Resolved 420A - New DSM owner help, cranks but not start

[estuardowrld]

Hey everyone just got a 98 Eclipse GST yesterday for 1K and the reason why it was so cheap is because the car cranks but it won’t start. Fuel pump works and the injectors too, ignition coils and spark plugs are clean too but i don’t know what else it could be. Battery and starter are good too.

Also I have a crack on my manifold please help!

 

[estuardowrld]

What all did you finish fixing or testing today to finally get it running?

Fixed all vacuum leaks put clamps almost every where i could replaced the damn crankshaft sensor and she started immediately

Some of the squealing noise could be the PS pump damaging itself. Running it dry is not healthy. Fill the reservoir with some Mercon or Dextron ATF variation.

Wait so not power steering fluid? I use atf?

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Wait so not power steering fluid? I use atf?

Yes. All of that universal power steering fluid will damage the pump. Mercon V is what is recommended, but can be harder to find on shelves. I used a basic Mercon/Dexron variation and works great.

 

[CKOPOCT]

Wonderful! Glad that the CPS was the culprit and you got it running!

 

[chrisman287]

Good job! Tune up and fluids should get it running better.

 

[estuardowrld]

Bruh i’m so like mad turned on the car right and it runs then when i put it into gear it likes moves a bit and the stick moves too then as i’m driving the stick is kind of moving forward or backwards then i try to turn on the ac to see if it works and boom the car turns off and it doesn’t wanna turn on anymore i asked the guy several times if it worked and he told me yes at this point ima sell this POS and get a gsx idk if the idle could be cus of the missing exhaust? idk anymore i put in the obd reader and all the exhaust system is red

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[BLACK'98DSM]

The PO seemed convinced that it had a turbo . Is this a manual or auto trans? I'm assuming the gear shifter is what you're referring to as stick.

 

[estuardowrld]

The PO seemed convinced that it had a turbo . Is this a manual or auto trans? I'm assuming the gear shifter is what you're referring to as stick.

it’s an auto :/

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

it’s an auto :/

Check your engine and transmission mounts. If they're shot the drivetrain will rock back and forth causing pressure on your shifter cable. There could also be an internal issue with the transmission but mounts are a simple check to do first.

 

[estuardowrld]

Check your engine and transmission mounts. If they're shot the drivetrain will rock back and forth causing pressure on your shifter cable. There could also be an internal issue with the transmission but mounts are a simple check to do first.

gave it to my uncle to check your right the engine and transmission mounts are f***ed ac works and needs a new belt for the alternator power steering pump and ac

 

[chrisman287]

You should take videos of what it’s doing.

I wouldn’t mind seeing videos the PO sent you either.

 

[estuardowrld]

oh wow i can do that? how do i do that?

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

oh wow i can do that? how do i do that?

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[estuardowrld]

sorry first video of when i fixed her here’s the dudes video when it was running with him

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[estuardowrld]

sorry first video of when i fixed her here’s the dudes video when it was running with him

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another one

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[BLACK'98DSM]

Yea it sounds like it has a false turbo whistle in the exhaust. I bet if you look inside the pipe you'll see it. A lot of people had those back when I was in high school. But it was always easy to tell the difference between real turbo cars. There were also whistles you could add to the air intake tube but the sound was much quieter and there was a restriction factor.

 

[CKOPOCT]

So you are committed to fixing this car, yes? Frustrating as hell to think it's good to go, only to find out more stuff is wrong. The car has obviously been neglected. Maybe the guy you bought it from wasn't a liar and was just ignorant... but SOMEONE swapped trunks and advertised it as a GST; someone listed the Opel GT as a Corvette. That tells me there's likely more wrong with the car than what you've discovered already.

I assume your uncle has some wrench time under his belt and can help you go through the car and identify anything else that is wrong? Did you set a budget like I recommended? Do you have an idea of just how much you are willing to spend to get it reliably on the road and at what dollar point you consider to be too much? Are you okay with the car costing more than it is worth on the open market by the time you've paid for everything?

If you keep going with the car you'll learn a hell of a lot, and you can honestly say you brought it back from the brink of crusherland. And we'll be here and continue to give advice and guidance.

 

[estuardowrld]

So you are committed to fixing this car, yes? Frustrating as hell to think it's good to go, only to find out more stuff is wrong. The car has obviously been neglected. Maybe the guy you bought it from wasn't a liar and was just ignorant... but SOMEONE swapped trunks and advertised it as a GST; someone listed the Opal GT as a Corvette. That tells me there's likely more wrong with the car than what you've discovered already.

I assume your uncle has some wrench time under his belt and can help you go through the car and identify anything else that is wrong? Did you set a budget like I recommended? Do you have an idea of just how much you are willing to spend to get it reliably on the road and at what dollar point you consider to be too much? Are you okay with the car costing more than it is worth on the open market by the time you've paid for everything?

If you keep going with the car you'll learn a hell of a lot, and you can honestly say you brought it back from the brink of crusherland. And we'll be here and continue to give advice and guidance.

No budget yet i’m gonna bring this car back just because the previous owner didn’t take care of it doesn’t mean it deserves the scrapyard i’m gonna bring her back even if it’s a 420a i’ll daily it my uncle has been a mechanic for god knows how long but he’s had a saleen mustang with a fat ass turbo on it but some drunk driver hit it and he yes he’s gonna help me and i want to learn how to work on cars i’ll post a video tmr showing you guys how wrecked this car is

 

[CKOPOCT]

Happy to help how we can. Could you help us out though... could you please use punctuation in your posts? Makes it much easier to read, and since it would seem you're likely going to be seeking advice and help on this forum for a while, it'd be appreciated.

 

[estuardowrld]

I am so sorry. Will do from now on, English isn’t my first language. But thank all of you guys so much i really do appreciate it a lot. Just have a couple of questions what trans fluid do i use? P.S I also work at autozone so i can get some good discounts.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

I am so sorry. Will do from now on, English isn’t my first language. But thank all of you guys so much i really do appreciate it a lot. Just have a couple of questions what trans fluid do i use? P.S I also work at autozone so i can get some good discounts.

I tried digging around in my FSM and couldn't find much on the specs. Amsoil says it has a total capacity of 9.1 quarts and uses ATF SP-III or SP-4 fluid. I'm not sure if that's accurate though since the turbo models only have a total capacity of 7.1 quarts.

 

[estuardowrld]

here’s the current state of it as you can see she kinda struggles to crank up

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[BLACK'98DSM]

Is the CEL on?
(check engine light)

Seems like it may be misfiring but hard to say with the info I have, any present codes should help out.

 

[estuardowrld]

nope no check engine light or codes when i out the obd reader the cat o2 sensor turns red

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Did you get the engine/trans mounts replaced yet or are they still trashed?

 

[estuardowrld]

i ordered them waiting for them to arrive idk what else it could be. I really have to step on the throttle for it to kick. I check the plugs and they were good could be the wires? or injectors?