, time, is in the prep.

If you just walk out to the driveway and start slinging paint all over your car, it will surely fall off/look stupid. Hell, for that matter, if you want a good paint job on the cheap, pull the healight's, tailight's, mirrors, door handles, and everything yourself, sand the car, do any bodywork youself, then drop it off, it will be a zillion times cheaper.

 

[Sinner]

Well seeing as how I own my own business building Hot Rods I believe I do know what I am talking about since I know a little something about paint also I will give my opinion, most people are using rustoleum for this process and it is just a alkyd based enamel which is the same as spray paint and anybody who paints for a living will know that it is not compatible with automotive urethanes so that means you will have to strip it in order to give the car a better paint job. Also cheap Macco paint jobs will do the same unless you use there higher system which is a urethane base. Alkyd based paints are softer and weaker than automotive paints and will sun fade much quicker, you can however wax the car and try to keep it covered and it will last longer. You can use this same method with automotive single stage paint but then you will up your price from $50 to somewhere around $200-$300. I do agree that some cars aren't worth getting a professional paint job and this works ok for a beater but it seems kind of crazy to put fourth so much effort in making a beater look decent but maybe you have more free time than me. Also just so people don't think that this method is something new, people have been doing this for decades but it has only become popular by the internet, I remember 15 years ago somebody telling me about how they used this method to paint a VW Beetle but they used automotive paint. If you want to do it go for it I don't care hell my first car I spray painted it and thought it turned out ok but after a few years I wished I didn't, but if you want to just make it look decent for a couple of years before sending it to the junkyard or selling it then go for it.