272 cams

[98gsxtuner]

Just wanted to get some thoughts on 272 cams either hks or brian cower how much low end tourqe do you loose and hi rpm horse power does it crawl off the line and does it make a significant difference in the hp increase i could i really use some help im getting my car ready this summer and am looking to get this dun soon, so any help would be very much appreciated.

 

[UGOT8UP]

I run BC272 in mine. Idle is a little choppy but not horiable, you wont notice any low end loss due to the turbo lag you would normaly have, after boost comes up it pull's harder than stock just my personal experiance with them.

 

[kris_stewart10]

well i am gonna run hks 272s when i get the munnies up

 

[UGOT8UP]

What kind of HP #'s are you trying to make?the money your spending on the cam's might be better spent on something else if you dont plan on going wild, say a bigger turbo

 

[98gsxtuner]

well right now i have a big 16g but i need to get me sum arp head studs and the head gasket im runnin 20psi boost but im going to the track this summer and want to get sum hardcore power out and a buddy of mine said the cams will add 20 hp hi end. and do you need to adjust the cam sensor when you put them in or is it slap them in and go.

 

[98gsxtuner]

what stage cams are you runnin UGOT8UP?

 

[Boost92awd]

what stage cams are you runnin UGOT8UP?

Crower 272's, look at his profile.

 

[UGOT8UP]

There are some write up's on this search, cam install. Just remember to make sure that your timing gear's do not slip a tooth when you got them lose, use a few zip ties to hold the belt to the gear's

 

[98gsxtuner]

aight thanks for the help

 

[cjridert1]

Maybe look into dks? Im running crowers (not BC), ditto for above. The car sucks below 3500 anyhow, dont know if there is much of a difference from bad to slightly worse. Up top the car shreds much better. Put them in man

 

[98gsxtuner]

hey i just wanted to tell all you guys thanks for the advice it would be kewl if we could all meet up sumday and run at a track.

 

[MY1GDSM]

That may be a litle hard being that nobody that posted even lives in the same State. ...

 

[98gsxtuner]

i kno this i just said it would be kewl. and will i have to get new retainers and springs?

 

[Boost92awd]

It all depends on what grind you buy and what brand you buy. Just check out the vendors on this site. It will tell you if they are needed for the brand and type your looking for.

My BC cams dont require upgraded springs or retainers. It also depends on how high you plan on reving your motor.

 

[UGOT8UP]

Maybe look into dks? Im running crowers (not BC), ditto for above. The car sucks below 3500 anyhow, dont know if there is much of a difference from bad to slightly worse. Up top the car shreds much better. Put them in man

BC=Brian Crower, if you say that you are running crower's than look at your cam card or the box they came in, Brian Crower BC, is Crower

 

[UGOT8UP]

i kno this i just said it would be kewl. and will i have to get new retainers and springs?

When I done my head I replaced everything, new +1mm valves, spring's and retainer's and I gasket matched the intake and exaust + cleaned up the runner's a tad.

It's up to you on how far you want to go with it

 

[JusMX141]

Brian Crower is a seperate cam company from Crower.

BrianCrower.com | BC Brian Crower Inc.
Crower.com | Crower Cams & Equipment Co, Inc.

I don't recommend 272's as a good choice for a street car with a 16G. Unless you do lots of wide-open driving, the only thing you'll notice is a loss of torque and ability to build boost easily. You may also notice more boost drop-off at redline with more aggressive cams. There are other things you can buy with the $300+ you'd spend on cams that would net a bigger HP gain.

O.P.- Your profile says 850's tuned with an AFC.....how's that working out for you?

 

[95GSXCO]

If you want the lower end power stick with stock or 264's. I have BC 272 and I had a evo16g with them and I didn't see any diff. Other then lumpy idle and they do scream as so as the boost hit. As far as drag racing I wouldn't worry about low end because you should be in the power band of the cams from the launch. But just like UGOT8UP said your money might be better spent elsewhere

 

[thewombis]

yes, BC cams are cheap, but are also some of the worst performing cams on the market. Yes, they do show gains, but compared to other cams such as FP grinds, HKS, Kelfords, they are terrible. (hence why they are $300)
They are popular, becuase they are cheap!

If your heart is stuck on the HKS cams, check out the Kelfords, they have an even better (in my opinion) curve than he HKS grinds. They have a very nice, smooth power band gain across the board, and can be had for about $560, which is still less then HKS.

 

[95GSXCO]

yes, BC cams are cheap, but are also some of the worst performing cams on the market. Yes, they do show gains, but compared to other cams such as FP grinds, HKS, Kelfords, they are terrible. (hence why they are $300)
They are popular, becuase they are cheap!

If your heart is stuck on the HKS cams, check out the Kelfords, they have an even better (in my opinion) curve than he HKS grinds. They have a very nice, smooth power band gain across the board, and can be had for about $560, which is still less then HKS.

And see I can't understand why someone would spend $500-$600 on cams when they have a 16g and AFC. I would rather spend that money on link or EMS alot more power will be made with either one. Also more fun then just slapping in cams and being done with it.

 

[thewombis]

And see I can't understand why someone would spend $500-$600 on cams when they have a 16g and AFC. I would rather spend that money on link or EMS alot more power will be made with either one. Also more fun then just slapping in cams and being done with it.

Agreed, I would spend cash on a bigger turbo, and link before getting cams for a motor with a 16g. Unfortunately I already have both! so I am in need for those Kelfords!

 

[Kyle97turbo]

I'm in the same situation and I'm torn between the bc 272's and comp 101100's. I also saw that your from bloomfield. Ever come down around norfolk? I'm originally from there and every summer we have the huge car show/cruise and a bunch of us usually go out racing after the cruise. It's fun stuff you should show up it would be nice to have another dsm around.

 

[UGOT8UP]

Brian Crower is a seperate cam company from Crower.

BrianCrower.com | BC Brian Crower Inc.
Crower.com | Crower Cams & Equipment Co, Inc.

I don't recommend 272's as a good choice for a street car with a 16G. Unless you do lots of wide-open driving, the only thing you'll notice is a loss of torque and ability to build boost easily. You may also notice more boost drop-off at redline with more aggressive cams. There are other things you can buy with the $300+ you'd spend on cams that would net a bigger HP gain.

O.P.- Your profile says 850's tuned with an AFC.....how's that working out for you?

Thank's for the correction Justin.

What make's the BC cam's so crappy? Looking at the spec sheet they have more of a aggressive profile than the other cam's in it's range (lift, avg duration, a nice exaust overlap).....Does that make it crappy, or is it the price that makes them crappy?

 

[crimsondragon]

Thank's for the correction Justin.

What make's the BC cam's so crappy? Looking at the spec sheet they have more of a aggressive profile than the other cam's in it's range (lift, avg duration, a nice exaust overlap).....Does that make it crappy, or is it the price that makes them crappy?

They're not crappy to say. They actually are some of the nicest cams out there. The problem is you need to degree them in to gain the most out of them. That requires a bit of math and adjustable cam gears to figure out.

 

[UGOT8UP]

They're not crappy to say. They actually are some of the nicest cams out there. The problem is you need to degree them in to gain the most out of them. That requires a bit of math and adjustable cam gears to figure out.

WTF Call me weird but Ive alway's degred all of my cam's......So with the higher price cam's all you have to do is bolt them on with no degreeing to get good result's, and with the BC you have to degree them? How are you setting your's up...retard exaust,,advance intake,,both?