22nd ANNUAL DSM/EVO/GTR SHOOTOUT

[david buschur]

^^^Wrong attitude.^^^ No cage=less safe.

I hate how you think! haha

 

[david buschur]

I hope you guys are looking at the new rules. It is nearly impossible to have the wrong tires now. NO slicks and no DOT with just rain grooves, that's about it.

 

[randaddydsm]

Getting the feeling quick 32 classes are going to be popular. Anything goes. Any tire any turbo no mirrors and interior. Opens up the class a lil bit.

 

[rEclipserGST]

No FWD Dyno day again

 

[92AWDHX40]

Exctited more this year.

 

[jed344]

Excited to return last year was a blast hope it's even better this year. Only 10hr drive for me accept will be driving the dsm Insted of trailering it like last year:/

 

[david buschur]

No FWD Dyno day again

Actually there's been a change all together to the Dyno, it's just a dyno day now, no trophies awarded after the mess we had this last year.

 

[Fuel Injector Clinic]

We can't wait for this event!
We look forward to it every year, and signed up to return as a sponsor the Quick 32 for 2014 as soon as the 2013 event was over.
Now, how many 7 second passes will we see out there?

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

Damn it!!! Is it august yet?

 

[turbojunkie69]

David. other than the 16g, and hta68, what other turbos are considered stock appearing for the DSM 1G and 2G ? I assume from talk last year and i believe read, you use a stock EVO turbo on any dsm also. thanx

B

 

[david buschur]

David. other than the 16g, and hta68, what other turbos are considered stock appearing for the DSM 1G and 2G ? I assume from talk last year and i believe read, you use a stock EVO turbo on any dsm also. thanx

B

This is what the rules say in the first post of this page:

"The turbo on your 1g/2g DSM/EVO MUST appear to be a stock turbo for ANY 1G, 2G DSM or EVO"

 

[Archer Fabrications]

So FP black yourself guys

David i have a question.

FP has been offering the 3794 in an evo compressor cover 86mm i believe same as the black's would this be considered stock appearing? Or does the t3 and vband outlet throw that out the window.

Hey it looks stock from the front

 

[turbojunkie69]

This is what the rules say in the first post of this page:

"The turbo on your 1g/2g DSM/EVO MUST appear to be a stock turbo for ANY 1G, 2G DSM or EVO"

thank you for elaborating on that. that was very helpful

 

[SonySlave]

thank you for elaborating on that. that was very helpful

Billy, Shane from the other thread did a pretty good job elaborating. Based on that response from Dave, you'll just have to figure it out.

Here is what Shane posted:

"But the turbo's should be pretty clear. Any stock appearing 1g dsm (see tdo5h compressor housing and mitsu flange hotside), 2g dsm (pretty much limited to the T-25 or T-28), or Evo stock appearing (so many options FP white, green, red, black, map ef series, etc.). The trick with the evo stock appearing turbo's is that you cannot use their dsm "same named" counterparts as they are not the same thing (ie. can't use DSM fp green, can use Evo FP green). Any of those turbos can be used on any platform, meaning you could use an evo stock appearing turbo on your dsm, if you want to go through the work of doing it.

This opens it up to some crazy custom turbo's obviously , such as the F3SA. As long as you use a TDO5H compressor housing, you can machine it to accept whatever compressor wheel you want that will still fit. With the FP 8cm hotside available, there are much larger turbine wheels that can be accepted as well."

 

[SBstar]

Thanks for copying that over Mike. We went through a lot of questions on the class in the past and I'm sure David is just tired of answering the same questions which explains his short reply.

It would be nice to see a payout/sponsor for the class though.

 

[spin1r6]

If the class had more than 5-6 cars I feel like there would be no problem getting a payout. Most stock turbo guys choose not to compete because the winning times are unobtainable by the avg stock turbo street car and the avg race car doesnt use a stock appearing turbo. Its certainly a tough class to make rules for. With stock appearing no matter what the rules are there will be guys complaining. At the end of the day it takes people that want to race win or lose to fill the class. Its ok to go out and run 13's if your having fun doing it, your just not going to win.

 

[SBstar]

If the class had more than 5-6 cars I feel like there would be no problem getting a payout. Most stock turbo guys choose not to compete because the winning times are unobtainable by the avg stock turbo street car and the avg race car doesnt use a stock appearing turbo. Its certainly a tough class to make rules for. With stock appearing no matter what the rules are there will be guys complaining. At the end of the day it takes people that want to race win or lose to fill the class. Its ok to go out and run 13's if your having fun doing it, your just not going to win.

You have a point, we had a good turnout the first year the rules were changed (the year after the original stock appearing class died due to lack of entries). The next year after the little auto car dominated it seemed like everyone bowed out or moved on. The availability of 16g's diminishing didn't help anything either. The popularity of the little turbo racecar had a nice little heyday but seems to be waning.

 

[turbojunkie69]

Billy, Shane from the other thread did a pretty good job elaborating. Based on that response from Dave, you'll just have to figure it out.

Here is what Shane posted:

"But the turbo's should be pretty clear. Any stock appearing 1g dsm (see tdo5h compressor housing and mitsu flange hotside), 2g dsm (pretty much limited to the T-25 or T-28), or Evo stock appearing (so many options FP white, green, red, black, map ef series, etc.). The trick with the evo stock appearing turbo's is that you cannot use their dsm "same named" counterparts as they are not the same thing (ie. can't use DSM fp green, can use Evo FP green). Any of those turbos can be used on any platform, meaning you could use an evo stock appearing turbo on your dsm, if you want to go through the work of doing it.

This opens it up to some crazy custom turbo's obviously , such as the F3SA. As long as you use a TDO5H compressor housing, you can machine it to accept whatever compressor wheel you want that will still fit. With the FP 8cm hotside available, there are much larger turbine wheels that can be accepted as well."

thanx mike. pretty much what I looking for. I missed that post by Shane.

 

[david buschur]

I can't explain the rules any better than my sentence does.

As for class sponsorship. This is a bastard class made for the racers by the racers request. There are no sponsors yet that are interested in sponsoring it and without a sponsor it will remain a trophy only.

 

[miliman13]

Never been to the shoot out, this year will be my first! so the shoot out takes place at the summit race track correct (1300 Ohio 18 Norwalk, OH 44857). ?
tickets can be purchased there at the door ?
And is it true, there will be a rally event ?

also, has the shoot out always been in the same location ? has it always been sponsored by BuschurRacing ?

 

[david buschur]

Never been to the shoot out, this year will be my first! so the shoot out takes place at the summit race track correct (1300 Ohio 18 Norwalk, OH 44857). ?
tickets can be purchased there at the door ?
And is it true, there will be a rally event ?

also, has the shoot out always been in the same location ? has it always been sponsored by BuschurRacing ?

Yes, it is at Summit Motorsports park. Yes the tickets are purchased at the gate. Hell no there is no rally event, there is an autocross though.

The shootout has been at Summit Motorsports Park for 22 years now. Yes, the race belongs to Buschur Racing and always has.

 

[miliman13]

thanks for the info. will autox be held in the same spot, same track ?
[ame=http://youtu.be/3TUPCQpYdHA]Thomas Dorris @ the 2011 DSM / EVO Shootout - AutoX - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

will autox be held in the same spot, same track ?

Yes!

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

thanks for the info. will autox be held in the same spot, same track ?
Thomas Dorris @ the 2011 DSM / EVO Shootout - AutoX - YouTube

Last two years they had it in the parking lot and not the big rectangle with cones on it.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZPtZLR2oTc[/ame]

 

[david buschur]

Yes, same spot as the last two years for the autocross.

Be sure and read the updated rules, the classes are simpler, less classes and DOT tires only with a tread style limit only.